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Barbelith Tour Of New York City

 
  

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Lionheart
16:54 / 16.04.04
Hello, folks. Here's the deal: I met up with some of my neo-pagan friends a few days back and I've decided to host a Occult/Paranormal/Weird tour of New York City. I'm planning the whole thing as we speak. There's a Freemason lodge in Manhattan that gives out free tours. There're also Nikola Tesla's old residences. I'm trying to figure out what else I could take people to and stuff.

So here's my proposal: Us Barbelith people who can getto New York should have this sort of "day out" in our place of being. We'll be tourists in our own town. I'm not sure if I should merge the Barbelith tour with the neo-pagan tour though I'm pretty sure that it'll work out.

The date for this? I'm not sure yet. I'm waiting for warmer weather and for the winds and rains to calm down.

The question: Who's up for it?
 
 
Caleigh
17:11 / 16.04.04
i'm up for it! i propose a sunday as being both a day that most people have off AND a day that I have off.
also, since some of these people are pagans, it's not likely they will be attending xtian church ceremony.

if sunday is no good i suggest a tuesday, since that's my other day off.
 
 
PatrickMM
19:45 / 16.04.04
If it's after May 5, when I get back from college, I'd be up for it. I'm just imagining that chapter of From Hell where William Gull is showing his driver around and talking about the occult, I want to live that.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
19:37 / 20.04.04
I'm just imagining that chapter of From Hell where William Gull is showing his driver around and talking about the occult, I want to live that.

Exactly what I was thinking, you bastard. Herald Square is LOUSY with encoded meaning.

We ought to look into one of those Dark Passage tours, too, that goes into abandoned mental institutions and the like. That's Session 6 waiting to happen. Maybe also get it to coordinate with one of the open masses the OTO throws. End the day with a brick of hash at Karma or somewhere.

VJB2
 
 
Caleigh
20:09 / 20.04.04
since you suggest it, you bring the hash, and i'm there. ~
 
 
Caleigh
20:16 / 20.04.04
but really, Vlad, if you have some ideas send them to Lionheart to help him put stuff together. i did some online research and sent him links. if we pool our resources it will be that much better. 3rd mind.
 
 
Lionheart
23:06 / 20.04.04
I'll post some suggestions when I'll get home in a few hours.

My main question is:

Should we tour only Manhattan or all 5 borroughs?
 
 
Enamon
06:28 / 21.04.04
If you go to Staten Island you can visit the Antonio Meucci museum and forever know that the telephone wasn't Bell's biatch.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
11:52 / 21.04.04
I'd go, but don't expect me to be able to contribute any knowledge. Or hash.
 
 
tbedlam
16:39 / 21.04.04
ill make the journey from providence if this goes down.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
06:21 / 22.04.04
but really, Vlad, if you have some ideas send them to Lionheart to help him put stuff together. i did some online research and sent him links. if we pool our resources it will be that much better. 3rd mind.

Hash out the details, eh? Eh?

Should we tour only Manhattan or all 5 borroughs?

I thank you for not saying, "New York City or the outer boros." It always pisses me off when people regard Manhattan as city limits. "I too am from Gondahar!"

Shit, I say, if you got 'em, smoke 'em. If we can organize our movements in such a way that they are either a) geographically efficient or b) part of a mass working, all the better.

I'm strangely of the mind to check out the Museum of Sex, simply because I'm to understand it's not heavily trafficked. Maybe we can also pencil in Laser Floyd, or perhaps it's Laser Radiohead or something these days, at the Planetarium.

VJB2
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
12:07 / 22.04.04
I am unconvinced that a Gull Tour of NYC is worthwhile. I think the best paranormal stuff in NYC is totally boring to spectate. For instance, the East Houston approach to FDR Drive is a flashpoint of hatred and despair, but do you really want to hang around looking at it?

The Museum of Sex is underused because it is lame. Laser Floyd!?! Hippy!
 
 
gotham island fae
13:39 / 22.04.04
Is Sunday, 5-23 too far away for a date? If it would work for others at all, I should be there, even though plans for that trip are experiencing difficulty*. This would be a LUV-ly fortuitous date for such a city seeing. Ya know, in that, ker-aaaaazy, discordian, yet strangely predictable sort of way.



*I hate, fucking hate Mercury in retrograde.
 
 
gotham island fae
16:33 / 22.04.04
And speaking of miscommunications, I was just reminded that the workshop I'm attending that weekend is a Saturday/Sunday gig. Making my suggestion a bit silly as I'll be in the city but busy.

Yadda.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
16:47 / 22.04.04
Shit, if we're aiming for power vortices and shit like that, how do we NOT go to Ground Zero? I'd be surprised if there wasn't some insane energies floating around.

Qalyn qvetched: The Museum of Sex is underused because it is lame.

Not if you have sex in it. Do they have an orgone accumulator?

Laser Floyd!?! Hippy!

You say that as though it were a bad thing. The neo-con revisionists have gotten to you, haven't they? OUTER CHURCH! SCABBY TOUCH!!

VJB2
 
 
PatrickMM
03:12 / 23.04.04
May 23 is good for me. And laser Floyd actually sounds like it could be quite cool, I'd be down for that, hash or no hash.
 
 
Char Aina
04:08 / 23.04.04
can you guys take a wee toksik doll around with you?
'cause i really wanna come too.
please?
i promise it'll behave.
 
 
dr bunson honeydew
16:23 / 23.04.04
I'm down. I have no hash but some high-grade cannabis.
 
 
Lionheart
08:13 / 24.04.04
Late May sounds good.

Here are some ideas for the tour so far:

(I'll start off with Manhattan):

Tesla's residences and hang-puts,

Madame Blatavsky's residence(s) and hang-outs

A walk through and around the financial district. Lots of strange architecture present there. Huuuuge amount of statues and gargoyles which can only be seen if you has the chance to loop up.

A view of the city from the skyways (is that the right word?) of Hunter College.

Ground Zero.

This big Masonic Lodge on 28th street (or something like that) they give tours. Did you know that Red Skelton was a 33rd degree Freemason?

Rosicrucian, theosophical, freemason places. Maybe we'll go for Hare Krishnas, and other orders, groups, etc.

Hmm...I'm seeing a Buckminster Fuller hang-out in one of the links which Caleigh sent to me (I'll post those links up a tad bit later.)

The tilted black cube at Astor Place (one should take notice at the murals on the wall of the Astor Place station on the 6 line. One may notice the main Freemason symbol of the compass and the square, in abstract form, present as the main figures of the mural.)

There are some Native American caves up in Inwood park (waaay Northern Manhattan.)


That's about it for Manhattan (for now. Please, please, please, please post more suggestions.)

Now let's do my current place of residence...: Staten Island (also known as Richmond County):

A few things come straight off the top of my head (except for my scalp):

A native wild turkey colony at the northern location of the Staten Island University Hospital (famous for treating George Harrison.) That's right. Wild turkeys living in the wild next to a hospital.

As suggested by Enamon: The Antonio Meucci museum. First inventor of the telephone AND of the Neurophone.

The Staten Island side of the Staten Island ferry. Before construction began you could look straight up and see that the building was built with the help of the Freemasonry Lodge of New york State.

Some of you probably googled Staten Island for weird stuff and came upon reports of some abandoned monastery by Wagner College in which a monk supposedly went insane and killed the other monks. Actually it was a Catholic boys' school and then, in the 1960s, it became a Catholic retreat. I'm not really for going there cause there's not much to explore.

Hmm. I'm forgetting something. While I try to remember whjat I forgot I'll mention that the only house in New York built by Frank Lloyd Wright is in Staten Island.

Ah! I remember what I forgot now. The largest private collection of Tibetan artifacts in the Western Hemisphere is on Staten Island in our very own Tibetan museum. Worth a trip. Kinda inspires me to go to Brighton Beach andf buy ancient Tibetan artifacts at flea markets. (For those of you who don't get the semi-joke: Russia is right next to China thus there's a constant trade of goods. It's not at all unlikely that a Tibetan artifact would be brought into the former Soviet Union and then brought to the U.S. by Russian immigrants.)

There's also the Moravian Cemetary which is quite close to my house. It dates back to the early 1800s, late 1700s, and contains numerous Freemason graves. Also contains the tomb of the first robber baron: Cornelius Vanderbilt. We might want to pay a visit to there but it's up to you.

Also New York Press reported a while ago that Staten Island reportedly has a relativly large amount of Bigfoot sightings in New york State (something like 8 out of 13 sightings overall.) I'll post a link up later.

That's it for Staten Island for now. If you have any more ideas or know of any more places to go to then please, please, please post it up.

I don't know that much weird stuff in the Bronx, Queens, and Brooklyn. We can visit Lovecraft's former residence(s?) in Brooklyn and I'm pretty sure that our good old friend, Aleister Crowley, lived there for sometime as well. Also an issue of Fortean Times has some article about the Son of Sam (aka David Berkowitz) and related some info on weird paranormal stuff up in the Bronx.

If anybody has any more suggestions then please, please, please post them up!
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
03:56 / 26.04.04
What about the Cloisters up in the Bronx? Unicorn tapestries, Renaissance gardens, swimming pools. No, wait, no pools. But lots of transplanted architecture from the Middle Ages and Renaissance, sort of like the skyscraper-top castle Xanatos had in the Gargoyles cartoon.

What?

We ought to look into where the Haitian community is at in town; perhaps we could attend a Voudoun, Santeria or Yoruba ceremony. Likewise for the Ba'haiis and other amalgamated faiths. And there's the Theosophy and Scientology Centers, too.

What, Ah say, WHAT ever happened to the Magic Townhouse, eh? I think it was on the East Side in the upper 80's or 90's, but I don't think it's been there for some time. That place always struck me as having a bit more to it than just the shows.

VJB2
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
11:56 / 27.04.04
Lovecraft's wife lived on Parkside Avenue, as did Harry Houdini's brother.

I might be able to arrange a voudou thing, but it would likely cost money. Many of the practitioners are white women, you know.
 
 
Lionheart
01:21 / 10.05.04
Will post links later.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
05:05 / 16.05.04
So, um, like, will this be happening or whaaaaaa?

Be advised I am very poor right now, so many places may need to be free, extremely cheap, or footed by someone who is not me, not including me.

/+,
 
 
gotham island fae
21:44 / 17.05.04
My workshop is til 5-ish on 5-23. What kicks at 5:55 on a Sunday in the City?
 
 
Lionheart
18:48 / 22.05.04
AAagh! I don't have enough places to go to in order to have a tour tommorow. So I propose that we should have a general Barbelith meet up.

How about at alt.coffee (137 Avenue A, next to St. Mark's Place.)
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
04:11 / 23.05.04
Sort of last minute. As I say, I'm exceptionally poor, and I've got to do my working besides. See if you can't pull it together for next month.

/+,
 
 
Lionheart
16:13 / 23.05.04
So who'll be showing up? I don't want to sit there all alone.

I'll probably will hang around there until 7 or 7:30pm.

Oh, and if you don't know how I look like here's a pic...

http://rtf.phonelosers.org/photos/April2003_NYC26000043.jpg
 
 
Lionheart
16:13 / 23.05.04
(I'm on the right.)
 
 
Lionheart
01:53 / 24.05.04
*cries*

Waaaaah! Nobody showed up! Waaah!
 
 
Caleigh
13:13 / 24.05.04
it WAS kinda short notice L.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
17:30 / 24.05.04
Also everyone hates you.

Okay, not really.
 
 
gotham island fae
22:22 / 25.05.04
I'm afraid I wasn't on Barbelith over the trip weekend, Lionheart. I'll be back in NU York for good in a geological mini-second.

Think 5-23-}5{ for big NYC Barb-occult gathering rite. Otherwise, I'll meet you at alt.coffee the minute I get back in the City again.
 
 
Lionheart
16:12 / 26.05.04
Here are some links:

(THe first group of links is provided by Caleigh)...

(Caleigh)

click

click

notice the building at the corner of Irving Place and E 19th street. Also headquarters of AMORC (Rosicrucians) on
Irving Place between E 15th and 16th streets.

click

it says that the block of lafeyette/cooper square and
east 8th used to be the meeting of indian trails. nearby
is a freemason building. in toronto (my hometown) the
masonic temple is at the intersection of yonge st. (longest st. in the world) and davenport which was the
original indian path through the area.

click

this is funny to see

click

also this.

(/Caleigh)

click
 
 
Zophiel
01:52 / 27.05.04
There's this soccer field right across from Pier 12 with some sort of wierd occult looking glyph drawn into the grass. I'd like to stop by there with the group and see if anyone recognizes it. Anyway, if I haven't missed the event already I'll be there.
 
 
XXII:X:II = XXX
08:33 / 13.06.04
Right, let's start chatting this up again so when ten days time passes we're not all staring at our feet and trying to come up with an excuse that sounds good why this wasn't made to happen.

Of course, as June 23 is a Wednesday most of us, I would imagine, will only be available after a certain point, and likely only up until a certain point, too. July 23 is a Friday, at least. August 23 I may be away.

The next actual weekend 23rd is in October. Do with that information what you will.

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