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Nudey-ness.

14:15 / 25.05.04

nudist colonies - year long summer camp for exhibitionists, hunting ground for perverts, or safe and social place for a legitimate lifestyle?

I ask because I have only (knowingly) met a couple of people who have gone to such places, and they sorta struck me as the first - getting naked in semi-public with strangers for occasional recreation.

have you or someone you know gone to such places, and WOULD you? why or why not? do you even walk around your own place dressed only in your own skin, or are you far more modest/shy/easily embarrassed/protective of your goods?

what goes on there, anyway? are they just playing volleyball and sharing drinks and jokes in a hot tub, like teevee would have you believe?

I'm sorry if I seem overly dismissive, but I can't help but get giggly when I think of (supposedly?) non-sexual group nekkidness.

14:23 / 25.05.04

I went into a nudist chatroom once, obviously that's not a great indication of the lifestyle in general but it was a deeply disturbing place and not in a funny way either..

"Do you get nude in front of your mom, do you ever get turned on" That was the kind of thing but then this was mirc and they probably talk about sex in every room.

*Nudist chatroom as in a chatroom for people to talk about it rather than a chatroom where you take your breeks off*

15:29 / 25.05.04

I have this great coffetable book from the late 70s called "The Shameless Nudes," photo-documenting the nudist lifestyle. It tries very hard to suggest that nudists do the exact same things everyone else does, they just do it nude.

17:01 / 25.05.04

I frequent a "clothing-optional" campgrounds myself, sort of a pagan churchy thing with festivals and the like. There's a sort of culture one quickly adapts to where casual nudity just doesn't mean all that much, and folks generally enjoy the breeze and carry on much as normal. You'd think its all an exciting pervy sort of thing, but really its rather dully life as usual, just more flesh colored. When noone really considers your naughty bits exceptionally worth notice, its not like you are naked at all. Nude is just what you are wearing.

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17:34 / 25.05.04

Ah, I've just been reminded of a programme I saw on TV many years ago (when I was just a small stoat) about nudism which, being young, I watched avidly cos "there's nekkid people on Tv and they're all bare and EVERYTHING!!!). The only bit I can remember is where the family were cooking breakfast... I worried about the fat-burns from the egg-frying. I still do.

Cheap. Easy. Cruel.

17:39 / 25.05.04

I have known a few nudist couples, and they seemed pretty normal. They do the same things everyone else does, just naked (well, except frying bacon). It never seemed very pervy to me, it seems that the perv stigma is attached by people who remain clothed most of the time.

I personally walk around my house naked and have no problem with public nudity. There never has really been a compelling reason for me to go to a nudist colony. While naked is nice, it isn't really a defining part of my personality. Since most of my friends are not all that keen on the idea of seeing me naked, I keep my clothes on around them. (Although, most of them I have partied with have probably seen me naked at one moment or another.)

21:36 / 25.05.04

It is one of those things I feel like I should do at least once before I die. Whether that's at a camp or a beach or what. It just seems like always keeping your nakedness entirely private is somewhat unnatural.

But on the other hand, I'm uneasy with the idea of making a habit of it, or trying to treat it as something normal and everyday, which it clearly isn't. Go figure.

I was once inspired by a song I particularly like to do this. I was sitting there listening to the song, and I suddenly felt the desire to be naked, as if the music had planted the idea into me. I reckon it must be a significant part of the average person's psyche, unless I'm especially unusual. Just a question of whether you choose to act on it. Is there anyone who could honestly say that if they had a secluded spot out in the wild where they were guaranteed privacy, that they wouldn't want to experience being fully exposed to the sun and wind?

But I dunno, maybe this thread is guaged towards the issue of communal nudity, which is perhaps more problematic.

Where does skinny-dipping come into it? Anyone done that?

22:20 / 25.05.04

I was once inspired by a song I particularly like to do this. I was sitting there listening to the song, and I suddenly felt the desire to be naked

I've got to ask... Which song?

10:22 / 26.05.04

I've been on a gay nude beach once and really liked it. At first, I admit, for the sheer *phwoarlookithim!* factor but that very quickly went away and it was just...nice to lie about naked. It's odd how quickly I got used to it.

Ex

10:27 / 26.05.04

Probably worth doing it somewhere that has an established culture of non-lechy nudery, maybe somewhere with some kind of management/organiser. I tried the local beach (buoyed up by egalitarian naturist thingummybob) and had general trouble with peering, perving, leching, persistant unwanted conversations.

Ex

10:30 / 26.05.04

Sorry - wasn't clear from that that it was a Legally Nude beach.

10:42 / 26.05.04

I've done this in rituals - feel very happy about it when I'm my own, feels fine. I prefer it if anything, depending on the weather. Brings out a few issues when you're with other people, which is interesting - with me it's not so much embarassment about nudity, I couldn't care less, it's more not to be seen perving/eyeing up someone else tackle - ttying to mentally stand there with relaxed "just having a G & T" air about you. A magickally inclined friend commented after a ritual, it's always such a bind to put your clothes back on.

13:53 / 26.05.04

Where does skinny-dipping come into it? Anyone done that?

Frequently, every summer, and its glorious

Really, there's just no better way to enjoy a cold mountain stream on a sweltering hot day. Just watch for the fishies, they can nip at your bits sometimes.

14:17 / 26.05.04

Im far too shy (and, I will admit shamefacedly, FAR too insecure) to get naked in front of a bunch of strangers. hell, I can barely get naked in front of someone I've been intimate with. how hard is that to get over!?

also, I can imagine I'd likely get super wrapped up in trying not to look at peoples goods - not that Im a big perve or anything, just that I have a guilty conscience, and in any situation I overdo the trying not to stare bit.

....my sloppy-grammar topic summary is driving me mad.

14:32 / 26.05.04

I'm guessing now I shouldn't have posted, mirc is hardly the place to get a general impression of anything....

15:30 / 26.05.04

I've got to ask... Which song?

It's called "Afraid of Sunrise".

"Dressed in black, no turning back
We blanked out on the Great White Way
Fingers in desire's crack
We'd bridge and tunnel into day
Abandoned to the salt of skin
Abandoned to the highway
Sand running in the hourglass
Heat of leather and mirages
So how do we now come to be afraid of sunlight
So how do we now come to be afraid of sunlight

Day-Glo Jesus on the dash
Scorch marks on the road ahead
Friendly fire in hostile waters
Keep the faith, don't lose your head
Don't lose your head

So how do we now come to be afraid of sunlight
Afraid of Sunlight

Agave flower
Sleep beside me
Driving on
Nevada's burning
Phoenix rising
Driving on
To sunlight

Day-Glo Jesus on the dash
Scorch marks on the road ahead
Friendly fire in hostile waters
Keep the faith, don't lose your head
Don't lose your head

So how do we now come to be afraid of sunlight
How do we now come to be afraid
Afraid of sunlight"

It's by a band called Marillion.

15:33 / 26.05.04

But it's mainly the music that inspired the feeling in me. The co-inciding themes of the lyrics are quite surprising, given how rarely I find the same things in music and lyrics.