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Spiegelman No Towers

 
 
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19:35 / 23.05.04
Art Spiegelman is due to publish In the Shadow of No Towers in September in a £20 Penguin HB. Has anyone seen any proofs or serialisations?
 
 
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19:37 / 23.05.04
Ah.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:40 / 24.05.04
Oooooh, this looks good. Hope it's in the U.S. then too. (I saw a cryptic reference to the US edition in there by a company I've never heard of) But if it's Art and it's Sept. 11th-related, I'm sure it'll be out there, front and center.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:48 / 05.09.04
I just saw Spiegelman give a talk at the Strand bookstore in NYC (near Union Square) -- it was also televised on C-SPAN. The book is out, and I honestly wasn't that impressed with it. Ah well. It was fun to see a Pulitzer Prize-winning comic book author/artist in person. He was funny and intelligent.
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
20:48 / 05.09.04
There was a preview in that McSweeneys book that you should all rush out and buy - It looked pretty good. Very different style to Maus though.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
07:49 / 11.09.04
It comes in a lovely edition, too... big hardback, on thick card pages. At first glance it looks light on content- it's basically ten double-page spreads in the style of the old Krazy Kat/Little Nemo type newspaper strips, followed by seven reprints of genuine old strips and an essay on their relevance.

But it's very good, and I thought well worth the twenty quid. The format allows him to journaliuse his own experiences on the day while throwing in satirical shorts in the old-stylee and single cartoons. Other than its politics and the story being told, it's fascinating on the level of comics history as well.
 
 
sleazenation
10:06 / 11.09.04
Oddly enough the format of the book actively put me me off.

I realise that this is an Art Spiegelman comic and Spiegelman is very much into the notion of the comic as art object. He is very playful with the notion - see the issue of RAW he did with corners torn off... And while I like larger format graphic novels the thick cardboard pages of In the Shadow of No Towers just reminded me of the child-proof chewable books. It can't contain more than 30-odd pages and yet its on sale for £16 - roughly the same price as McSweeny's, however that particular comic/art object
contained over 260 pages.

I realise some of the reprint rights might have boosted the price up and a larger size was needed to both emphasize the enormity of the subject matter and give appropriate space for the reprinted sunday strips but this still seemed a bit over-expensive... and certainly dissuaded me from buying it straight away...
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
20:50 / 11.09.04
Well, order it from a fucking library then!
I'm sure it'll be out in a smaller, cheaper edition at some point. But the pages are designed to be newspaper-sized.
And yes, I'd have loved it to be cheaper. But I'd rather have a small amount of good shit than a large amount of bad shit (which I've wasted money on many times before).
Personally, I'm glad I bought it. Others may feel differently.
 
 
sleazenation
22:28 / 12.09.04
Seriously Stoatie - I don't think it will be available in an alternative format, outside the 8 or so pages that are presented in McSweeny's. Besides which, as far as I'm aware the material in this book has struggled to find places to carry it prior to its collection here - a less than compelling format is only going to cut into the number of people willing to buy what was already going to be a niche book.

As I attempted to convey in my earlier post - I understand that the reprinted sunday strips are helped by being presented in their original large format - but i'm not entire convinced that thick chew-proof pages are the ideal format for this comic and most importantly - i'm not sure i'm willing to spend my hard earned money on it. Which is a shame 'cos I was looking forward to this book.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
17:43 / 13.09.04
You could always borrow mine...
 
 
sleazenation
18:14 / 13.09.04
Now there's an idea...
 
 
Krug
20:44 / 13.09.04
Spiegelman's doing a signing at the Brattle in Boston next week and as much as I want to see him and read his book, I don't want to spend 20$ on a 40 page book which is why I'm waiting to get it from the local library.

If I love it, I'll get the trade.
 
 
FinderWolf
18:42 / 14.09.04
I don't think there will be a paperback version, given the format. When I saw him speak at the Strand in NYC he said the only way he could see it being published is as it is, with big thick cardboard pages and no gutter binding, like a children's book.

There are a few cool thigs in there -- one of which is Spiegelman riffing on Little Nemo in Slumberland, with Nemo falling out of bed wearing a gas mask, as was the vogue in the weeks directly after 9/11 in NYC.

Another is Spiegelman's constant reminder of something he saw with his own eyes as one of the towers fell, something we've never seen in the countless replayed images of the towers falling in the media. He was running away from the tower with his daughter and wife, and they turned around to see the tower glowing, its beams suddenly becoming white-and-orange hot just before they collapsed -- he said it looked like some eerie glowing spectre of the tower, sort of like a weird colorful x-ray of the tower's bones and beams. That image, which he tried to capture in many paintings and which he finally feels he captured well in a Photoshop painting, is pretty wild and it's the first I've heard of this image in relation to 9/11. He, his wife and his daughter, who all saw this, feel his final version of it captures pretty much exactly what it looked like for a second before collapsing.
 
  
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