BARBELITH underground
 

Subcultural engagement for the 21st Century...
Barbelith is a new kind of community (find out more)...
You can login or register.


Beginners guide to meditation

 
 
Opps!!
20:34 / 07.06.04
i am interested in the art of meditation but dont know where to start - in relation to books, types of..., how to go about it, hints, tips, or whatever - so i though i would turn to those lovely knowledgable people who inhabit these shores.
 
 
EvskiG
03:07 / 08.06.04
A useful introductory book is Ram Dass's "Journey of Awakening."

Lots of basic information about a variety of different meditation techniques written in a gentle, accessible, non-sectarian style. Easy to find, too.
 
 
the cat's iao
06:32 / 08.06.04
It isn't difficult to meditate. What is difficult is having the discipline to do it regularly, and not give up. The easiest meditation is to count your breathing. Get in a comfortable position: sitting in a chair, lying down, or cross legged or whatever you feel suits you best. The important thing is to pick a position that you can feel relaxed in, but yet not fall asleep (a hazard of a lying position...). Now, relax your body and focus your attention on your breath. Try to slow your breathing down, but inhale and exhale in a rhythm--breath in 0ne, two, three, four, (now you can pause for two counts, or cycle straight to exhale--it is up to you), breath out One, two, three, four (again, pause for two counts or not--up to you, but if you paused before, it is best to pause again, for the sake of rhythm!). Now, simply do this for ten minutes or so (as you do it more try to go for twenty or thirty minutes). That's it!

However, you'll note that the mind likely wants to wander: what's going on tomorrow, was that the right thing to say, I really aced that test, boy did I ever louse up, that pasta was good, and so on. When you find your mind drifting from your count--when you become aware that you are no longer focused on your count & breath--simply cut the thought short, and go back to the count. No judgement or whatever on the drift, merely let the thought(s) go and start to count again. As a note, it is good to begin meditating in a setting where you won't be disturbed or distracted, but you'll find as you do this for awhile, you'll become able to meditate in environments that are full of distractions, but it won't matter to you (like on a bus or whatever).

Remember: relax your muscles, count your breath, and when distracted don't chastise yourself, merely start again at One. Keep at it & all the best.
 
 
illmatic
07:27 / 08.06.04
Dammit, I wanted to reply to that but Cats Iao has beat me to it, I think that's a really good guide... (I largely wanted to reply so I could bitch about people who're into magick but never had the wherewithall to learn simple basic stuff like this)... Mind you, saying it's basic doesn't mean it's any less rewarding. It's a great way to de-stress and developing a degree of distance from your internal dialogue can serve as the beginnings of self-analysis. As you continue to practice you can try to maintain a meditative, concentrated state as you go about your day to day business.

When I first learnt I used my breath without a count, and used to enjoy the silence that arose between breathes, watching thoughts flood into this empty space as I began to breathe convinced my of the link between thoughts and physiology.
 
 
illmatic
07:30 / 08.06.04
Oh, and don't beat yourself up or drastically force yourself. Try and enjoy - I normally find it a very pleasant experience.
 
 
Psi-L is working in hell
14:00 / 08.06.04
This was really useful thanks...what are your thoughts on whether you should close your eyes or keep them open during the meditative process? I know that in Buddhist meditation you're supposed to focus on a fixed point aren't you?

I find yoga, for those who haven't tried it, can also produce a very successful meditative state, as it is basically the same process of focussing on your breaths, and just combining those with a sequence of movements...it is a little harder at first to shut out other thoughts, (well it was for me as I was merely trying to stay on my mat and not hurt myself) but after a while the movements become second nature and you can focus solely on the repetative nature of the movements and breath, sometimes it feels like you are flying....
 
 
the cat's iao
21:12 / 09.06.04
Yeah, yoga is (well, is supposed to be anyway) a form of meditation!

Not all Buddhist meditations require a focus on something. As far as keeping your eyes open and having a focus or keeping your eyes shut, well again, this is something I would chalk up to individual preference: do what works best for you!
 
 
The Prince of All Lies
21:57 / 09.06.04
What I do is sit on the ground in sukhasana, which is a pretty simple and not-too-uncomfortable position. The lotus position is too hard for beginners unless you've done some yoga first.
You should sit on a pillow or something like that to keep your knees below your waist, and your back straight. You can put your hands wherever you want, but don't clench your fists. Personally I tend to put my hands like they do in zazen meditation: hands joined resting on your thighs, palms facing up, left palm over right palm, thumbs touching each other. Then close your eyes and relax your eyelids, don't press them too much. Also, stick your tongue to the roof of your mouth to stop it from moving.
Then, after you've settled into position, start breathing slowly, inhaling from the belly, hara or base chakra, climbing to your chest. Then exhale from your chest going down to your stomach. This is the basic yoga breathing method, dirga pranayama.

To clear your mind, you can just focus your attention on breathing (that's my preferred method) or you can repeat a mantra in your mind, listen to relaxing music or tapes, or you can think of an image, Buddha, a flame inside you, etc. Whatever suits you best. Just keep doing it without getting desperate if you don't feel anything. You have to believe that if you relax and let things flow, you will succeed. As you meditate, you may notice you are "slipping" out of your body, like a part of your mind has fallen asleep. It feels similar to lucid dreams, if you've had one you'll know what I'm talking about.You may not feel your body, this is because of the sensory deprivation caused by meditation. The part of your mind that is still conscious will try to rationalize what you are feeling, and that will break your concentration. Just let go, keep your mind calm. As you sink deeper, you may see images in your mind or hear voices. I've only seen images, I never heard voices or smelt anything weird, but I guess that depends on the person. Let the images wander around, they tend to morph and move a lot. Don't try to analyze what they mean, that will only interrupt your meditation. You can always analyze things later.

If you feel a presence (in any form, an angel, a demon, an alien, a lovecraftian monster or whatever suits your ideology/theology) you can "talk" to them in your mind, sometimes they talk back,sometimes they don't. You should ask their names, because when you know their name you can control them. I've met a couple of them, you can treat them like figments of your unconscious mind or as separate entities, it doesn't matter.

When you want to end your meditation, just try to move or feel your body. That will bring you back.

As a general note, don't worry if it doesn't work. The first time I meditated I was lucky, I entered that state in less than 15 minutes of meditation (a rough estimate from looking at my alarm clock after I emerged from meditation). The next day, it only took me 5 minutes to reach trance (or gnosis, altered states, etc) and it was a deeper experience. But then I went for three days without being able to reach that state. So don't worry. Sometimes your mind is too stressed or you are too stimulated to calm your mind for meditation. Don't worry, keep trying and if you still can't do it, you can always try the next day.
It's easier to meditate in a quiet place. I usually do it in my bedroom, I close the door and the window, if necessary I close the shutters and turn off the lights. Don't watch tv or read anything for a couple of minutes before meditation, those kinds of things make it harder to concentrate. A catchy song can be a real meditation-killer.

Lately, though, I've been having some problems reaching "trascendent" states of mind. I guess I had too much success at first, and in the last two months I haven't been able to reach those states. Lust for result is inevitable for me, and I have kinda dropped my daily practices. I'm gonna start again, applying some things I learned while doing yoga, and I'm not gonna force myself into a position that's not comfortable just because it's what most people use. That would be my chaos magick approach to meditation
 
 
Mug Chum
17:49 / 10.06.04
Does any one knows the effect of cigarretes on meditation (i mean Marlboros an' stuff, not marijuana)? Does it screw up the meditation work? What are the effects?

Thanks!
 
 
Unconditional Love
15:19 / 11.06.04
lay on your bed find a comfortable relaxed position, on your back, fetal what ever relaxes your body and makes you feel comfortable, take a longer breath than usual breathing from your stomach,which should rise, but dont force it let it flow in and out like the ocean flowing upon the shore line.

dont try to do anything with the mind, no concentration no focus, just watch the thought processes, become aware of all these things you think are yourself, memories sensations, ideas of it all, eventually over a period of some practice you will become the awareness,the witness to the flow of consciousness and your surroundings.

dont fight anything or try to mediate your experience through conscious filters of any kind, ie counting the breath etc

once comfortable try meditating on the experience of the flow of humanity on a town centre bench or at a football match or in the middle of a kung fu class, dont make the meditation seperate from everyday activity or the state only becomes achieveable in those ritualised circumstances.

this is a little different in places to the advice others have given, but this is what works for me.
 
 
macrophage
17:54 / 11.06.04
I would start off with a nice all in one yoga book. There are plenty of Raja Yoga ebooks available for free - you just gotta fetch them. Say if you have done Object then Image Concentration you will find that you can anchor that experience by just visualising that object. There are so many paradigms you can surf - the possibilities are endless! Hatha Yoga can act good to train the mind into focusing with its mudras and poses. Then you can make yer own poses up, don't know what the "experts" would say though!
 
 
Mmothra
18:33 / 09.03.06
You might find this interesting:

 
 
---
19:24 / 09.03.06
Does any one knows the effect of cigarretes on meditation (i mean Marlboros an' stuff, not marijuana)? Does it screw up the meditation work? What are the effects?

I'm pretty sure that they reduce awareness, (especially with all of the added stuff that's put into them.) so if you smoke a lot, you won't be as alert, focused, or in touch with your mind, thoughts, feelings, and sensations as you would be without them. You can still meditate and get it to work, but it's just harder and your senses aren't as finely tuned.
 
 
Wombat
19:47 / 09.03.06
I`d second what spine said. But with the added method of dropping a train of thought if it happens. (useful side result is that if you have an annoying song/thought/etc... running thru your head you will aquire the ability to drop it in an instant).
Start off in a comfortable quiet environment (where you don`t have to move about much and slowly build up to the point where you can do it when walking in an urban environment)

Results for me where an increased awareness of my own habitual thought processes and some control.

Recently ( a couple of years ago ) added a relaxation technique to the meditation and saw how my conscious thoughts interacted with my body. (only got as far as face...working on shoulders at the moment). I`m not sure how noticing tension in muscles is gonna be useful...but it`s bloody interesting to see what makes me tense up.

Try it. See what works for you. (might take some time and effort). What specific results are you after?
 
  
Add Your Reply