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The Novels of Daren King

 
 
miss wonderstarr
11:32 / 18.04.04
JIM GIRAFFE and BOXY AN STAR are two of the most interesting, endearing and laff-out-lol novels of the last few years -- not least because they are a kind of science fiction.

Have you read them? if so let me know and I will give you my view, then you can give yours! &c

in space no-one can hear space man in space scream in space.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
19:21 / 18.04.04
Fancy telling us a bit more about them and why you liked them, kovacs?
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
19:55 / 18.04.04
Absolutely loved Boxy An Star - the way he portrays his two chief protagonists, imbuing their drug-addled empty-headedness with a pure naivety, you just can't help but love them.

In fact, I loved that book so much that my first ever fictionsuit on Barbelith was called 'Spangle', named after the fictional pill that Boxy & Star keep popping.

Great book. Wickedly inventive prose and extremely funny. Highly recommended.

Thanks for pointing me to his other book; I wasn't even aware he'd written one.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
22:20 / 18.04.04
Yes, I will do, Tanntamount. But I think I might do it tomorrow, OK? Because I'll have to get the books from next door and do it properly. However, now my thread has had replies, I will make an effort.
 
 
miss wonderstarr
10:47 / 19.04.04
Well, my spark has been damped a little because I read a further chapter of Jim Giraffe last night and it didn't even raise a smile -- it came across like poo-bum naughty kids' fiction. This may possibly be because I heard recently that King is going to be writing children's books next, and I started seeing Jim Giraffe in that mode.

However, for a good 50 pages this line in cheeky snap-back humour was working great for me. The Giraffe of the title is a ghost who steps out of the protagonist's wardrobe, like a bestial, scatalogical, priapic version of something in A Christmas Carol -- his project is to raise the standard of the guy's lovelife.


Test #1: Would You Like Jim Giraffe? (book not giraffe himself)


Protagonist is Scott Spectrum. One of his friends is called Vic Twenty. If this appeals to you, READ ON!

Test #2

This bit made me laffe so much on the train I had to put the book away.

Scott: "You believe that the existence of God is not provable."

"Put it this way. If he does exist," Jim says, twitching his ears, "He's a bum chum."

"A what?"

"A bum chum. A poof."

"You can't say that."

"Bearded cunt."



Test #3

Scott writes for the (fictional) Science Fiction Channel. His fans wear holographic t-shirts showing the channel's main character, Space Man In Space.

If a T-shirt wearer were to turn round, we would be able to read the slogan: In Space, No One Can Hear Space Man In Space Scream In Space. I thought that up. Catchy.

If the above has no appeal to U, I would suggest U do not read this book. Because it doesn't seem to get better than that. It may indeed get worse!



+-+-+-+-BOXY AN STAR+-+-+-+-

This earlier novel was also uneven for me, as it took me about four chapters to even begin enjoying it. This was even true on the second reading, when you would have thought I'd be able to get into the style and swing of it right away -- but again, I only found it irritating until a key scene where it all clicked and started winning me over bigtime.

Bole and Star are

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kids of about 14 -- their age is revealed late on -- who have a babyishly rampant sexual relationship and take tons of mindbending drugs. The story is related by Bole, who can't keep his thoughts in order too well.

It gets lighter now the sun comin orange in thru the up blown curtains the wind liftin em. Star sleepin next to me with her tee shirt pulled up her tummy mucky coz of me my trouble monkey. It is spring. Me pacin up an down the room toin an a throwing. Tryin and rememberin stuff.

&c.

Personally I don't have tons of time for the mundane life story of young teens fucking and spangling their brains through chemicals, so it took a while to win me over.

Where it kicked in for me was around the chapter "Danny Striker", where we hear King's talent with other voices as well as Bole's slightly monotonous, fragmented ramblings. There's also a sense of irony edging in as we realise how other people see the situation and have a dual-vision, understanding both Bole's touchingly addled perception and the weary irritation with which other people treat him and Star. You start sympathising with Star and Bole more as you see them as lost souls being sent from one drug deal to another, getting ripped off and confused -- they don't even know where they live, let alone where they're going -- with only each other and their absolute romantic love as a constant.

At one point they start making an effort to keep themselves in order, Bole writing a list like an illiterate Guy Pearce in Memento:

HOW 2 DO TEH COOCKER ..
I. Get the food waht yuo warnt to eta . if
it is to be coocked yuo coock it in teh coocker.
this is how yuo coock it.
2. if it is sosorges (&i bet it is,) or sumfin waht yuo can coock in teh grill then coock it
licke this .


if you see nothing potentially funny or touching in the above... YOU MAY NOT LIKE THIS BOOK.

A reviewer describes it as part P G Wodehouse, and there are excruciatingly embarrassing social scenes, as when Bole tries to make conversation with the dad of Boxy, his black transvestite pusher friend.


"So what's it like bein black then."
Boxys dad lookin at me sayin: "What."
Me shruggin.
Boxys dad says: "What did you just say Bole."
Me shruggin. "Dunno," I say. "Jus. Askin."
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"I am jus sayin. If you are gonna be black it is alright with me. Aint it Star."
Star noddin. Doin it quick.
"We like black people we do," I say.


Finally as noted above, Boxy an Star is actually near-future sf. The two main characters are a next generation of drug users, their brains already sieved, and there's some interesting technology like solar-panel taxis and gesture-activated TVs, along with detailed, slightly-satirical kids' telly shows like Divorce Mouse and Klu Klux Kat.

You might find it SCROTUM. You might find it BALLBAG. But if you read it, you will know the difference.
 
 
William Sack
13:48 / 21.04.04
I saw King do a reading from the then work-in-progress Jim Giraffe last year. ALthough I went with a couple of people who loved Boxy an Star and who guffawed through the Jim Giraffe reading, what I heard struck me as stuff King had pulled out of his arse in a hurry while stoned. On the strength of it I didn't bother taking up my friends' enthusiastic recommendations to read Boxy an Star, but I skipped over your spoilers Kovacs just in case I change my mind. Incidentally, I recently read a review in the Independent of Jim Giraffe where the reviewer said she had been intensely irritated by the first 50 or so pages and then began to love it. May read some Darren King and then come back to this thread.
 
 
William Sack
13:59 / 21.04.04
Indie review http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/reviews/story.jsp?story=507382

(Sorry, pushed for time, sorry for not making a proper link.)
 
 
miss wonderstarr
19:21 / 21.04.04
what I heard struck me as stuff King had pulled out of his arse in a hurry while stoned.

I posted on another board, www.themoononline.com, during my reading of Jim Giraffe, and I think my comments are relevant here. I hope you don't mind me just pasting them in.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about it. I really liked the first few chapters, but there was this episode about a huge TV aerial that didn't make me laugh once, and then a hospital bit that just seemed puerile and equally unfunny.

I'm kind of mixed-up about this book. It all depends on whether I sense that King can write differently and is being clever by adopting this babyish "I can say poo" voice, or whether that's all he's capable of. I have this horrible image right now of him dashing off each chapter from the top of his head in half an hour, hardly believing his luck that this stuff he makes up as he goes along is guaranteed to be published.

To be honest, [TMO Poster's Name], it was your revelation that he's writing kids' books that twisted it for me. I started reading Jim Giraffe as a kind of lazy kids' book that relies on the fact that kids are amused by rude things happening.

~~~+UPDATE+~~~

I finished Jim Giraffe on the train. I'd had a pint of Star (?!) and a G&T but it made me laugh a couple of times again.

Still have a suspicion King could have dashed it off within a weekend. Suspect I could write a sequel myself within a week, to be honest.
 
 
William Sack
12:11 / 22.04.04
If I recall correctly, King's reading voice was fairly Playschool/Jackanory which may have been put on to accentuate the poo bum potty bearded cunt humour or it may just have been his normal voice. He actually came for a chat with one of the people I was with after the reading, and I suspect it was the latter.

I think I'm actually going to give Boxy an Star a whirl as I have heard many good things about it. I am less convinced Jim Giraffe is worth the effort from what little I know, but then again the effort wouldn't appear to be that great.
 
  
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