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Orbital are chimed out

 
  

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uncle retrospective
19:52 / 21.04.04
From Loopz

After 15 years working together as Orbital, Paul and Phil Hartnoll have announced that their forthcoming LP the “Blue Album” will be their last. Following the album’s release on 21st of June, Orbital will play Brixton Academy on 25th of June followed by their last ever English live show, closing the second stage on Sunday June 27th at Glastonbury.

“I think we feel that Orbital has run it’s course,” says Paul Hartnoll. “We’re both pursuing different avenues with our music. And we’ve been sat, as brothers, in the same room for 15 years now–and studios are always confined spaces–I think it’s time for a change.”

*Sniff* Now it may be that I'm only posting this for Saz's benefit but, well, I'm sad. They are my favourite band, they showed me that dance music wasn't all shite after all, I've had some of the best nights of my life at their gigs.
And their going.

15 years is a long time to be in a band though so fair play hope they have a lot of success in the future.
And a new album. Yea!
And! I have a Glastonbury ticket! I'll be front and centre for the blow out. Kick ass!
 
 
40%
20:25 / 21.04.04
Hey! I love Orbital! I've downloaded all of their songs!

Actually, I own more CDs by them than by anyone else. And they are one of those groups that affects your perception of music in a lasting way.

It seems a slightly odd thing to announce breaking up before releasing an album. Almost makes you hope that the blue album will be slightly disappointing, so as to vindicate their decision. If it's amazing, won't it be a slightly hollow victory?

Their last couple of albums (I'm thinking of The Middle of Nowhere and The Altogether, I haven't heard Octane - what's that like?) kinda suggest that they're winding down. But could they get a second wind? If they think not, then I guess not. I think I'll definitely buy the new album, out of respect for them at this time if nothing else.
 
 
Sax
14:03 / 22.04.04
Wow. I knew this was coming anyway but... wow.

Must get tickets for the Brixton jobby.
 
 
The Strobe
11:27 / 23.04.04
I think they were beginning to wind down, anyway. Middle of Nowhere is one of my favourites of their albums; it's very strong to my mind, and nice and consistent. Perhaps less dancy - veers towards songwriting with things like Otono, but great stuff. I STILL need to pick up brown and green at some point. Work was a bit of filler, really - some nice stuff on there but mainly for completists or people wanting to sample the band.

The winding down thing comes from The Altogether, which I found quite weak (though I always liked Funny Break and have a REALLY big softspot for Illuminate). Haven't listened to it for a while, but it never really grabbed me. It certainly was a drop in standards, which I think has been ongoing. In Sides and MoN really are - for some bizarre reason that most other people disagree on - the highpoint for me. They're running out of ideas, really; some of their sounds are beginning to sound worn out, especially the characteristic chiming 4th and 5th leads they love so much. It's the end of an era, but I think it's probably run its course. At least it was brilliant whilst it lasted.

Also, I saw them on the tour of the Altogether, and whatever criticisms I had above disappear live. They're absolutely storming. Might seriously consider a Brixton ticket.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
11:38 / 23.04.04
I recently got The Altogether and was surprised by how good it was, as when it originally came out I thought it was shit. Yes, the version of the Doctor Who theme was a bit ropey (I'm sure I've heard live versions that were a lot more exciting and fun) and yes, the last track does have David Grey on it but it's all surprisingly pleasant.

In my view, the albums got better and better leading up to In Sides which I consider their definitive album. The Middle of Nowhere starts very strongly with tracks that sound like more of the same, but then trails off, ending weakly with that tune with the sampled bagpipes. The Altogether in terms of quality is probably between the brown album and Snivilization, though it could have done with a few more dancier tracks a la Lush.

I think they are probably right to bring Orbital to an end, I'll wait and listen to the album before I decide whether they're going out on a high or have left it to late.

And how many times have Madness done their last ever concerts?
 
 
Sax
11:49 / 23.04.04
Apparently there's a big sample of Christopher Eccleston from The Second Coming on one of the new tracks. Worth the price of admission for that alone, I reckon.
 
 
40%
17:18 / 23.04.04
Middle of Nowhere and The Altogether seem to be the only albums drawing any debate. The rest are just plain smashes. Middle of Nowhere is kinda technically as good as In Sides, but it just doesn't feel as meaningful to me. But Insides is one of those albums that demonstrates the importance of starting and ending well. If you do those things, pretty much anything in the middle can be forgiven.
 
 
kosmonaut
17:33 / 23.04.04
A sad day, even if I didn't bother with The Altogether.

Still, I can't imagine working with my brother for 15 years.
 
 
The Natural Way
18:09 / 23.04.04
Sadly, I couldn't really give a fuck. Coffee table/Old, chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilled out raver dance. Nasty.

"What does God think?"

He thinks you should stop making horrible Glasto-Jungle and you should probably split up. Which is what yr doing. Great. I'm down with God.

I loved 'Chime' once (and it still rocks TBH), but all the other "classics" - 'Satan', 'Belfast', etc - ceased to do it for me a long time ago (esp 'Belfast' - just sounds like overblown crap now. Should be on a "powerful" advert for mobile phones).
 
 
The Strobe
21:41 / 23.04.04
Dang, Spalliance, you really need to see them live. And then you'd understand that they're definitely not coffee table raver music
 
 
40%
21:43 / 23.04.04
"What does God think?"

Um, it's 'what does God say?' actually. Which is slightly less crap.
 
 
The Knights Templar Boogie Machine
23:24 / 23.04.04
..Should have quit after the brown album.....The much hyped orbital glasto experience leaves a lot to be desired...
 
 
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11:45 / 24.04.04
Well... I've got mixed feelings about this. I used to love Orbital. All the early albums were classics. Insides was just great. The Middle Of Nowhere (did anyone-else used to call this "The White Album"? And was the first album green or yellow?) was pretty good, but had rather a bit too much going on. Generally that's Orbital's biggest flaw, never knowing when to stop layering the tracks up and up. I think of it as "Cubase Syndrome" - all those dance bands used to using a couple of 303s and an 808, suddenly they get Cubase and it's like being in a sweetshop, they just can't help indulging themselves and laying more and more tracks on top of each other. See the late eighties too RE: synth-pop bands and cheap samplers.

Anyway... Then along came The Altogether. And frankly, the brothers Orbital were taking the piss. Yes.

"We're Orbital, we're at the peak of our success, let's put out a load of pish - we won't have to work hard on making great music any more, and I bet everyone still buys it!"

"But will anyone get the joke? How will they know we're winding them up?"

"I know, let's get someone really naff to guest on one of the tracks... How about David Gray?"

So Orbital. I loved you once. But good riddance!
 
 
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11:47 / 24.04.04
And yes, they were good live. But then I'm a bit biased, since I saw them at Tribal Gathering '97 back to back with Kraftwerk, so it was going to be a good night whatever.
 
 
Sax
12:10 / 24.04.04
An Ox, dot and Knight's Templar: You will die. Painfully. Horribly.
 
 
40%
13:19 / 24.04.04
Maybe an O'Brien style reconditioning is more in order. There may be good in them yet.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
13:23 / 24.04.04
Yes, put them in room one with a cage around their heads and have David Grey and Danniel Beddingfield let loose, that'll soon turn them round. After the Brown album they weren't doing dance music any more so much as electronica, which I think appeals depending on what your tastes are. I heard them do Chime once at new years (I think it was '99) and they had Big Ben sampled, then turned it into Chime, simple idea, brilliantly executed.
 
 
The Natural Way
18:25 / 24.04.04
I've heard that, actually. It was pretty cool, wasn't it?

Anyway, I have seen them live and it was fine and all that, but, y'know, yr never actually going to convince me that Orbital...err..."rock".

Um, it's 'what does God say?' actually. Which is slightly less crap.

Still a crap tune though. That album confirmed utter crapness for me, I'm afraid. For indie kids who needed the NME to tell them it was okay to like jungle.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:02 / 24.04.04
That's Snivilization, isn't it? That one always struck me as particularly weak. Embarrassing, even.

Brown was an important album for me - you know how you have certain records that mark a point in your listening? They may not change anything, they may not be introducing you to anything new, but they seem to come along at a point in yr life where they take on an extra importance.

In Sides is by far their best, imo, which is strange as it's totally inconsistent in terms of quality. Starts off brilliantly, becomes a drudge as soon as the first track ends, then keeps on swapping between aces and aceholes. Out There Somewhere? is one of their best. Like I said last time an Orbital discussion rolled around, it sounds like War of the Worlds condensed into ten minutes for the first half, then when the second part kicks in it turns out that the Martians have kidnapped us to take us on a trip through 2001's stargate. Progbollocks? Maybe. I don't care.

I think a lot of their stuff's aged badly, and that's maybe why they've been on a downward spiral for years. Even the bits I still like sound... past it, when I listen with a more critical ear. That and the fact that they appeared to consciously buy in to the whole 'dance music for indie kids' image. Snivilization makes me think of nothing so much as the way Bowie always grabs ahold of whatever the Kids are listening to at the time in a desperate attempt to make himself seem relevant.

And Middle of Nowhere failed to stick in my mind at all. After that, I lost all interest in them.
 
 
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13:31 / 26.04.04
I think it makes me quite sad too, that people who don't like dance music wandered through HMV, picked up The Altogether (after all, it's Orbital innit? The dance music it's OK to like) listened to it, and then decided that they definitely didn't like dance music.

In terms of this sort of stuff not having aged well... I guess that's true up to a point, but for comparison, I reckon the first two Underworld albums still sound pretty fresh, so at least some mid-nineties dance music has stood the test of time.
 
 
The Natural Way
15:33 / 29.04.04
I think a lot of their stuff's aged badly, and that's maybe why they've been on a downward spiral for years. Even the bits I still like sound... past it, when I listen with a more critical ear. That and the fact that they appeared to consciously buy in to the whole 'dance music for indie kids' image. Snivilization makes me think of nothing so much as the way Bowie always grabs ahold of whatever the Kids are listening to at the time in a desperate attempt to make himself seem relevant

Thanks for expressing my sentiments so eloquently, Randy. Orbital were good at the time (well, pre-Snivilisation, anyway), but over time they've begun to sound dated, dull and increasingly irrelevant. Bit like FSOL.
 
 
uncle retrospective
11:21 / 01.05.04
Well I've just downloaded the new album, and well, it's a lot more chilled out than I was hoping for. There's some good stuff here (and I've only had one listen) but I was hoping for something a bit stompy. The stand out so far is Acid pants, the track with Sparks. The Orbital drum patterns, Sparks weirdness and someone trying to use a 303 like a thermin. But a few more listens are needed.
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:35 / 02.05.04
Is it anywhere that doesn't need a login or software to download?
 
 
uncle retrospective
22:28 / 10.05.04
SO I've spent the last while giving the album some time, and it's pretty good. As you'll see from my post above it's not an instant album but I've worked out why I wasn't blown away. For some weird reason the H brothers decided to go back to the Green album and as a result it's odd. The tunes are very simple, no complex, well anything going on. You Lot reminds me of Belfast, One Perfect Sunrise with Lisa Gerrard is more a summer trance track than I expected. The winner is the track with Sparks, Acid Pants. It's aimed at playing live. When the laugh track starts then the fun starts.

Hoary! They don't go on a whimper. Bring on Glastonbury!
 
 
Glandmaster
01:58 / 11.05.04
Cool thanks for the heads up - downloading now!

See you at the front at glasto - Im the one dressed as a sailor ;0p
 
 
Glandmaster
12:57 / 11.05.04
OK downloaded into me PC unt uploaded into me brain-wrong.

OMFG acid pants...the fire works...

Petty Orifacer Glandmaster will be needing more than his fair share of pear cider this year...
 
 
Our Lady Has Left the Building
17:20 / 11.05.04
Where did you d/load from?
 
 
Glandmaster
12:21 / 12.05.04
eMule.

Oh btw there arnt any fireworks on Acid Pants - my rat had chewed part of the way through my sub woofer cable causing it to pop...really fitted with the song but I havnt tried to recreate this as I dont want to fry ;0p
 
 
Sax
07:25 / 21.06.04
For anyone who (like me) hasn't downloaded the album, it's out today on the old-fashioned CD format.

And I've got my tickets for Friday!
 
 
uncle retrospective
11:24 / 21.06.04
Well I hope you have those dancin' shoes broken in. I'm just hopeing that it's not going to rain on Sunday (the weather is looking bad).
But the album is great. Tell us what you recon to it after a few listens.
 
 
Sax
11:28 / 21.06.04
Playing it right now, plugged into the PC at work. First impressions: Transient, hmm, bit quiet, hope this picks up... Pants... like it, nice circular hook... Tunnel Vision - nice and dark with a lovely multi-layered (as ever) melody hiding in the depths... Lost - washed over me a bit (someone was talking to me)... You Lot - fucking genius, raised the hackles on the back of my neck... Bath Time... Should have got Brian Cant in again... Acid Pants - just started - fuckin' hell...

Are you at Brixton, then, uncle, or Glasto all weekend?
 
 
Glandmaster
20:25 / 07.07.04
Anyone else go to glasto and wish they had taken a bottle of hot piss to the orbital gig? What a let down 'your terrific!!!'

Bye then...

It was a dire gig to promote thier last album which is interesting considering they promised on thier own web shite and in the music press to give a good account of thier past hits for thier last appearance.

Oh well at least oasis were pants too by all accounts - I like watching the chav suffer ;0p
 
 
Not Here Still
17:01 / 08.07.04
I've a choice between Orbital and the Pixies this weekend.

I'm going for the Pixies, on the assumption that Orbital will reform. And that I've seen them before, but I've never seen the Pixies....
 
 
uncle retrospective
14:18 / 09.07.04
Jesus, go and see the Pixies. Even if you'd never seen Orbital before see the Pixies.

Glandmaster, you though the gig was that bad? I thought it was a bit chilled out, (I had some amazing pills so things are a bit blury) but was good none the less. I though they only played 2 songs from the new album. And no Acid Pants.


Sax, how was Brixton?
 
 
Sax
14:40 / 09.07.04
Brixton was phenomenal, actually, uncle. They did about two-and-a-half hours, and it was a total greatest hits performance. First hour's a bit lost in the fog, but classic renditions of stuff like Impact, Halcyon+on+on, Chime. I think they played Lush, my mate thinks they didn't. I'd like to think they did. New album material was kept to a minimum, though You Lot was rocking.
 
  

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