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Van Helsing

 
  

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Warewullf
23:00 / 08.05.04
Just saw this. Loved it!

Let me get this out of the way:

Best. Werewolves. EVER.

Van Helsing is a mysterious man who cannot remember his past. Employed by a secret society within the Vatican, he keeps the world safe from the forces of eeeevil.

With some funny, over-the-top moments bordering on the camp, this movie is a surprisingly fun movie. Lots of action, some great effects (some not so great) and some new ideas kept me interested throughout.

I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting this to be all that good. I'd heard that the CGI was a bit ropey and that Kate Beckinsale's accent was laughable. Personally, I thought some of the effects were great (again, excellent werewolves) and her accent was good enough. (I have no idea what a late 19th century Romanian accent should sound like, though...)

The CGI was great in some places. The start of the movie is in black and white and for some reason the CGI looks much better in monotone. In other places throughout the movie, it's not so great with some suspect green-screen moments and some unconvincing bubbly/wet explosions.

The creature designs are excellent with (again) the best looking werewolves I have ever seen on screen. Bar none. The design for Frakenstein's Monster was great. (Loved the electrical nodes in his brain and the the pneumatic leg.) The vampires wmade a nice change of pace from the Buffy monsters we know so well.
They clearly were trying to create an iconic look for Van Helsing himself, although, oddly, they only showed his distinctive bandana-with-the-symbol over his mouth once.
Still, it worked. He has a familiar but distinctive look about him.

Yes, the movie has it's problems with some information left out, presumably for a sequel (the whole "Left Hand of God" thing isn't elaborated upon, for example) and some suspect rope swinging but none of it mattered. The dialgoue was great, the acting was adequate (I mean, it's not going to win an Oscar, but hey, it's a monster movie!) and it did have some new ideas. (Well, they were new to me.)

The movie feels like it owes quite a bit to The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, with a similar premise (classic literary characters existing in the same world/time)but it's far better than that movie. (Though not better than the comic!)

Word of warning, though. This film is rated 12A in the UK. Don't take a 12 year-old to this movie. It's damn scary.
Seriously. The amount jump-out-and-scare-ya moments must be some kind of record. Very scary in places with brilliant sound effects.


So, who's seen it and what did ya think?
 
 
Sleeperservice
14:51 / 09.05.04
I thought it awful in the extreme. Hugh Jackman playing an action hero who can't remember his past? Really, really bad. Don't waste your money. If these are the best effects ILM can do (and given the money this cost they should be) then they're loosing their touch. When the werewolves were on screen I couldn't help thinking of Scooby Doo...
 
 
Triplets
14:57 / 09.05.04
I thought it was fucking excellent. It's the perfect pre-summer action film. Some great visual ideas, decent plot and it kept things going at fast pace. Everything you want from a 'popcorn and coke' movie.

The only problem I had was them blaring the action-theme music all the time. Even when Van was walking around. I mean he's not jumping, he's not exploding, let's have some ambient violin in there, please.
 
 
espy
21:45 / 09.05.04
My summary of the movie: Bad storyline, bad acting, but good graphics.
The storyline was barely a storyline at all, the bit that could be considered a storyline was cliche. Mostly exactly what I expected...the movie makers tried hard to make it scary, but they tried too hard... yes, it would be scary for a 12 year old but not for someone older than that.
The dracula's wives were the worst acting I've seen...ever. That's what you get for hiring models.
However, some of the graphics and special effects made it an okay use of my time.
 
 
Seth
22:52 / 09.05.04
Ladies and Gentlemen: I propose the Van Helsing drinking game. To be best enjoyed with Red Witches (for the uninitiated, that’s a pint of snakebite and black with a double vodka and a shot of Sambuca).

- Two fingers for every world religion referenced in the bizarrely ecumenical Vatican Batcave.

- Two fingers for every time Faramir, Wolverine, Underworld or Frankenstein’s Monster display Spiderman’s agility while swinging on whatever comes to hand.

- Two fingers for every time absinthe is referenced.

- Two fingers for every time Dracula shouts his dialogue. Half a pint when he asks Wolverine, at the movie’s climax, whether they can “Just be friends.”

- Two fingers every time Faramir refers to himself as a Friar.

- Two fingers every time Frankenstein’s Monster delivers inexplicably omniscient exposition. On the subject of FM’s dialogue, he has two of the funniest moments in the movie; screaming “WHY?” at the gathered crowd (who behave with a mob mentality to rival the citizens of Springfield from the Simpsons) before falling into the heart of a burning windmill; and his rant when he’s carried into the masquerade ball (yes, you heard that right: this film has a masquerade ball. In which everyone is a vampire, bar Wolverine, Underworld and Frankenstein’s Monster. Jesus wept over Jerusalem).

- Two fingers every time a character is electrocuted.

- Two fingers whenever a character is set on fire, three if they happen to be a midget, four if they’re a chattering midget, five if it’s a prop that catches fire without rhyme or reason.

- Three fingers for every time a brilliant gadget is totally misused. Ever go werewolf hunting with only one gun that can fire silver bullets? Or forget that you have a hand grenade that creates the effect of pure sunlight when all your villager buddies are getting killed by newborn vampires? A well-aimed bucket seems to be of much more use in the latter scenario, especially if you’re a randy Christian who needs a shag for your chivalry.

- Three fingers for every time the Van Helsing theme kicks in. Which - to be honest - should have been played by Van Halen, shouldn’t it?

- Three fingers for every baffling reference to Jay-Z’s Black Album. God forgive me for my brash delivery, but I remember vividly what this film did to me. I’m not making this up. Seriously.

- Four fingers for every time a werewolf falls into a ravine. Wile Coyote, eat your heart out.

- One sip for every testicle-shaped vampire cocoon that you can count. That’s a lot of drinking. While you’re at it, consider why Dracula wants to unleash an army so vast as to wipe out his only food source in a matter of days. His sole motivation seems to arise from being hen-pecked by the three most atrocious actors ever to turd on a cinema screen.

- A sip every time a vampire swoops down and picks someone up. That’s also a lot of drinking.

- Half a pint whenever a major plot point is discovered by accident (Faramir finding the painting, Underworld and Wolverine locating Castle Frankenstein and Frankenstein’s Monster’s Lair to name three without even thinking).

- A whole pint downed at the very first of the closing credits (if you can manage it through your tears of laughter). This is the movie’s punchline and probably one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen in the cinema.

This list can’t be exhaustive. Please add to it. And then use it when this steaming mound of rancid arse is released on DVD.

The Demiurge is inept, blind and madder than a bagful of crabs soaked in diarrhoea. This film is proof.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
23:10 / 09.05.04
Christ, this film sounds awesome!

*Starts buying/stocking alcohol and waiting for the dvd*

(I think I'd need to wee too much in the cinema)
 
 
Seth
23:21 / 09.05.04
Suedehead: this movie is only as awesome as what you bring to it. I thoroughly entertained myself throughout, but it's really one for those afternoons when you've run out of MST3K.
 
 
Tamayyurt
04:17 / 10.05.04
Best Werewolves EVER!

That said, what crap. This movies was so bad it was funny. What the hell was up with Dracula? He wasn't scary or sexy. I mean, what was the actor going for? And his brides? Lame!

You know, I don't even feel like bashing this movie... it was bad.

Bye.
 
 
The Strobe
06:02 / 10.05.04
Seth, this film sounds awesome.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
09:42 / 10.05.04
This film is very, very bad. It's pretty - if unexciting after a while - but the story is nowhere and you feel no connection to any of the characters. It's not like the Mummy movies where the humour sort of saves it. It's like one of those bad Leslie Nielsen movies which never achieves liftoff.
 
 
Triplets
11:22 / 10.05.04
'Wolverine'

I was calling him that all the way through it.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:46 / 10.05.04
Oh, I SO want to watch this now... maybe Saturday morning, when I can get in for £2.95...
 
 
Michelle Gale
12:45 / 10.05.04
I Thought daraculaaa was a bit pile, he wasn't very scary or particularly camp and funny.I just kept thinking he was going to start flemenco danceing at any second...not sure why really.
 
 
Tamayyurt
14:29 / 10.05.04
YES! I got the same thing but I think that's cause of the out-of-place Spanish guitar playing all over the movie! Olè!
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:59 / 10.05.04
HILARIOUS!!!!

This movie was great fun...

Loved when Wolvie became Wolfie and flexed his 5 claws with a Snikt.

Kate Bekhamahg is probably going to make her career on running around in a corset!!! Then there was that great shirt she wore with the HUGE square nipples.

Dracula was great!!! "Have a heart" I dun't Ave a Heart . . . I'm a Varmpeeire!!!

How about that Tantric Howl as Wolfie become Wolvie again!!!

Gremlins on wings!!!

That had to have been YOUNG FRANKINSTEIN's monster!!!

Igor's . . . "That's what I do"

There should have been a creature in the black lagoon/river those wolves kept faling into...

The MAD magazine "fold this manuscript to reveal the secret of Dracula!!!"

Those cute little shorts the warewolves wore when they became human again!!!

The world's fastest horses!!!

Man this move was GREAT!!!

Gottaw love
 
 
A Bigger Boat
17:38 / 10.05.04
let's not forget Mr Hyde's enourmous arse-crack

"Nothing is faster than Transylvanian horses...not even the wolfman."

Characters constantly talking to themselves in an attempt to explain what's going on

A horse-drawn carriage that burst into flames when hit by a werewolf.

Frankenstein's Monster screaming bible quotes as he is dragged through the vampires' masked ball: "Yeah though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death!!!"

Dracula shouting ALL of his lines

The Return of the Jedi funeral pire ending

The cow that survives a vampire attack

The King of the Gypsies!

Dracula reminding the audience that he has past history with Wolverine by saying "If I know Van Helsing, and I do, he won't settle for half."

And as Seth has already mentioned, that first end credit that had us crying with laughter for 10 minutes.
 
 
A Bigger Boat
17:41 / 10.05.04
and how could I forget...?

"It's the same as your ring."

That line - along with Franky's forlorn "WWHHYY???" - is pretty much a capsule review of the entire movie
 
 
Morlock - groupie for hire
15:52 / 11.05.04
Someone remind me of that first credit? I must have dozed off by that point...

Look at me! I'm Dracula, and I can fly around like some sort of shadow thing, move across the room faster than the human eye can follow, and still get killed by something in need of a shave.

Very dumb. Too dumb to be cool.
 
 
We're The Great Old Ones Now
17:12 / 11.05.04
Can someone explain to me why, in the name of God, when there's a resurrectionist monster tooling around going "you all my frieeeendies, me save", do they BURN THE GODDAM FEMALE LEAD?! Presumably they could just zap her back to life. But oooooh, no. The Monster is sailing away to the fucking South Pole even as they set her on fire. Not that I didn't want to set her - and the rest of them - on fire by that point, but it made even less sense than the rest of this terminally stupid folderol of cg drivel.
 
 
Seth
20:52 / 11.05.04
Someone remind me of that first credit? I must have dozed off by that point...

Tough luck. It's far too funny to spoil. I wouldn't want to rob those who have sat through two hours of shite.
 
 
Jack_Rackem
22:35 / 11.05.04
Van Helsing reminded me way too much of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but at least Van Helsing was stupid and campy, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen was just stupid.

Also add in:

The Hare Krishna Chemist

"Allah forgive you"
 
 
Grey Area
08:30 / 12.05.04
As the immortal Run DMC say: Not bad meaning bad but bad meaning good...this movie begs for the MST3K treatment.

The automatic crossbow that runs out of ammunition yet still has arrows on the outside of the drum.

The solar hand grenade that wraps the fundamental laws of physics and allows light to go around corners to fill an entire building. ("What is it for?"...this is a vampire movie. What in the name of Nosferatu's corpse do you think it's for???)

The amazing, indestructible bottle of Absinthe that survives all its fellow bottles blowing up.

The transylvanian coach that somehow has the ability to move at breakneck speed through the vast snowfields that were only capable of being crossed on horseback at the start of the movie.

The much beloved B-Movie plot twist: "Oops I tripped! See me grabbing this torch/wall carving/bust/pillar support/obvious lever for support! Goodness, what's this? A convenient revelation? Why yes, I think it is!"

And I can just see the casting agent for this movie yelling into the phone: "Quick! I need three really bad actresses with enormous eyes and even bigger breasts to play the brides of Dracula! As long as they can wail and flail their arms like wanna-be Goth chicks they're hired!"

Btw: what happened to the crucifix shuriken that featured in the previews??? I distinctly remember a flick-knife-esque shuriken in the form of a crucifix...

Favourite quote: "But I don't want to go to Transylvania!"
 
 
Warewullf
09:55 / 12.05.04
Btw: what happened to the crucifix shuriken that featured in the previews??? I distinctly remember a flick-knife-esque shuriken in the form of a crucifix...

So do I, now that you mention it. Maybe they're saving it for the DVD...
 
 
Lurid Archive
10:46 / 12.05.04
This kitsch romp through B-movie fare featured some of the worst acting and dialogue I have ever seen. The plot barely hung together, it was so full of holes, and the accents were so ludicrous that I kept expecting a Fast Show scene to develop.

I loved it. Unreservedly.

And I can just see the casting agent for this movie yelling into the phone: "Quick! I need three really bad actresses with enormous eyes and even bigger breasts to play the brides of Dracula! As long as they can wail and flail their arms like wanna-be Goth chicks they're hired!"

Dude. If only more casting agents had this kind of artistic courage.
 
 
reFLUX
09:00 / 14.05.04
it was shit. no original ideas from anywhere. everything stolen, from Frankenstien to Bond. the worst film i've seen this year, and i saw Scooby Doo 2.
 
 
Morlock - groupie for hire
10:37 / 14.05.04
...crucifix shuriken... There was that what-have-I-got up-my-sleeve, my-word-it's-a-collapsible-crucifix moment. Is that what you're thinking of? The only other thing that fits is the handcranked circular saws, one of which Van Helsing throws to pin Igor to the wall.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:13 / 14.05.04
I REALLY want to see this film now...
 
 
Grey Area
11:40 / 14.05.04
Morlock: In the trailer, there was a bit where Van Helsing pulled out one of those crucifixes we see lined up in the VatCave. It flicked from straight into 'crucifix mode' and he proceeded to throw it at someone. Not really sure who, or where, but it was definately there. It wasn't the scene where the crucifix burst into flames, if that's what you're referring to.

Come to think of it, if Dracula has the ability to make stuff burst into flames, why didn't he use that more often?
 
 
Grey Area
11:54 / 14.05.04
Apologies. Have just gone through the teaser trailer frame by frame and yes, through some clever editing they suggested it's the crucifix he throws. Like you said, it's the saw-thing he throws at Igor in the castle. My mistake.
 
 
Quireboy
16:52 / 16.05.04
I saw a press screening so at least I didn't feel I'd wasted my money as well as my time. Anyone who thinks this was any good should be put down because they're a waste of oxygen. The CGI was dreadful, the acting absymal and the script non-existent. Dracula exuded as much menance as Julian Clary. Kate Beckinsdale's accent was so think you'd need a chain saw to cut it. The Mummy was entertaining, hokum, but still enjoyable froth. Van Helsing was pure drivel - and stupefyingly boring to boot.
 
 
Triplets
18:34 / 16.05.04
I'm sorry it didn't tickle your superior intellect.
 
 
Warewullf
20:46 / 16.05.04
Anyone who thinks this was any good should be put down because they're a waste of oxygen

Oh please...
 
 
Liger Null
21:04 / 16.05.04
The only other thing that fits is the handcranked circular saws, one of which Van Helsing throws to pin Igor to the wall.

I loved those buzz-saw weapons. Too bad they weren't in a better movie. The harpies were pretty cool, but there were too many flaws for the film to actually be enjoyable.

It's my own fault. I should have known what I was in for when I saw the anti-gravity stagecoach scene. Was anybody supposed to take that shit seriously?
 
 
Warewullf
21:54 / 16.05.04
Was anybody supposed to take that shit seriously?

No. You weren't supposed to take any of it seriously.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
10:33 / 17.05.04
I too can hardly wait. Buxom goth chicks? Flamenco guitar?

And did I hear Seth say something about BURNING MIDGETS???

Wow.

I'm so there.
 
  

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