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Digital Hermes
00:43 / 28.05.04
This is intended to be either a meeting place for mage-wannabes like myself, or a convergence between the skilled and the novice. From a personal view, I'm been working with Crowley a bit, Morrison's Pop Magic, and, well, that's about it besides some tarot.

Maybe the best way to say this is, what's on your bookshelf? What's indispensible, both in terms of books, and overall foundation philosophies?

Or, if you're like me, what are some of the most burning questions? For me it's 'Can reality itself be altered? Or only our perceptions?'

So, run from there, if anyone is interested.
 
 
electric monk
01:48 / 28.05.04
Crowley's 777. I consider it indispensable. Likewise Ray Sherwin's "Theater of Magic". You can find that one in the PDF thread.
 
 
illmatic
07:44 / 28.05.04
Indispensable for me - Tantra Magick - Amookos, Richard Wilhelm's translation of the I Ching, Chris Hyatt's "Undoing Yourself" (for the exercises only - not fussed about the rest of the book). I'm surprised at how few I can think of to be honest. Maybe Spare's "Book of Pleasure".

As to what's indispensable in terms of philoshphies, I have to give this more thought but off the cuff, I'd say a spirit of thinking - fuck the books, and just getting stuck in, and making your own judgements from there. I don't think we can necessarily alter reality in a "tight fit in with what we want" kind of way, but magicial process defintely do have fucking weird effects beyond our psyche. It's not all perceptual - but it did take me a while to get to that realisation - as I've said a few times before, it was the I Ching that did this for me - too accurate, too consistently.
 
 
Nietzsch E. Coyote
10:11 / 28.05.04
Essential stuff:

Jan Fries, Visual Magick.
Jan Fries, Helrunar.
Julius Evola, Introduction to Magic.
Kanton Shual, Sexual Magick.
Lon Milo DuQuette, Tarot of Ceremonial Magick, book and deck. (for learning)
Aleister Crowley, deck and Book of Thoth. (for advanced work)
Peter J Carrol, Liber Null. (no longer essential but it was a foundation of my development)

Plenty of paper in various configurations. (books and loose)
Sound recording tool. (tape recorder for now)
Camera. (either Polaroid or digital)
Video Camera (maybe... eventually)
Place to walk.
Place to sit.

I might post essential ideas later.
 
 
Digital Hermes
23:48 / 28.05.04
I read Ray Sherwin's 'Theatre of Magick' PDF, Electricmonk, and I guess I was expecting it to be more, I don't know, theatrical? Yeats, in his more mystical moments, had also sorts of cosmological ideas wrapped around a theatre metaphor, which seems sexy to me.

To follow the nature of the thread, what did you find indispensible about this text?
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
17:03 / 29.05.04
Magic should be alive. It should be a two-way process that takes over and works you more than you work it. It should be challenging and rewarding in equal measures. It will give and take away everything you ever wanted. It will turn you inside out and expose the inner workings of your soul under a cruel microscope. It will watch your back in the darkest hour and take care of business when the chips are down.

If you can pick up a textbook and point to a written source for every aspect of the magic that you do, then you are doing shit magic. You learn magic by doing it. There is no other way. Just as there is no other way to learn a musical instrument other than to play it; no other way to learn realistic self-defence than to get into fights. The best parable to base the development of your magic on is that of the shaman who goes off into the wilderness by himself and learns everything he needs to know directly from the Spirits. If you can do that, then you have no need for bloated overweight decadent magical orders to “initiate” you into their threpenny mystery schools. Direct connection to the source is the only thing worth having.

The term Gnostic denotes this solid connection. A Gnostic Christian is a person who has Christ in his or her head, riding them like an Orisha. Someone so enflamed by the Holy Spirit that they can cure the sick and work miracles, acting as a channel for their concept of the Divine. This is a better model than wanky old 20th century chaos magic. If someone tries to tell you that a “gnostic state” means the way you feel after spinning round in a circle till you get dizzy, set fire to them at the first opportunity.

Learning magic from the Spirits is not the same as making a load of cool sounding shit up and patting yourself on the back for it. These things have to be earned and won. You can go out and cut down a branch and call it a “magic stick” and ponce about with it, but that is not the same as being driven by strange forces, seemingly outside of yourself and with their own strange agenda, into a dark forest in another country far from home. Facing terrible fears, overcoming physical, mental and emotional ordeals. Having everything that you hold precious and dear to your heart taken away from you, and being awarded the right to carry the magic stick in return. You get your magic stick like that, and you’ll have a magic stick nobody will want to fuck with.

Don’t believe in anything that you haven’t personally experienced. Keep an open mind. Don’t assume that a conceptual framework is necessarily more sophisticated/superior just because it uses the language of post-modernism, psychology or popular science. People have been practising magic for a fuck of a long time and our ancestors were not idiots. “Dark matter accumulator rod” is just uptown talk for “Duppy Stick”.

Remember your ancestors. There’s a reason why virtually all spiritual, shamanic and magical systems the world over are heavy on the ancestor worship. They are there for you. They are in your corner. You are part of the same object as them. The same organism smeared through time, snaking back into your mother, and her back into her own mother, all the way back until things get squishy and primordial, and even further still. You’re a part of that. The latest product. The tips of the branches of the Great Tree of Being.

For whatever reasons, popular western magical practice from the Golden Dawn to Chaos Magic overlooks this, and that’s pretty tragic. We’ve lost that. Maybe we tip an embarrassed nod every Halloween, but as a culture we don’t have that resource on hand. We’re cut off from that immense source of wisdom, guidance, support and serious spiritual clout. Unconsciously or otherwise, neglecting your ancestors is a decision that you keep making every day. Sort that out. Heal the rift. Nourish the roots and branches of what you are and where you came from.

If you want to learn about magic, chances are you weren’t the first in your family line to have that calling. You are connected to a lot of lives, stretching back quite literally to the beginning of time. What they have to teach you is yours. Your magic. Not Crowley’s or Austin Spare’s or Tommy Coopers. Your own gear. Get that back on line. See what there is swimming in the collective ancestral pool of knowledge, and work out how you can use and apply it.

Get your magic out into the world. Walk the streets where you live. Get to know your City and its hidden mysteries. Read up on the history. Keep your eyes open. Learn where the power spots are, ancient and modern, and figure out how to use them in your magic. Take ownership of your turf. Build a relationship with the place where you live. Look after it. Find out what it wants. Every time you walk down the street to buy a newspaper has the potential to be a dialogue with the Spirits of your town. It doesn’t matter where you live. Magic is everywhere. Alan Moore is Magus of Northampton, of all places.

Work out why you are practising magic. You should know that as clearly as you know your own name, so that if someone asks you: why do you do this stuff? You will be able to answer lucidly and without hesitation.

Work out exactly what it is that you want to do with the finite time that you have on this Earth, and then try to do it. Accomplish things. What are you here for? What are you bringing to the table? Are you honestly using your natural aptitudes and the skills that you’ve developed to the best of your ability in order to make the world a better place in whatever way you feel is most appropriate? If the answer to that is “no”, then why the fuck not? Start tomorrow. That’s “The Great Work” right there. You’re a magician aren’t you? Pull something brilliant and unexpected out of the hat.

Magic, that is to say good and strong magic, will tend to seep into everything that you do. It’s not something you can take out of a box and put away again when you’re done. All of life is magical. If you’re looking for a hobby, take up stamp collecting or knitting.
 
 
rising and revolving
13:53 / 31.05.04
Gypsy, that was awe inspiring, in the best possible ways.

Thanks.
 
 
Seth
14:39 / 31.05.04
Gypsy, you're so on the money it hurts. Thank you. Reading your posts is like drinking firewater.
 
 
osymandus
16:45 / 31.05.04
I agree with all your points gypsy but the "Chaos" ive experinced is exactly what you've described. Flowing and alive . Ive called and been spoken to by ganesh just by dancing. The bull Asmodel has been my patron for sometime now (i seem to have a recuring theme with it ).

It is all Tao untill spoken by which it then becomes Te.
Oh i should also mention some books as well !
Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton Wilson got me into this mess and teh Barefoot doctor books assit in the journey (possible not for teh lactose inyolerant among you )
 
 
SteppersFan
18:20 / 31.05.04
So, Gypsy, when's the book coming out?

:-)

Seriously, this essay should be saved somewhere on't web.

Maybe my long-awaited exegesis on "How to Cheat at Magick" is finally getting some content -- complete with its companion title, "Big Bob's Book of Magickal Bollocks".
 
 
macrophage
18:35 / 31.05.04
I believe that alot of spiritual stuff owes itself to ancestors (just now in this 10 secs of fame world I believe that psychic essences of DNA are passed down every 2nd generation), and also to understanding atavisms emenating from the oldest parts of our brains. Book 4 by Crowley, any Spare, any Carroll, any Hine, whatever else really. Magick lies all around.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
20:56 / 31.05.04
Blimey, thanks for all the comments on that post.

So, Gypsy, when's the book coming out?

I’ve got quite a lot of interesting stuff in the pipeline on that front… slowly slouching towards Bethlehem along with various other ongoing projects.

Seriously, this essay should be saved somewhere on't web.

I posted it up on my blog this afternoon actually, cos I thought it managed to express a lot of my current thinking on magic in a fairly concise way. I’ve also got a section on my website called ‘Dub Shamanics’, which is where I’m putting the various articles I’ve written on magic, but there’s only a couple on there so far.

Blog is at http://molotovia.blogspot.com

Website is at http://www.molotovia.co.uk
 
 
Mitch Brown
23:47 / 31.05.04
Gypsy - that was a fantastic post of a quality not usually found on internet message boards.

While I don't agree with you 100% (about 98% ), you've given me a lot of food for thought.

The idea of setting fire to spin-yourself-to-Gnosis mages had me chuckling...
 
 
Digital Hermes
04:49 / 01.06.04
Gotta say, Gypsy, some powerful stuff there. And I agree with most of it.

One of my best qualities/biggest downfalls is that I am a pluralist. I see it from Heaven and Hell's point of view. So though I agree, just doing the Thelemic dance steps is no way to flex creation's quantum muscles, for someone who truly believes, who is preparing for the next Aeon, or awaiting the newest communiqué from Hermes Trismegistus, well, if it works for them, fine. Even the spin-your-way-to-Gnosis people. As long as belief is there. Like you said, Alan Moore is magus of Northampton, without any O.T.O. to validate him, but also, half of what he uses comes from Crowley and that whole viewpoint. What makes it work is commitment. Which is pretty much what I tell my actors when directing a show. Which, I have begun to think, can be pretty darn magical. But anyway...

So Gypsy, you've given us a ton of great stuff with your essay; now can you tell us anything about the genesis of it, or how you would perhaps induct a less trained or experience individual, into some of what you discussed. I can understand the mistrust of text, that said, has anything in particular got you started, or interested? I myself do quite a bit of Alan Moore reading, and Promethea seems like a great sort of entry point. It was mine, at least. What about you?
 
  
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