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Short Story Request (or what are your favorite short stories?)

 
  

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Nobody's girl
09:45 / 18.06.04
The Wireless Set by George MacKay Brown is a story I recently studied in English class. It has clear themes, well developed characters and as a result has been a staple of Scots English classes for some time.

Wicked Stepmother's Lament By Sara Maitland is an excellent humourous retelling of Cinderella.
 
 
Sir Real
12:10 / 18.06.04
Zora Neal Hurston would be a wonderful choice, I think. Both for short stories (Spunk, or the complete collection) and her anthropological stuidies (Mules and Men, The Sanctified Church, Every Tongue got to Confess). Great stuff.
 
 
Giant anteater
12:35 / 18.06.04
They may not thank you, but Chekhov's short stories can be quite beautiful. The Kiss, for one. Also, Gogol's Diary of a Madman (or the Overcoat)and Guy de Maupassant (particularly The Horla) would make for interesting discussions. If that seems a bit too worthy, HG Wells has some cracking tales. I'd also second Dahl and King.
 
 
mkt
14:22 / 18.06.04
Upping the female quotient, how about Katherine Mansfield? A good collection of her short stories should include the related pieces Prelude and At The Bay, both of which are excellent for examining the idea of female complicity with or resistance to patriarchal society, and also consider the possibility of same-sex desire.
Also, Bliss is a superb short piece that is likely to raise ideas around same-sex desire, stream of conciousness narratives and Imagism.
 
 
Scrubb is on a downward spiral
09:57 / 22.06.04
Gah, I'm being a foolish monkey. You want more women? Howsabout anything by Lorrie Moore; she's got a few short story collections out, including Birds of America and Like Life. Really elegant, pared-down writing.
 
 
HCE
23:19 / 22.06.04
Edgar Allen Poe, Ambrose Bierce, Oscar Wilde, O. Henry, Paul Bowles. Take your pick, they haven't written anything not worth reading to my knowledge.

I urge you to throw in at least one Chekov since his work has never been improved upon.

Here are some that are available online:
http://www.angeltowns.com/members/shortstories/index.html

Includes some Poe, Frank Stockton's "The Lady or the Tiger", Mark Twain, Jos. Conrad, Damon Runyon, loads of others.
 
 
_Boboss
11:55 / 23.06.04
raymond carver
another vote for harlan ellison
and jlb

but you've surely got the first and third on the syllabus already

and m r james ('oh whistle and i'll come to you my lad' is probably the most famous, and has a shitscarey film of it made for the benefit of your lazier studes)
 
 
Tamayyurt
18:00 / 06.07.04
Two more request for people with better web-fu than me.

1) I need an essay that explains Freud's theories.

2) Another essay that explains what "post modern" means in Lit.

These need to be pretty clear and understandable to dense high school children.

Thanks, you guys have been a huge help.
 
 
grant
20:16 / 06.07.04
First, you gotta spill what your final reading list wound up being.
 
 
Tamayyurt
00:51 / 07.07.04
Oh okay, I don't have the syllabus with me now, but I'll post the list tomorrow.
 
 
Tamayyurt
18:01 / 13.07.04
"Harrison Bergeron"
"I Hope I Shall Soon Arrive"
"Mr Loveday's Little Outing"
"Geory Porgy"
"The Secret Miracle"
"Light is Like Water"
"Let me Count the Times"
"Me and Miss Mandible"
"Sredni Vashtar"
"Open Window"
"A Good Man is Hard to Find"

That's the order we're reading them in.

Oh, and I need that article/website on Freud
and the postmodern world. It's really important. I
need the Freud for Wednesday of next week.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
21:29 / 13.07.04
Impulsivelad, I found both Introducing Freud and Introducing Postmodernism (books, rather than articles) to be very useful as, well, introductions to both of them. Both had useful pointers for further reading (I thought), and neither of them were difficult as introductions.

The Freud does have a picture of a penis in clerical dress though, which distressed many of my friends who had hitherto considered themselves pretty impervious to shock.
 
 
Tamayyurt
22:36 / 13.07.04
Thanks, man, I really do need something shorter though. What about a website I can point them to?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
16:01 / 14.07.04
I think you're asking for an essay that doesn't exist in any useful form but here's my attempt to help. You can try these sites, they're all I can find:

General Introduction to Psychoanalysis

Psychoanalysis and Literature

Psychoanalytic Introduction

Sigmund Freud

I've scoured Google and that's everything I could find and some of it's pretty unclear- written for those crazy analysts. Seriously though I don't think you're going to find anything.
 
 
grant
17:42 / 14.07.04
Just in case it's not clear from the glances at the Amazon pages, those "Introducing..." books are comics. And very good ones, for what they do. I think they're now being marketed as "...for Beginners" books.
They're easy reads and should be available in some library near you.

FREUD:
You might find this a useful outline for Freud, but it's a bit dense and dry. This "freudfile" collection of abstracts and essays might be better. (But the comics are *so* good!)

This page is short and simple enough for high schoolers (I think it was written by one), although the pictures aren't working.

And this goofy game on PBS's page will probably get some students interested in Freud's basics.



POSTMODERNITY:
This overview is part of a great, accessible site covering postmodern thought. It does have an entry on Freud in the "critics" listing, which links to this essay on Freud, feminism and dreams.

You might also find the first chapter of Tom Wolfe's From Bauhaus to Our House useful for explaining post-modernism, I think, although it's been a while since I read that book. As a whole, it's great, but longer than what you need.

If this was written slightly better it'd be exactly what you need.
You can also excerpt some of the sections of this essay pretty simply.

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So, uh, I recognize many of the titles in your list, but not all. Who wrote what? How are the readers liking them?
 
 
Tamayyurt
01:27 / 15.07.04
Thanks guys, you've been a big help.
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:59 / 01.08.04
Okay, we're done reading the stories and this is where I tell you what the class thought. First of all let me say that this group was particularly dull and conservative. They hated anything weird. Let me put my class into perspective. These are all middle class 18-19 year-olds, in a major city (Miami), just out of High School. They got into college because they can take tests but their reading and writing skills are utter crap. Now on to the reviews:

"Harrison Bergeron"
"I Hope I Shall Soon Arrive"
"Me and Miss Mandible"


They hated all of these. I mean, they didn't understand any of them and when I explained what was going on the next day in class they reacted like, "That's stupid" or “That could never happen”. These kids detest sci-fi in a big way. We even got into Will Smith's I, Robot and the few kids that'd seen it said it was "too futuristic" for them. They couldn't conceive of a future that wasn't exactly like how it is now. They have no foresight or imagination at all.

"Mr Loveday's Little Outing"
"A Good Man is Hard to Find"


These they loved. If there's one thing these kids know and understand is psychos and murder. The next day in class they raved about how cool these stories where and how they wanted to keep reading.

"The Secret Miracle"
"Light is Like Water"


Magic Realism was completely lost on this class. They couldn't understand how weird stuff could happen in a seeming realistic story. They often thought the magical elements ruined the story completely and, what really scared me (while discussing "The Secret Miracle"), was that a quarter of the class didn't know why the Germans were going to kill the Jewish fellow. They had only a vague sense of what Nazis were and did. So this class session quickly turned into a history lesson and sadly enough I was met with incredulous looks, like they really weren't buying what I was saying. (Of course, this is the same group that 4 weeks ago told me that they had thought aids had already been cured in the 90's, which is why you don't hear about it on TV anymore.)

"Let me Count the Times"

You'd think a story about masturbation and cumming all over someone's face would go over well in a class of 19-year-olds, but like I mentioned these kids are extremely conservative and most of them couldn't read past the first few pages. Those that did were appalled. All of them denied ever having masturbated in their entire lives and a few of them asked me if I could get in trouble for teaching this story in college. I was like, "you're in for a rude awaking, my little friends!"

"Sredni Vashtar"
"Open Window"


The only reason these stories were liked was because they were short. But most of them didn't understand how the kid’s ferret-god could kill the mean guardian (again Magic Realism is none too big with them) and the rest of the class thought the boy was utterly evil and should die a horrible death at the hands of Mr. Loveday. “Open Window” was met with shrugs and blank stares. They didn't even chuckle.

SO, I want to thank everyone who suggested these stories as they introduced these dense children to some weird shit, which made for interesting classroom discussions. Hopefully I put some strange ideas in their heads and started a growth process that'll continue through their college days and beyond.

But some how I doubt it.
 
 
FinderWolf
12:54 / 02.08.04
Wow.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with this. Kids who don't know who the Nazis were and thought AIDS was cured in the 90s....*shudder* You did your best!
 
 
Lord Morgue
13:51 / 02.08.04
Oh, shit, shit, shit.
I think you need to administer 10cc of intravenous Harlan Ellison and stand back. Only the literary equivalent of freebasing antimatter could shock these borgouis meatpuppets out of their coma.
Ugh, and I mean UGH! If you run this curriculum again, maybe we could dig up something stronger, Burroughs or Brite or Farmer. Or just run electrodes to their nutsacks and scream WAKE THE FUCK UP!
Fucking dot.com babies- more information at their fingertips than any previous generation, and they're the biggest bunch of retards since the dark ages. Is 19 years too late for an abortion?
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:26 / 02.08.04
Actually, I was going to do Deathbird but time didn't permit and I already had too much sci-fi and wanted them to sample other stuff. Still, I have a feeling if I would've tried anything too drastic they would've become defensive.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
14:39 / 02.08.04
If there's one thing these kids know and understand is psychos and murder

Which is funny, because as far as i remember much of Mr Loveday concerns an upper class girl called Angela. Sorry your class weren't that responsive to anything at all, it looked like a good mix of stories so it's a shame it was lost on them.

Are you doing anything similar next year, so you might get a chance to teach them to a more interested class?
 
 
Tamayyurt
15:34 / 02.08.04
Maybe, I don't know.
 
 
Jawsus-son Starship
15:48 / 18.07.07
When it comes to fiction I've decided that anything the size of a novella and smaller will generally be better than anything else. I decided this reading Stephen King's books of short stories, reasoning that if an author I'd normaly have nothing to do with (bar Misery, which I enjoyed greatly) can twist some wonderful ideas out of himself, and shock more than 1000 pages of The Stand ever could, then maybe this is the perfect form of literature.

To stay with The Stand for a moment, before the book turned into "it's God vs. The Devil!", so Part 1 and a bit of Part 2, this book was wonderful too. Hideous, yet wonderful. The descriptions of the fall of society, army turned on army in a heady dance of destruction, crushed into a hundred or so pages in total (editing out the faff) would have made a terrifying little novella.

So I've decided to mainly focus on the short story for the next month or so, and so far this has been great, having given me time to read more authors work then usual. Can we get this thread back up, I'd really like is some recomendations and discussions. I'm gonna dig through the distopyian short-stories thread and look for something else as well.
 
 
Dusto
22:18 / 19.07.07
My favorite short story is probably "Critique de la vie Quotidenne," by Donald Barthelme.

That said, I think I'm the opposite of you when it comes to taste. I'm rarely impressed with a good short story anywhere near as much as I'm impressed with a good novel. I think it tends more to come down to which form an author is more suited to, though. Stephen King probably does his best work in short story form, but Thomas Pynchon does his best work in mega-novel form. Barthelme is probably my favorite short story writer, but three out of his four novels are pretty bad. orges was a great short story writer who never wrote novels. Nabokov wrote great novels, but I've only been impressed by a few of his short stories.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
12:30 / 23.07.07
Has anyone suggested M.R. James yet? Despite being the greatest ghost story writer ever, wrote very good short stories.
 
 
Chew On Fat
03:33 / 25.07.07
Shiver-Meister MR James was the very first suggestion way back in the day.

The Irish master of the short story is thought to be Frank O'Conner and any of his short stories are worth a look, usually humane little stories of the inner lives of small-town folk, often with a nice line in gentle humour. I used to read his tales on the bus, but would have to put it down between stories just to let it sink in. He had a very good grasp of what makes us tick.

'Guests of the Nation' is often cited as his masterpiece. It's set in 20's Ireland during the 'War of Independence' as its come to be known. Its about a group of IRA men who are put in charge of two English soldiers who are being held hostage in the hope of effecting the release of prisoners held by the British, and shows a sort of friendship growing between the men.

The first half of 'The Crying Game' definitely drew a lot of elements from it, although there's no gender-bending in O'Conners tale :-) Sadly, as a study of occupation, resistence and the moral quagmire ensuing from that, its all too topical.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
16:25 / 09.08.07
William Trevor really does live up to his press. Any of the stories are worth reading.

Heinrich Boll is proving surprisingly muscular and simultaneously moving - especially "Stranger, bear word to the Spartans we ..."
 
 
Tsuga
01:12 / 11.08.07
I would definitely agree about William Trevor. His stories are often dark, but fantastic character studies and situational drama that just seem so real. One of my favorite short story writers, up there with Maugham and O'Connor, really.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
17:47 / 09.11.08
Adding to the female short story writers list:

Patricia Duncker (of Hallucinating Foucault fame) has written a collection of seven called "Seven Tales of Sex and Death" which is rather good - includes some Greek-myth reference, some near-future sci-fi, some allegory and so on ... quite a nice mixed bag.

Looking along my short story bookshelf I also see Anita Desai, Angela Carter and Beryl Bainbridge. Not to forget Patricia Highsmith (I'm pretty sure she writes shorts), Alice Munro and Helen Simpson.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:32 / 09.11.08
Highsmith does (did?) indeed write short fiction -- I have a collection of hers somewhere amid my piles. Angela Carter is, of course, the Goddess of Short Fiction.
 
 
ghadis
10:06 / 18.11.08
'Adding to the female short story writers list:'

Some of my favourite short stories recently have been written by Elisabeth Bowen, Mary Butts and Katherine Mansfield. All fantastic short story writers although i havn't read much of their longer works apart from Butt's ' Armed with Madness' which is great and Bowen's novella 'A World of Love' which i'm convinced is the greatest ghost story ever written.

Oh and Shirley Jacksons shorts also.
 
 
nyarlathotep's shoe horn
19:41 / 24.12.08
Born with a Tooth by Joseph Bowen.

I just finished reading the 13 stories.

His narrative is based in one of several communities of Cree (usually) in the remote North of Canada. He manages to encapsulate this juxtaposition of ancient and modern with a strong, sympathetic perspective.

His writing style is witty. He just won the Giller Prize for his second novel, and I get the feeling he may open the doors for the growing number of first nations authors.

Eden Robinson's Traplines

I haven't read it yet, however, a friend of mine who is teaching it highly recommends it. It's an award-winning collection of short stories from an Inuit perspective. I believe they tend to the darker side of things.

I intend to get it after these holidays, so I'll check back in with a report then.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
20:05 / 24.12.08
I enjoyed Traplines, although it's pretty bleak.
 
  

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