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Practical Application of Crowley's “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law”

 
 
h3r
23:54 / 14.05.04
I am very interested to hear
A) how the individual members/visitors of the Temple/Magick community interpret/understand Crowley's theorem “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law”?
B) how (if at all) do you apply this formula to your actions and way of life?
 
 
mAn
11:34 / 15.05.04
hi h3r
1.My interpretation is acting on his own intention without causing harm to your
environment. For me that means. Respecting peoples spheres and trying to
understand a person 's nature before acting.

2.Selfimprovement and being inventive and ingenious.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
12:55 / 15.05.04
As far as I know, the quote was a couplet:

"Do what thou Wilt shall be the whole of the law.
Love is the law, Love under Will."

The second line gets ignored more often than not, probably due to the popularity and bravado of the first line (re: Satansism, Ayn Rand, etc etc).
 
 
Skeleton Camera
12:57 / 15.05.04
Ohyea... in terms of application. I do not explicitly follow such a dictum, but I do base my actions on a very personal morality and try to keep those actions respectful of others. I also am constantly trying to better understand that morality and its origins, ie, trying to actualize my Will with that capital W.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
14:54 / 15.05.04
I think of it as trying to act in accordance with your nature. Trying to make everything within your life an expression of what you are. My understanding of the phrase 'every man and woman is star' is connected to this, in that 'a star' is being referenced as a metaphor for the human soul.

We are all stars in our own orbit, but when we stray from that orbit, we restrict the light of that star. For me, doing your will means making sure that you're doing the sort of work that you feel compelled to be doing. Making your money in a way that is an expression of who and what you are. It's also about making sure you are dressing the way you want to be dressing, and if that means getting tailor-made 1960s mod suits made for you, then it's about going out and getting that done. Doing your will is about making sure that you're surrounded by people who make you happy, people who are on the same page as you, or will challenge you, or watch your back when the shit goes down. The people in your life are as much an expression of your soul, and your Thelemic will, as anythig else in your life. Doing your will might be about learning how to cook extraordinary meals so you only ever eat delicious food that makes you feel brilliant. Or it might be about trawling obscure record shops to buy rare northern soul and rocksteady 45s, filling your life with a soundtrack that's a perfect expression your soul.

If you're not living the way that you instinctively know that you should be living, then you are not doing your will. Half of the battle is listening to yourself and working out exactly what it is you want to be doing. And then doing it. If it seems you're a long way off from accomplishing this, better start work on it first thing tomorrow.

I think that's why we're all here, we all have a puzzle to solve, and the process of trying to solve that puzzle is called 'doing your true will'. I think it's more about the process of imaging the life you want and working towards it, than it is about reaching any final utopian state of grace. You make a jigsaw for the pleasure of doing it, it's not all about putting the last peice in place.

This, to my mind, is what 'doing your will' means. It doesn't mean imposing a forceful personality on other people to get what your ego wants. It means just living inaccordance with your essential nature, trying to do more of the things that make you happy and make you feel alive, and less of the things that make you feel small and defeated and dampen the glow of your star/soul.

Interestingly, the notion of a star being a metaphor for the soul is present within Haitian Vodou, within the concept of "Ze'toile", entirely independently of its presence in Thelema.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
20:21 / 15.05.04
Love the examples, Gypsy. Wunderbar!

And an interesting application of the idea at that. Uber-self-realization, basically. "Do what you Will" being do what you need to, in order to fulfill your Will. And that Will, thus, is the construction of a complete entity (YOU).

I suppose I'm just impressed by the inclusion of what could be written off as "insignificant details." But in a more balanced light those details are what form the whole. Thus they contribute to whatever actualization you're headed towards.

It's a good spin on the 'spiritual search' idea, too. A more holistic one.

(Did I get that right?)
 
 
Sekhmet
01:28 / 16.05.04
My weekly group recently studied and discussed Crowley's eight lectures on Yoga, in which he discusses this Will concept at some length and explains what he meant by it... Though, depending on how you view Crowley, even his own explanation may be suspect, but...

The gist was, as I recall, that your personal will and your "True Will" are not necessarily the same thing, and that by "Do what thou wilt" he did NOT mean "do what you please". He uses the phrase True Will to describe, basically, what you're supposed to be doing - your Purpose in life. His theory being that if everyone figured out what their True Will was and did it, it would eliminate all conflict between people and their goals, as well as most of the difficulty and dissatisfaction people have with their lives. His opinion was that one's True Will, once discovered, should be the only guiding principle for one's life - tempered by Love, by which he does not mean sentimentality, but an awareness of the essential Oneness of the universe, and respect and recognition for your own and other beings' places in the cosmic scheme.

That, at any rate, is what I gleaned from it, but I don't have the text in question with me right now, so if anyone has editorial comments, feel free...
 
 
LykeX
01:52 / 16.05.04
Crowley's Eight Lectures On Yoga

Thought it might be relevant. I myself haven't read much Crowley, so I'll stop talking now.
 
 
Z. deScathach
07:28 / 16.05.04
Gypsy.... that was incredible.

That having been said, to me the statement calls one to examine one's desire and intent on the deepest level, and to live one's life to fulfill that intent. Many persons have good intents, but crappy ways of getting them. If a persons intent is that they live in a world that allows human creativity, expression, and freedom, then the first thing to do is to get their own house in order, so that they are not working against that intent. If a person looks out at the world around them and sees oppression and suppression, and seeing that causes them pain, then the first thing they should look at is to not oppress and suppress others. To me, Crowley's statement is an exhortation to live life in unity with one's True Intent, what one truly desires, rather than some of the more surface desires that may or may not work against that intention. Creation from the core of one's own humanness. Of course re-linking back to that core can be quite a challenge......
 
 
Mario
12:43 / 16.05.04
If you're not living the way that you instinctively know that you should be living, then you are not doing your will. Half of the battle is listening to yourself and working out exactly what it is you want to be doing.

This sounds an awful lot like the basic tenet of Taoism...interesting.
 
 
Skeleton Camera
13:17 / 16.05.04
To extrapolate into the bizarre...

"Do what thou Wilt..." can be seen as essentially temporal. That is, related to the being's position in time. If time is a dimension or plane of reality - or whatever the exact nature, if time is a simultaneity, then one's Will or highest Purpose could be a reconciliation of various past and future fragments. This assumes there is an "absolute" model of who you truly are, a sort of personal archetype that you are trying to fulfill. To do this you have reconcile the various facets of you scattered across your timeline. This reconciliation is that higher Will, the purpose you seek to accomplish.

(Whew!)

"Do what thou Wilt..." and "Love is the law..." dictate how the reconciliation takes place. Because as you reconcile these facets you are moving through time, encountering others, effecting all sorts of things as you go. Love becomes the principle of harmony; harmony is necessary for reconciliation. Discord furthers the scattering. "Every man and every woman is a star" sums up the nature of Will, meaning of course not a literal star but a brightness or energy equivilant to stars we perceive.

End extrapolation...
 
 
Unconditional Love
23:26 / 16.05.04
everyman and women is a star.
indras net of jewels
each facet reflecting each other,
each star recieving the light of all others
yet shining brightly of its own accord.

love is the law love under will......love given consciously from the star of being.

do what thou wilt.

the law to love is the will to live.
 
 
illmatic
08:02 / 17.05.04
I feel that this thread I started a short while ago might be related: Thelema Beyond Crowley - Happiness- Random Musings

In one of his commentaries on The Book of the Law, Crowley talks about True Will by comparing it with the desire of some woman to bear children. Note the "some" there, I don't for a second think Crowley was suggesting it's the fundamental duty for women or the only possible fulfilling role for them or some other such essentialist crap. I think what he meant was that we all have some things in us that are an almost biologically based imperative (I've met a couple of women (one ex of mine, actually) who seemed to want to have children more than anything else, which reminded me of this phrase). Something that drives us from the cells upward. So this might be a way to look at the True Will - what do you want to spend your life giving birth to? This is something to give consideration to when thinking about the symbolism of Hadit and Nuit. Ra Hoor Khuit is the child of their union, and as such he's the vehicle of the Will, a glyph of union, equating to Will being executed.

Kenneth Grant uses a nice phrase (I think drawn from Austin Spare) - "reifying the inherent dream", making real that dream we each carry inside of us. In the case of Spare, this relates pretty obviously to artistic creation, but I don't think we should narrow it down to works of aesthetic beauty - an act of creation might be a piece of fine factual writing, it might be a job done well, it might be new and postive relations between friends and lovers. I think it's the totality of these things, over as expressed over someone's life that equals the True Will. Following Gypsy, I think a nice metaphor might be seeing your life as the slow construction of a fuck off big sound system, and then using it to mash up the dance.
 
 
illmatic
08:33 / 17.05.04
Slightly off topic - From the Book of the Law: “Be goodly therefore: dress ye all in fine apparel; eat rich foods and drink sweet wines and wines that foam! Also, take your fill and will of love as ye will, when, where and with whom ye will! But always unto me”.

Now, there is a little known unpublished comment on this verse which clearly shows it’s prophetic qualities. Crowley states in his diaries for 1904 - “ “fine apparel” – ref. to two tone Tonik suits. Went to see tailor in Cairo but he didn’t understand what I was talking about. ”. Quite incredible! Also, if one looks at the original manuscript, (the original that is – not that fake that gets published everywhere), one can clearly see he has crossed out, following the phrase “wines that foam” the words “and all things produced by Coxsone and Duke Reid are glorious unto me!”. Now my question is - how did Crowley know of these things 60 years before they happened and why is the OTO trying to cover it up?
 
 
FinderWolf
13:15 / 17.05.04
What's prophetic about him saying 'fine apparel'? I don't get it.
 
 
Seth
13:38 / 17.05.04
You will. Tomorrow. Mark my words.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
13:51 / 17.05.04
I think that the key to understanding that often difficult section of The Book of the Law really lies in Crowley's annotations to the third part, where Ra Hoor Kuit is described as "still grabbin, an a stabbin, an a lootin, and a shootin, no he too bad"
 
 
Seth
20:43 / 17.05.04
Ra Hoor Kuit is Yosemite Sam?
 
 
SteppersFan
16:19 / 18.05.04
> Ra Hoor Kuit is Yosemite Sam?

No, he's Tenor Saw.

Of course, the real reason why Gardner got into so much trouble with his HPSes was because of his obsession with "The Trojan, coming out of the Darkness" -- they all thought he was referring to them as Helen of Troy, and got all uppity when he didn't stick with the "most beautiful woman in the world" script.

When he died off North Africa in 1964, he was about to go on pilgrimage to Kingston. He was already an expert in rock steady and was due to meet Prince Buster. Who knows what would have happened if he had managed to fulfil his ultimate ambition of unifying British folk tradition and Romantic paganism with reggae.

Lovers rock is the Law; Lovers rock, under Dancehall.
 
 
Issaiah Saysir
21:11 / 25.05.04
Do what thou will
What thou will do
Thou will do what
Will do what thou
 
 
LVX23
06:00 / 26.05.04
"You must know a place you can kiss..."

Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law. As noted this verse is one of a couplet, the rejoinder being: Love Is The Law. Love Under Will.

Note that the first verse contains 11 numbers, and the second 6.

6 represents the macrocosm (Nuit), symbolized by the hexagram. 11 is the fullfillment of the Great Work: the union of the macrocosmic and the microcosmic. The microcosmic is represented by the pentagram, 5 (Hadit).

Thus 5+6=11. Union of the pentagram & hexagram, Nuit & Hadit, the mutual annihilation of opposites.

"For I am divided for love's sake, for the chance of union."

This formula is represented by the Rosy Cross. The 5-petaled rose of the microcosm - the Kingdom - is crucified on the 6-sided cross of the macrocosm - Kether.

The second verse - Love Is The Law, Love Under Will - can be represented by the word AL, as well as the spheres of Chesed & Geburah (as in the Kabbalistic Cross). Aleph Lamed. The ox and the ox goad. Force & Form. Fool & Adjustment. Love & Law. Love is the True Will of the of the universe. It is the impetus towards creation. Creation itself is the apllication of form (Law) to this force of Love.

The great Work is accomplished in life continuously. It is only our illusions which blind us to its working. Crowley's famous couplet is a formula for aligning the individual star with the universal star.
 
 
Lord Morgue
11:28 / 26.05.04
"Do what keepeth thou from wilting. shall be the loophole
in the Law."
-Rev. "Bob" Dobbs
 
 
cusm
15:23 / 26.05.04
This sounds an awful lot like the basic tenet of Taoism

That's cause so much of what Crowley was going on about was eastern mysticism repackaged. It was very clever at the time, these ideas being largely unknown in the western world save as ported through folks like Crowley and the Theosophical Society.

As for the phrase, I take the outward interpretation to be with greater emphesis on the second stanza. That being, to recognize through love the Will of others and to respect the divinity they share with your own, is to act such as to not interfere with their wills while following your own. If through love you recognize the divinity of others, it will not be your True Will to harm them, so by following your True Will in this fashon the statement becomes yet another incarnation of the Golden Rule. The only law man ever need: fuck not with your neighbor. Its all relative from there.

I personally like the version of this from Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure:

Party on. Be excellent to each other.

Such profundity!
 
 
Zophiel
03:00 / 27.05.04
I've always been of two minds on this passage. One side is the "true will" concept presented here several times already. The other is a concept more similar to LaVey's Satanism. Do whatever you want but be ready to face the consequences of your actions, whether karmic or mundane. If "do what thou wilt" is the whole of the law then its a very good idea not to piss off others living under the same law.
 
  
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