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New Marillion album - Marbles

 
 
40%
21:22 / 08.04.04
I was a little apprehensive about this album, but I've just started listening to it, and I'm immediately quite taken with it. There's none of the kind of "yeah but..." feeling I've had with the last few albums. It immediately feels like home. I'm listening to it for the first time, but it feels like I've always known it. It has a magic about it. It really works. Will probably want to say more about it in due course, but for now, just wanted to say, I'm not disappointed. In fact I'm very pleased with my purchase. And the artwork in the big booklet has made pre-purchasing well worthwhile.

If I, as a something of a sceptic about recent Marillion music, like it, maybe you would too.

What do other people who have heard the album think?
 
 
Seth
12:42 / 09.04.04
Yay! Another Marillion thread! Fill the Music Forum with them! To the rafters!

I've not heard it yet, but I'm actually quite looking forward to it. I haven't fallen madly in love with any of their records since Afraid of Sunlight, and I reckon this'll be a huge return to form. I hope...
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
01:30 / 10.04.04
Ohhhh... this should be jetting through my letterbox tomorrow, if there's any justice in the world. Will return with something constructive when I get the chance...
 
 
40%
11:41 / 10.04.04
Well, my mind is made up. Marbles is the essential Marillion album. I'm tempted to say it's the best, but it's a bit early for that. However, it so perfectly combines the best elements from Brave, Afraid of Sunlight, This Strange Engine and Anoraknophobia that it makes the perfect introduction to their music. The first CD particularly is the perfect consumation of everything else they've done so far. The second CD goes more into new territory.

This album has everything that makes Marillion great. It's sad and thoughtful at times, but the melancholy never crosses over into morbid, as it does somewhat on Brave. It has the funky and modern feel largely introduced on Anoraknophobia, it has some shorter and punchier songs, and some longer pieces with lots of movements, a-la This Strange Engine. It has moments of drifting strings with vocal samples, like the end of 'Gazpacho', only maybe even better, if that's possible.

And most importantly, the songwriting is pure gold. There are moments of breathtaking beauty on this album, and the whole thing feels smooth and silky. There are some lovely guitar tones not heard since Brave. And there's not one song on this album that outstays its welcome for a moment, nor ends too soon. This album is quite simply masterful. They have truly perfected their craft.

I didn't dare to hope for an album of this calibre, an album that would capture everything great about the band's previous work while reconfiguring it for the 21st century, but here it is. MARBLES IS A TRIUMPH. If you don't know Marillion, here's a great place to start. In fact, now is the time to get into them.

What more can I say. I'm very grateful to the boys for this album. They've totally surpassed my expectations. Who would have guessed that the last few patchy albums would lead up to this masterpiece? In fact, I can probably look back on an album like Anorkanophobia and appreciate it more for knowing it was an important step on the trajectory to this.

To Marillion fans who haven't heard this yet, I'm excited for you. You have an absolute treat in store. If you've lost your enthusiasm for music, or indeed for life in general, this is what the doctor ordered.

Hooray for Marillion! The first truly great band of the 21st century!
 
 
Seth
21:59 / 12.04.04
I've heard a song and a half, and well...

I don't want to jump the gun, but...

I can't judge based on what I've heard, although...

I think it's wonderful so far.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:04 / 14.04.04
WHERE'S MY BASTARD CD, YOU BASTARDING BASTARDS?!

Have been waiting for a week and a half. Am going slightly loopy. Gonna start eating people if it doesn't arrive soon. Not because that'll make it arrive quicker, just because.
 
 
BARISKIL666
09:46 / 15.04.04
Marillion.com was a sublime album.I'll be buying Marbles on the strength of this!
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:25 / 20.04.04
WHERE.

IS.

MY.

CD.

YOU.

BASTARDS?
 
 
Seth
20:10 / 20.04.04
How long ago did you pre-order? Could it have gone to your old address?

If you want to borrow it I'll bring it over tomorrow night. Send me a text.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:15 / 21.04.04
Cheers, dude. Just got a round robin email from the boys to say that the new single was HMV's most pre-ordered single EVER, and that they've had more airplay so far for 'You're Gone' than they've had for anything else in over ten years... also that if you haven't received your pre-ordered copy of the album yet, you will in the next few days. So there's still hope... also, HB123 has kindly let me know that my name is in the inlay as one of those who supported the band by pre-ordering the album last year. W00t!
 
 
v1sion
11:34 / 22.04.04
HB123, you have described this masterpeice just as I would have done! Totally agree!

It s like the coming together of so many years of work, the potential of bits of previous albums, the artwork is the best I have ever seen anywhere etc etc

I just feel a huge wave of justification for keeping the Faith and for boring everyone I know over the years about them being the best band in the world. This album proves it beyond doubt.

Whats even better is the fans are more together than they have ever been and the new publicity will bring in loads of new ones.

Its a Fantastic Place to be right now!!
 
 
40%
00:44 / 25.04.04
I think I can put my finger on what Marbles has that the other Marillion albums don't. It's a tapestry. Just listened to Season's End tonight, and it's a great collection of great songs. Brave is a concept album, and it covers its concept very well. Marbles is a tapestry, it works as a coherent whole, and yet it doesn't achieve this by having a single central theme. I mean, the Marbles thing is kind of a concept, but it doesn't really dictate the flow of the album as such (would others agree?).

No, Marbles is a tapestry, which is to say that it's both entirely coherent and incredibly varied. A rare thing indeed. Hope that makes sense.

As you can tell, I'm fairly obsessed ATM.
 
 
v1sion
10:51 / 25.04.04
Yeah, tapestry is a good way of putting it.

I'm more obsessed with this stuff than in all my 20 years following the band, its great and the reason that people MUST begin to understand is that there is something very special going on here....
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
16:47 / 25.04.04
Got an email today telling me that there was a confusion with the posting of my copy, should be with me shortly. Will post hopefully next week teling you wot eye fink.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
12:04 / 12.05.04
Ok, I still haven't received my official copy yet, but I've burnt my brother's copy onto my hard drive and thence onto minidisc, and have been listening to it over and over since last Thursday (WHERE'S MY CD, YOU BASTARDING BASTARDS ETC)... and it's gorgeous. With a few mild niggles. Here's Jack's Bodiless Review on the album he's been waiting over two years for...

There's a definite melancholy lyrical bent to this album, one of alienation, self-imposed isolation or voluntary seclusion. It begins with 'The Invisible Man', one of three much longer songs which hark back to their progressive roots in having several movements over the course of ten, twelve, eighteen minutes. 'The Invisible Man' begins with a detuned, low dark rumbling groove, bass and effects sounding almost like a Nine Inch Nails song, before moving into the song proper, which lyrically appears to move through the feeling of helplessness and remove coming from living in the internet age, able to practically eavesdrop on events occurring thousands of miles away, and feeling utterly helpless to make a difference in any of it (which anyone who's been on an anti-war demo in the last year or so can certainly relate to). It's probably the only song Marillion have recorded whose music, tonally, harks back to the Pink Floyd of Dark Side Of The Moon, and it's very affecting, the lyric by turns despairing of the alienating feeling of being invisible/intangible ("I stand perfectly still in the middle of the road... hold my nerve... hold my nerve... but the cars don't swerve...") and the fact that nothing the narrator can do affects anything ("I will walk stride for stride with you/I will try to help/When you stumble/You will stumble through me").

The 'Marbles' interludes (four of them scattered throughout the album, each less than two minutes long) are typically fey, scattered lyrics about losing marbles, both
whimsically metaphorical ("as I lie in my bed, there's a space in my head where there used to be colours and sound") and whimsically autobiographical (Steve playing marbles at school, hitting them in the air with a tennis racket, trying to keep as many as possible after they're confiscated, noticing that over the years as he grew up he's lost those precious things, one by one).

The first pop song, 'Genie', is a revelation - an irresistable hook. Lyrically dealing with a terrifying fear of taking some enormous step, or of expressing something that could be lifechanging, it's a gorgeously uplifting pop tune, which although a guitar-based song feels electronic in an expansively organic, melodic way. It's just brilliant songwriting, formulaic while somehow... not, and one of the finest pure pop songs they've ever written.

'Fantastic Place' is absolutely stunning. A slow dynamic build over the whole six minutes or so, the aching melody still managing to wrong-foot you part-way through, lyrically it seems to represent a wish to escape, to leave your life, your relationship, to live in a dream, a fantastic place ("Take me to the island/I'll watch the rain over your shoulder/The streetlights in the water/The moment outside of real life") - there's the sense that the narrator is trying to explain the lost feeling he has, knowing his partner won't ever truly understand. It's utterly beautiful, harking back to the title track of the 'Afraid Of Sunlight' album, and it's gonna be huge live.

'The Only Unforgiveable Thing' is an odd one, but a definite charmer. The first of several songs on the album that sound like they owe a little to The Flaming Lips at first, it moves into a building, soaring emotionally dynamic movement, before dropping back into the same chiming slow groove that began the song. A grower, but very rewarding.

Next is the big one, 'Ocean Cloud'. In many ways this could be seen to be vintage Marillion, but here the familar soaring, desperately melancholic melody is stretched out over eighteen minutes. What's astonishing,then, is that it feels like seven minutes, and that it carries the emotional dynamic over the entire length of the song without losing anything of its power. Nothing is rushed, through minutes of ambience, a sudden flurry of harsh, cutting guitar, before a return to the tune and the chorus again, and again... it feels like a short film inside your head, the expanse of the ocean spread before you, just as it is for the song's fleeing narrator. The lyric is bitterness, desolation, about the decision to leave a painful past behind, drift on the ocean forever, always looking back, never able to step out of the past even in the moment of escape.

'The Damage' is a return to some of the lyrics in 'Genie', a rattling, rolling kickstart of a song, vocals and guitars crashing around like they're drunk - it's the tongue-in-cheek consequences of getting the genie out of the bottle, the act he was so scared of in 'Genie', and it's a fantastic rock number that I can only really describe as the Kink's 'Lola' on a tequila bender. Classic.

'Don't Hurt Yourself' is alt.country pop, slide and acoustic guitars evoking a more cheerful Counting Crows or a less affected REM - it's a typically positive Steve Hogarth pop lyric about healing through radical, empowering redesign of the way you attack your life. The little hippy. Find a better way of life, indeed...

'You're Gone' I've already described on the thread for the single - again, it's a gorgeous cross between U2's 'Electrical Storm' and Massive Attack's 'Hymn Of The Big Wheel'. Well deserved number seven hit, lads...

'Angelina' is, conceptually at least, another odd one, a soft, dreamy, beautiful melody caught within a song about a crush on the titular graveyard shift radio DJ. The gorgeous music seems in direct contrast to the tongue-in-cheek lyric ("Something wicked, something bad/Something for your mum and dad/Don't get even, Don't get mad/Get off on Angelina/Lonely man's best friend"), and no, I haven't figured it out yet... but knowing Steve Hogarth's impish sense of humour, the above's probably the whole point.

'Drilling Holes' is, again, another odd one, and I've got to confess that I don't like it. It's reminiscent of the feel of a lot of the Beatles' 'White Album', and it's not my cup of tea, to be honest. I don't get the lyric at all, and I kind find a hook to hang my hat on. There's always one...

Which leaves us with 'Neverland, a twelve minute, slightly unfocused, but moving paean to a lover, the gorgeous lyrical hook ("At times like these/Any fool can see/Any fool can see/Your love inside me") moving the song along. It's perhaps a little too long, to be honest - it could have been edited without losing anything - but it's still a lovely, achingly moving song, the kind that Marillion have perfected over the last fifteen years, and perfect to end an album this good on.

The only real niggle for me, aside from the fact that I just don't get 'Drilling Holes', is the track listing for the single CD release - the one available in stores. Obviously to release it like that means that some songs have to go - the double CD proper is still available by ordering from their online store - but one questions why they decided to leave off 'Genie', 'The Damage' and 'The Only Unforgiveable Thing' ('Ocean Cloud', at the length it is, isn't as surprising) - all of which are wonderfully charming and idiosyncratic tunes that show off today's Marillion wonderfully. 'Genie', in particular, would make a genius second single, which isn't possible now unless they make it an EP with the above two and 'Faith' (a track that didn't make the album), or something along those lines. My own choice would have been to leave 'Drilling Holes', 'Ocean Cloud' and 'Neverland' off the retail version, and rearrange the tracklisting, starting it off with the first 'Marbles' fragment, and leaving the album on a massive high with 'The Invisible Man'...

But this album is magnificent. So looking forward to seeing them on tour in July...
 
 
v1sion
13:03 / 19.05.04
Nice Review Jack, objective and discerning as ever...
 
 
40%
09:21 / 20.05.04
"The Only Unforgivable Thing" is my favourite song on the album at the moment.
 
 
Jack The Bodiless
11:52 / 21.05.04
Mine started off as Genie, but now I can't stop listening to Fantastic Place, even though my copy is a warbly/muffled ripped-off Soulseek copy (and yes, I've paid for a copy of the album, I JUST HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT YET - although I've been promised one soon. Apparently it was posted before 01.05.04. They're on the case, so I shall try to stop complaining).

Oh, and Angelina has one of the most gorgeous melodies I've ever heard.
 
 
40%
12:20 / 21.05.04
My mate who I listened to it with recently said that Angelina was "a bit too soft" for him. This from a man who listens to classical music more than anything.

That's got to be some kind of accomplishment for a rock band hasn't it? In a wierd kind of way. How often are rock songs described as too soft?

And yes, it is gorgeous when the harmonies come in. So peaceful.
 
 
Jazzatola
15:29 / 21.05.04
In short, it rocks.

The songs are sonically complex with layers of sound and texture that reveal themselves with repeated listens and the lyrics are sincere and dramatic without ever becoming overblown or contrived. Although, having said that, I'm still having trouble with the '...this boy's a cream puff...' section of Ocean Cloud.

It also has a very Pink Floyd flavour to it in that you couldn't call it a concept album but the songs definitely have a unified feel. And the production is superb - how Dark Side Of The Moon would sound if released today.

Right now, my favourite would have to be The Only Unforgivable Thing.
 
  
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