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Dos Semanas en Mexico...

 
 
Baz Auckland
03:50 / 26.04.04
Heya,

On a rather spur-of-the-moment thingie, it seems I'm going to Mexico for a few weeks next month.

NOW: Given that I have two weeks to spend in Mexico City, Chiapas, and the Yucatan, can anyone give some reccomendations?

Is Chiapas worth seeing?
Is San Cristobal de las Casas?
Is Palenque the best lost city in the jungle?
Is it better to spend time here, than going up to the Yucatan? (and Mérida, Chichen Itza, etc.)

Any tips would be welcome
 
 
Jester
07:24 / 26.04.04
Oh, I did just that trip basically, this Febuary

It's all great. We liked Mexico city best of all, actually. Check out all the murals, and the parks, etc. And the tequila.

San Cristobal is very pretty, but incredibly touristy, in that backpacker way. But there are also tour buses of americans. There is a REALLY nice Indian restaurant there, which you'll probably be given fliers for... (there's only one in town). It does some excellent banana dishes.

Palenque is, again, pretty but touristy. It's kind of amazing, but the impression is lessened because of the tourist influx. I love mayan ruins, so I dug it, but it depends on your opinion on such things. Bring bug repellent. Palenque town is hideous, but much more modern than San Cristobal.

Going to see the waterfalls (Agua Azul, etc), really is extremely cool, but, again, totally on the backpacker route.

Driving through Chiapas (in a bus, in our case) was probably the best part. Also the forests, which are jungles really, are really amazing.

So, yes, highly recommended, but with the proviso you don't mind a certain amount of 'we've all got the lonely planet mexico' encounters, et al.

Also, learn some spanish before hand, if you don't already know some, or you will find it hard to get around, especially in Chiapas. Basically, it means you are confining yourself to stuff that doesn't involve communication, and therefore can't 'do it yourself' so much.

But, have fun in Mexico
 
 
grant
17:21 / 26.04.04
I never made it to the jungle (drove from Houston to Mazatlan to see a solar eclipse), but loved the advice in The People's Guide to Mexico. I've used the hand-language lessons in my day-to-day life more often than I can count.

I can't remember whether this tip came from there or elsewhere, but if you're driving and seeking cheap road lodging, pack a sleeping bag/blanket and sleep in the trash dumps outside small towns. They're actually really clean -- no food wasted, desert evaporates all moisture -- and it's public land that no one minds you sacking out on.
 
 
Baz Auckland
02:32 / 27.04.04
Hey! I used to live in Mazatlan! Nice sunsets, but not a incredibly fun place to spend 5 months...

Thanks for the People's Guide links.. I'll check out their book at work tomorrow...
 
 
dirty toes
11:18 / 27.04.04
i was in chiapas at the end of a three month jaunt earlier this year. i basically did a big circle starting in cancun, (bares teeth and makes 'get thee hence, satan' motions with crossed fingers) travelling down into guatemala, heading up to oaxaca and then through chiapas back to cancun again.

my advice:

if youve only got two weeks, stick to mexico city, possibly oaxaca and chiapas. dont bother with trying to fit the yucatan in- as beautiful as the beaches are its way more 'touristy'* than chiapas; comparitively pricier and not as interesting (although i had a lot of time for merida as a city after the spring break atmosphere of much what i saw of the yucatan). moreover, a girl i travelled with had taken two weeks to get from DF to cancun and said that half of it was spent on night buses and the other half rushing around half-awake trying to 'fit everything in' in an LP best-of stylee.

by the time i got to san cristobal i was knackered and wanted to go home, so i'm not really the best person to ask about it- although, having said that, some of the best nights out i had were in a club round the corner from the main square, watching young mexicans leap around to mexska fusion bands/ doing the salsa/ dancing to 50 cent/ getting drunk and doing what young people do- if thats your bag. the canyon trip is pretty ace and can be done independently if you dont want to shell out for a guided tour, but my spanish really wasnt up to it. likewise with the tours to san juan chamula, the place where they do the crazyfascinating rituals with chickens and coca cola and stuff. oh, and take warm things with you- it can get really really chilly up in them thar mountains.

palenque is pretty fly- don't stay in palenque town if you can avoid it, there are some cabana-type places in the jungle on the road to the ruins which are, again, fairly touristy but you're sleeping in the jungle and can hear monkeys and stuff which i personally enjoyed seven shades out of. its not the best lost city in the jungle afaic, that would be tikal, which has that whole Rebel Base thing going on. but if you cant get to guatemala then palenque will suffice fairly adequately.

oaxaca is a fantastic city- i was there for christmas and it rocks bells. the cathedral is literally breathtaking, monte alban is fascinating in comparison to the mayan ruins, and i ate some of the best street food of my whole trip there- not including chapulines but they combine rather well with mezcal in the 'remind me why im ingesting this again' stakes.

i know nothing about mexico city but that everyone i met who went there absolutely adored it, very often contrary to expectations.

having said all of this, i did my trip very much from a backpackers, on-the-beaten-track perspective and im not ashamed of that per se- it was my first extended trip away on my own, my spanish sucked, and im a lone female traveller with all the added circumspection that entails. that said, i cannot emphasise how much i regret trying to get by on basic espanol- generally the mexicans fucking rock as a people and i could kick myself for tying my own hands when it came to communicating with them and reducing my own ability to strike out.

babble babble babble oh, have i mentioned how jealous i am. its a beautiful, beautiful part of the world and the minute i can afford to go back there i will.

* and i italicise touristy because im uncomfortable with its subtext as i often saw it of richer, more american, and substantially less culturally sensitive than i am- usually coming from people who were still spending the equivalent of the average mexican salary in a day or less and walking around in tanktops and shorts.
 
 
Baz Auckland
12:51 / 27.04.04
I wish I had an extra week so I could see Mérida, but ah well... I've been to Oaxaca before, and I loved it. I missed out Chiapas and the Yucatan last time, so I want to at least see Chiapas...

Mexico City rocks like nothing else. I'm thinking of:

Mexico City -> San Cristobal -> Palenque -> Villahermosa -> Veracruz -> Mexico City

as a rough plan, the only downside being the 19 hours from Mexico City to Chiapas... and the 38 hours of bus travel in a two-week trip...
 
  
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