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Book buying habits

 
 
illmatic
09:27 / 07.05.04
The recent thread on libraries brought up the notion that library use is falling due increased personal purchasing of books, similarly the “wishlist” thread reminded me of the books I want to get through next, so I thought it was worth asking how many books do you buy a month and what kind of purchasing habits people have – do you buy more than you can get through? Do you have a big pile sitting in your room, generating guilt? Do you print off PDFs instead (I doubt it, a big sheaf of papers isn’t as nice to hold as a solid volume).

I always end up getting hold of more than I can get through – it seems it’s one of the subroutines I run continuously is the acquisition of information. I said to myself recently “this must stop!” and made bold promises to myself, promptly forgot - asked to borrow two books off a mate, printed a big PDF off the net, brought a Victor Pelevin paperback, all the while waiting for a recent order for a hard to get academic tome to arrive at my favourite bookstore.

So what are your habits?
 
 
Looby
10:07 / 07.05.04
I store up book titles that friends have recommended to me and then splurge on Amazon when my bank balance allows and when I can spend enough to get the free postage. I now have about 3 or 4 books to read from my last purchasing frenzy...
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
10:38 / 07.05.04
I'm currently changing my purchaing habits away from general retailers and taking up purchaing at charity stores. Now that charities like Oxfam are becoming more business like and developing themselves in to something of a market force I find that the days of tattered Asimov and 25p Mills and Boone are fading into the distance. London itself has 9 Oxfam Bookshops.
My motivation is largely economical as a little wondering around and patience will get you what you want and at a cheaper price. On top of that I also take pleasure that by my reading habits I'm also helping someone else to learn to read and in turn take pleasure.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
11:34 / 07.05.04
I just have a habit, I think... which has been in abeyance recently owing to my having no money for months on end, but which is now beginning to revive. I have just been to Unsworth's and have bought another history book to go with the one I bought last night (I couldn't resist it - a book about mediaeval hunting practices! This can only be a good thing and will increase my understanding of The Once and Future King, terms of venery, etc. This is the kind of thought process that I go through when justifying unbjustifiable purchases...). I did resist buying three volumes of Fernand Braudel's history of commerce though, even though they were substantially reduced... (I might go back later).

I think I buy books in two ways: 1) just want something to read; and 2) library-building (a.k.a. stockpiling books for various reasons, including 'it's a classic', 'I am interested in this subject and intend to read up on it at some unspecified point', 'it goes with my other ones', etc.). The result of the stockpiling habit is that I have, funnily enough, a stockpile of books I 'haven't got round to yet' (some of which I haven't got round to for years), and the result of the other habit is that I have a sizeable collection of children's books.

Oh, there is another one, 'I need this book for a purpose' e.g. work, reading group, all my pot-plants are dying and I need to know why. But that's not really a habit, is it. Is it? I suppose it must be because I could get a book out of the library, but I rarely do in this situation (except for academic texts which are not available in remainder bookshops, e.g. Unsworth's)

I'm going to go to Blackwell's later and buy the Aeneid...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
14:14 / 07.05.04
Unless it's a book that I'll know I'll like (and sometimes even when I know I'll like it) I'll get a copy from the library first in order to try it out. For the last four or five years I've tended to have a pile of books to read anyway (I'm sure there's a couple in my pile that have been there since before I moved in 2001 and possibly since before I moved before in 2000) so not getting it straight away isn't a big deal to me. If I don't like it I haven't lost anything, if I do then I tend to move on to something like Bookbrain to try and find the cheapest copy.

If I can't get it through the library then I tend to head up to one of the big Borders or Waterstones in London to see if I can look at a copy in the shop.
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
10:49 / 08.05.04
I make book buying the centre piece of sunny days off.

It's about one hour's walk from where I live to downtown London (Ontario). 3/4s of the walk is through park areas, along our Thames. It's great.

I get downtown, and buy a sandwich from one of the various eateries. I finish that by the river, then I head for the the City Lights Used Book Shop.

It's a great little place. It's small and cramped and smells dusty. The selection is amazing, and it has Carl Jung and Jesus action figures hanging behind the cash with big "not for sale" signs on them. The floors creak and you always think the entire store is about to fall through the floor.

The paper backs are half of cover price, which works out to $4-$5 Canadian. I tend to buy at least one book, sometimes too. There are sales, ie horror books for $1.
 
 
Digital Hermes
18:15 / 08.05.04
I think an interesting sub-theme popping up here is the idea of aquisition. I currently work at a bookstore, and between discounts and stripped books (not meant for reasale) I have aquired far more then I can read within a month. Not to mention the Temple had a thread of occult PDFs that I downloaded enourmously from.

Why are we so hungry, for more information then we can handle? I bookmark web sites that are dense with information (www.themodernword.com, as an example) and then barely have time to skim them.

And then the associated guilt, for not following through with our own aquisitions. Why do we feel guilty for something that we already own?

I wonder if we are beginning to expereince, in our information-rich social structures, a certail thrill of aquisition. I had a co-worker proudly display his aquisition of Kill Bill on DVD, and it struck me that consuming has become a source of pride. Now, consuming information is somewhat more 'noble', but still an element of consumption. Any thoughts on this?

* * *

My own habits are akin to above: Some purchases made purely for my own love of the author or genre, others to bolster my library. Reference texts and plays at sale prices always drag me over to them.
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
12:29 / 09.05.04
I feel the urge to buy books for the sake of buying books, but I don't follow through on it. I buy one book at a time, read it, then return for another a week later.

I'd rather not have books on my shelf that I haven't read; it seems fake, showy. So I buy slowly.
 
 
The Strobe
16:48 / 09.05.04
I've managed to stop buying things for the hell of it. An English degree has done me pretty well on library-building, though one day I will finish off my Cambridge-edition individual volumes of Shakespeare. Nothing better than having individual volumes.

As it is, I've also stopped buying so much on a whim - I'm no longer near Galloway & Porter, a fantastic store that sold barely-damaged books for silly prices. Case in point: I have lots of Murakami still to read as they had most of the Murakami paperbacks for £2 each. Like I said: silly.

The one place I'm still dangerous in is second-hand shops. I always get fooled by them being cheap, and so will buy stuff randomly - usually just fiction to tide me over, or maybe odds and ends of art/design stuff. Charing Cross Road is a dangerous place for me to hang out. I also really love bookstalls on markets, because they're a great source of cheap paperbacks. I love cheap paperbacks - £2 for a nice book will never get passed up by me.
 
 
Olulabelle
20:35 / 09.05.04
What a lovely idea for a thread.

KCC, I think I am you. I do all those things that you do.

My buying habits are:

1/ Books I need in order to find out something (quite often plant books but recently a book on butterflies and a book on insects so I can identify creepy crawlies with my son). Skills based books come under this category too, for instance anything to do with art or design.

2/ Books for stockpiling: these are, as KCC said, books which 'go with the other ones I have' and generally include any kind of reference book which has some slightly different but still related content to another one I already own. And which I don't instantly read.

3/ Reading in bed/on the train type books which I just want to read for pleasure - often fiction, sometimes biographies or the like, mostly impulse purchased and very rarely from Amazon.

4/ Books which I think I should just have because they are classics and everyone should own a copy. I am worst in this category with Penguin Fiction. Why do I think I need a paperback copy of Jude the Obscure? Why?

5/ Books which are so lovely they captivate me, and even though I know they are completely useless I still have to have them. These tend to be big picture laden coffee table books such as Meetings With Remarkable Trees.

6/ Books which my son might need soon, or that I think he will like to read now. Or that I want him to read now, or which I want him to need soon.

7/ Presents for people. These are books I can't justify buying for myself but that desperately need to be bought, so I buy them for people I know. Either that or someone I know mentions a book they want to read and I have to go and buy it for them just so I get that 'bought a book, wow!' feeling.

I am scary in bookshops, and I have recently turned off Amazon one-click so I have to really look at the price of a book before I buy it. I also have a horrible leaning towards haunting antique bookshops in order to buy original stained Mrs Beeton cookbooks and the like.

I need to be stopped. Really I do. I currently have at least 20 books which I want to read but haven't started yet and I don't even want to count the number of reference books which I've only ever opened once.
 
 
illmatic
14:05 / 10.05.04
Hermes: I wonder if we are beginning to expereince, in our information-rich social structures, a certail thrill of aquisition. I had a co-worker proudly display his aquisition of Kill Bill on DVD, and it struck me that consuming has become a source of pride. Now, consuming information is somewhat more 'noble', but still an element of consumption. Any thoughts on this?

Totally with you on this. I think this is how consumption works. It's consumption for it's own sake, the satisfaction derieved from spending and acquiring, rather than any use or utility value derived from the objects involved. I actually think it's part of human nature to be eternally disatisfied and chasing after the next thing, and I think this is played out in consumerism. I always come back to this quote when thinking about these matters:

We humans have the capacity to create ever more elaborate products and services. We believe in their (our) promise that they will eventually satisfy our desire once and for all. Yet, elusively, they never do. As the psychoanalyst, Jacques Lacan, pointed out, no sooner do we possess our fantastical object of desire than the fantasy dissipates and it becomes an ordinary object again. The spell is broken, and desire passes on to a new object.

From here.

Anyway, this is all getting rather heavyweight for a flufferly discussion on book purchases. Interestingly, a few of the music blogs recently have been commenting about what they call the "IPodisation of music" which is with the advent of filesharing having more music than you can listen to. Probably soemthing for a different thread, there's a couple of threads on consumption and the mechanics thereof.

Possibly because I don't earn enough money to really indulge myself elsewhere, books are one of the few areas I do this. I'm reasonable sane here, but do end up acquiring more than I can read. I'm not that fussed about collecting novels, happy to scab 'em off other people, or use the library. Books outside my main areas of interest, I acquire a few, but I do have a fair to middling collection of occult books which I ponder over and read and re-read. I haven't been adding to this as much as I used to as I have deluded fantaises about reading every significant text in certain areas of academia that I have an interest in, and most of my "key" purchasing is directed here. I can't see me doing all this reading though, without becoming a professor.

Oh, and second hand bookshops... sheer joy. Though responsible for nuff unread tomes on my shelves.
 
 
Squirmelia
11:50 / 11.05.04
I don't really buy that many books, because I tend to use the library a lot or borrow from friends.

If there is a book that sounds amazing that the library doesn't have, I will probably buy it. I often find that my local bookshops don't have the books that I want, so I have to either order online (I only tend to do this if I know for certain I will like the book) or travel to another city to buy what I want, which tends to limit impulse-buying.

I end up storing the books I buy at my parents' house, because I don't have room for them, so I'd like to purchase less books, but for the library to purchase more.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:41 / 12.05.04
I have lots of Murakami still to read as they had most of the Murakami paperbacks for £2 each. Like I said: silly.

That's not silly, it's very sensible. Murakami hasn't actually penned a terrible book yet so you're getting a mad amount of quality for £2 each. No way is that silly.
 
 
sine
18:31 / 13.05.04
I am utterly in league with Erasmus:

"When I get a little money I buy books; and if any is left, I buy food and clothes."

Hence, I barely ever buy food and own almost nothing except the shelves upon shelves upon piles upon boxes of beautiful books...I suspect that if my habit worsens much, I could actually classify as an obsessive bibliophile, one of those nutters who fills their apartment with books and papers right up to the ceiling so that it ends up looking like a crawl space, and Ted Koppel has to clamber and scrabble over mounds of old National Geographic and Everyman editions to interview me.
 
 
sine
18:33 / 13.05.04
olulabelle: your list reminded me pleasantly of Italo Calvino's intro to If on a winter's night a traveller. Know it?
 
 
The Strobe
19:58 / 13.05.04
The other reason I love books is that I honestly believe they decorate a room; a room without books feels empty. I don't buy books just to put on shelves - but this is one reason I don't feel guilty about not reading them. I'm just glad they're there; I'm glad I'll get to read them some time soon.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
10:59 / 14.05.04
I seem to buy books on the assumption that they're just going to disappear if I don't. This might be because most of what I buy is second hand, so there's generally only one copy of the book I'm looking at in the shop. However, the feeling that I have to buy that right now is generally completely untempered by the knowledge that trod-upon copies of Madame Bovary are not really *that* thin on the ground.

Like Paleface, though, I just like knowing that they're there, and that there's going to be something in the house for me to read when I finish whatever I'm reading now.
 
 
Trijhaos
17:05 / 14.05.04
I buy books because I have the means to do so now. I used to have to scrimp and save just to buy a paperback, but now I can go out and plunk down $30 on the newest bestseller on the day of it's release if I wanted to.

My major downfall are bargain books. I'll buy books I wouldn't normally even give a second glance, let alone read if it's on the clerance rack. I save over 50% off the cover price. How can I go wrong?

I don't even bother checking the library anymore. Even if they have records of the books I want, they end up being stolen or missing.
 
 
Unencumbered
09:11 / 17.05.04
I'm completely unable to walk past a book shop without going in, even if I've just been in a different one, and also unable to go into a book shop without buying at least one book. This occasionally leads to me having an enormous pile of new books to work through, but at least that stops me from going out and buying more - I'll happily sit at home and read whenever I have some spare time.
 
 
Looby
08:16 / 18.05.04
You all seem very mentally balanced in your attitude to books. I fear I have a problem, and have had since childhood. Basically for as long as I can remember, my books have had to be physically perfect before, during and after reading. I won't break the spine of a book and I distinctly remember being in floods of body-shaking tears aged about 8 or 9 when a favourite book of mine was "borrowed" by another child and trashed. It came back creased and battered and I was inconsolable. This terribly obsessive behaviour has survived into adulthood, and I have to really, really like someone before I'll lend them one of my books... Reading this back is scary - I must be a very odd, possesive and selfish person! Argh!
 
 
Psi-L is working in hell
10:24 / 18.05.04
I, like so many other people on here it seems, find it difficult to walk past a book shop and not walk in...and I usually come out with at least one book. For some reason, despite not having much money, I don't feel the need to have to justify spending money on books to myself, like I do on so many other purchases. This has resulted in me having many books on my shelves that I have yet to read....I think I have this romantic notion that at some point in my future I will have lots of time to sit and read them all, so any purchase now is an investment in my future.

I have a bit of a collectors mentality too though, so if I like an author I will slowly build up a collection of their other novels. I find it comforting though to know that if I need a good or more familiar read, that I'll have a book somewhere by an author I like that I've yet to read.
 
 
Olulabelle
22:26 / 18.05.04
olulabelle: your list reminded me pleasantly of Italo Calvino's intro to If on a winter's night a traveller. Know it?

Sine, no I don't. Is this another book I should add to my list?
 
 
sine
06:02 / 15.06.04
damn...been a while since I've been in Books...

the [regrettably much belated] answer is: yes. You should certainly read it. Not everyone's cuppajoe, but most of the bibliophiles I know loved it. It is a book I give as a standard gift (like The Phantom Tollbooth or Dictionary of the Khazars), for what that's worth.
 
 
spake
22:45 / 15.06.04
Cool thread.

Here's how it works for me - every wednesday night i cruise into Auckland Central and spend 3 to 4 hours in the Borders book store there, sometimes moving over to the local university bookstore if i have time. Afterwards i pop into a local steak house where my mate is the head chef for a free feed and book read.

I actually have a shopping list worked out so that i can capitalise on my time spent in the book store. That way i can avoid wandering aimlessly for hours with no idea of what i want. I also always go alone on these shopping sprees if i can help it. There is nothing worse than having someone talking to you or disturbing you while your trying to concentrate on your purchase. It's almost like someone trying to talk to you in the work lunchroom when your clearly trying to digest a book (bastards). I also glare at anyone who comes within 5 feet of me.

This is the most important ritual of my week. If i can't make it for some reason, i'm pretty much pissed for a few days and generally un-approachable. Anyone else take it this seriously? Or am i a book-nazi?
 
 
Loomis
13:17 / 08.11.05
*bump*
 
 
Katherine
14:59 / 08.11.05
I'd rather not have books on my shelf that I haven't read; it seems fake, showy. So I buy slowly.

Same here, if I have brought a number of books then they go in a pile on my desk/floor (which ever is safest from the cats) until I have read them then they go onto the book shelf.

I have found some interesting reads from charity shops or the odd clearance shelf in a store but usually I end up paying full price for a book. I prefer hardbacks in general and as usual I am on the look out for the hardbacks to replace the paperback versions I own.

I'm awaiting amazon to deliver a few books to me at the moment, but the lack of money means I can't buy any more at the moment. But then I do have loads to re-read So all is well.

And ditto to the whole book lending thing, I hate it when someone trashs a book you have lend them, folding the pages, cover and spilling something on it. I mean how much effort is it to use a bookmark or rip a bit of newspaper for a bookmark?
 
 
Tryphena Absent
15:15 / 08.11.05
my books have had to be physically perfect before, during and after reading. I won't break the spine of a book

I love breaking the spine of a book. I think that's why I like to buy them new.
 
 
Ariadne
15:36 / 08.11.05
So do I. I try not to do it to Loomis's books, but it's hard!
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:38 / 08.11.05
I don't actually understand how you can finish a hardback book without cracking the spine.
 
 
Loomis
07:40 / 09.11.05
Breaking spines is fine. Tearing half the spine away from the pages of one of one's favourite novels makes baby Jesus cry.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
08:24 / 09.11.05
I'm too frightened to figure out how many books I buy a month, but it's definitely hovering around the "LOTS" mark. (Along with DVDs, CDs and computer games. I actually think I may have a shopping problem).

Usually if I'm bored or depressed I'll go to the bookshop. And I find it very difficult to leave without having bought anything. I'll often buy books on a whim- the blurb sounds cool, or it seems to resonate with something inconsequential that I happen to have been thinking about at the time...
 
 
eye landed
10:45 / 13.11.05
im too lazy to order books i really want (since theyre never convenient). i suffer fatal doubts about buying books i sort of want, so i dont. when i see cheap books (my school has a free shelf in the bookstore, often including old dissertations, etc) i spend hours savouring synchronicities and walk out with a stack i can barely lift, let alone carry onto the bus. my life is largely defined by searching for precious floorspace between piles of pointless books, and borrowing more from the library so i dont have time to read them. i dont read much anymore because going to school has sucked all the pleasure out of it. the only time i really enjoy reading is when im shopping.

for some reason im willing to pay full price for comic books, and even order them specially, though sometimes when i order things like grant morrison i think i should give a fake name. actually, i get more funny looks from bearded old bookshop owners for taking home books on psychoanalysis than i do from comic book geeks, who are usually more interested in the latest colourful trading card game for children than whatever im buying.

im not sure when i went insane. i used to be sort of easy going and spent a lot of time reading trashy science fiction, which people gave me as gifts at every opportunity so i didnt have to spend my young selfs meagre savings. back then i compulsively collected cds, until i started stealing them and realized i liked music for all the wrong reasons.
 
 
Axolotl
10:41 / 14.11.05
I rarely buy new books at the moment, mainly due to my lack of cash, there's a list of maybe half a dozen writers whose books I buy new, everything else I'd try to get at the library.
The main source of books is therefore 2nd hand stores, of which there is many in my neighbourhood. I normally buy 1 or 2 second-hand books a week, more if I'm lucky in my searches, come to think of it, this maybe why I am permanently skint.
 
 
Unconditional Love
19:47 / 14.11.05
I buy loads of the things, read them once, then they sit on a shelf for a while, then they go to the library, library staff like me alot, really appreciative of donations, i purge 2 or 3 times a year, i keep whats still relevant or i need to see the spine of as a reminder for ideas.

The thing i like about donating to the local library is i can always after a few months go back to the book for reference, even if its out of the county its still there somewhere. i keep books for things i couldnt remember otherwise and also tend to work on the basis of if its useful it will stay or appear in another form, if not, no bother not needed.

I also see it as a way of spreading information into my local community, and occasionally look in the books ive donated to see how many have been reading, theres some satisfaction to know other people enjoy what you enjoy.
 
  
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