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Benny the Ball

22:50 / 19.04.04

Okay, so "I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League" is due out in the next few months, and "Formerly Known As The Justice League" worked okay, but anybody read Punx?

Wasn't it great?

How many issues did you manage to get before your comic dealer (notice that they are called dealers, not providers or something positive, but dealers, it's a drug!) said, yeah, whatever, look at the latest issue of x-cocks it rocks or something like that?

ONLY NICE THINGS

07:11 / 20.04.04

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Cheers.

Benny the Ball

09:59 / 20.04.04

Sorry, I was drunk.

And it's KEITH Giffen, not Steve.

Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!

10:40 / 20.04.04

Just to mention: I moved this to be deleted, mainly because to me it made no sense! I can see we've resolved it now, though, so woop-de-doo!

We should have rules about posting drunk, or something.

Ah, we've all done it.

Matthew Fluxington

11:08 / 20.04.04

I love Giffen's work on the Legion Of Superheroes the most, particularly his early 90s run with Tom & Mary Bierbaum. I'm still convinced that that period of the Legion is among the best sci-fi/superhero comics ever made.

Pants Payroll

13:52 / 20.04.04

Also very cool was the Dr. Fate backups he did with Marty Pasko in The Flash in the 80's. I would love to see those collected. er...mostly 'cause i cant be bothred to track down back issues of the Flash...

Benny the Ball

14:16 / 20.04.04

Bit soberer now. Ted Kord was one of the greatest and most rounded (he he, literally sometimes, he he - or rather, bwha ha ha) comic book characters ever. What Giffen, and De Mattis did with the JL JLI/JLA/JLE books was fantastic, and a little ignored now days. Any one who didn't read this series back in the 80's should try and get ahold of a copy of the New Begining collection. It truely is beautifully written and fantastic art from Kevin Maguire to make comic book characters actually real, rather than real in that grim gritty and sweary way that is so cool now-a-days.

But Punx, did anybody read PUNX?

Solitaire Rose as Tom Servo

14:48 / 20.04.04

Hey Pants...

They did collect those stories in a "Dr Fate" mini-series back in the mid 80's. I doubt you'll find it without looking real hard, since the reprints didn't sell all that well, and most stores didn't stock any as back issues, bt they are on much better paper and have the whole run in about two or three issues.

Yotsuba & Benjamin!

16:56 / 20.04.04

I count Ambush Bug and The Heckler among my most prominent inspirations. It's some of my favorite "funny book" stuff of all time. Trencher wasn't too bad either. I also love his Leigon work. Quite the versatile gentlemen, and I've always had a soft spot for his art style.

Benny the Ball

18:27 / 20.04.04

Ambush Bug was great. Heckler I wasn't sure of, would have prefered to see a Creeper series instead. Trencher was great fun. I loved his shaded faces art. Legion, I always think of him first as the man who had all those characters and maded them all unique and individual.

Haus of Mystery

18:41 / 20.04.04

Yeah for a while Giffen was the man, but he can't seem to score a hit at the present. Reign of The Zodiac? Sorry mate, but no...

Haus of Mystery

18:42 / 20.04.04

Oh yeah - I fucking hate Lobo, so that's another tick in the Bad Books.

Pants Payroll

13:34 / 21.04.04

.They did collect those stories in a "Dr Fate" mini-series back in the mid 80's. I doubt you'll find it without looking real hard, since the reprints didn't sell all that well, and most stores didn't stock any as back issues, bt they are on much better paper and have the whole run in about two or three issues.

Thanks for the heads up. I had no idea that stuff had been collected! I'll have to have a look around this weekend. *rubs hands with glee*

Bed Head

13:56 / 21.04.04

Cripes, I’m such a geek. I actually have bothered to track down the specific issue of The Flash with the Giffen Dr Fate backup stories, and yes, they really do rock six ways from Christmas, every last one of them. I dug JLI at the time. But I don’t think that that had too much to do with Giffen, to be honest. It had some truly awful fill-in artists, but generally great art, first from Maguire, then Templeton, and then some fan-fucking-tastic issues by Adam Hughes, before he became the cheesecake-generating machine he is now.

Giffen on The Legion of Superheroes: feh - the only issues of Legion anyone needs are the ones drawn by James Sherman in his astonishing, jaw-dropping, 1970s proto-manga glam ultrastyle. Because they’re actually the greatest comics ever. Next to them, Giffen and anybody else just looks a bit shoddy. I reckon.

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