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"You've got me... who's got YOU?!"

 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
18:30 / 23.04.04
An issue occurs to me in relation to my magickal practices that may be irrelevant, or at least not worth devoting much RAM to, but which I think all of us at all interested in The Craft (or whatever your preferred monicker) can benefit by. I suppose it's quite epistomological, and as such no definitive answer can be known, but I'm interested on individual takes on the concept.

Much of the technique I employ in my most frequent ritual involves a good amount of chance, mitigated by information I choose using my conscious, subconscious and unconscious minds. Obviously, this cannot be regarded as entirely random, though where my direct involvement in the process ends it would certainly seem to lack any immediately discernible logic. (My apologies that I can't go into much more detail about the process itself; as I wrote in the Magical Secrecy thread, my partner is uncomfortable with me discussing the specifics, even within a sympathetic context.)

My question then is this: with the intentional, implied, encoded, abstracted and utterly random elements of this ritual combined, coupled with similar properties involved with whatever happens with the end product from my side once encountered by an anonymous other in an unknown context, how much of my will is involved, and how much is something else working through the components I employ, myself as a mediating factor, the one most immediately impacted by these choices, and the resulting behavior and choices made as a result of their unwitting participation? Or, if I am supposing that this will in some Rube Goldbergian way make a desired impact, is it I who has willed it so, or is it the closed system within which this has all occurred used me as its tool?

Circles within circles within... oy, I'm dizzy.

VJB2
 
 
rising and revolving
13:07 / 25.04.04
Your will, the will of the closed system, the will of the world. If the outcome is the same regardless, well, that's interesting in and of itself, methinks.

Are you saying that you're doing the ritual *without* a willed result? Or, I guess, that the willed result is "for a random result to occur, from within this set"? If so, then there's no doubt your 'will' is not working in the classic sense.

but then, that leads into interesting questions of allowing the will to unfold despite the concious mind, which I am in no way qualified to discuss. Which I guess leaves me going "I'm not quite sure where you're coming from, or where you're going. But it sounds pretty cool."

So yeah. Does sound cool, but!
 
  
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