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Duke Ellington

 
 
m
06:04 / 02.04.04
I've been wanting to get some of Ellington's stuff for a while, but his huge catalogue of records has kept me away. Anybody know anything about him? I've got one double record of Okeh sides and that's it. I'm real interested in hearing some of the longer suites that he wrote later, but I don't want any greatest hits comps or anything like that.
 
 
Jack Fear
11:43 / 02.04.04
His arrangements of Tchaikovsky and Grieg (from Three Suites) is very amusing, and actually shows off Ellington's mad skillz very well: because you're already familiar with the tunes, you as listener can pay attention to what Ellington does with them.

That said, Black, Brown and Beige (1958) is probably the most fully-realized on Ellington's longer, later works. Worth a listen if only for Ray Nance's violin on "Come Sunday," which is just heart-stopping.

And don't knock greatest-hits comps: for an artist with Ellington's enormous catalog, sometimes they're the only manageable point of approach. The trick is to use the compilation not as an end in itself, but as an overview, a pointer towards the individual works. There's a single-disc overview that came out as a tie-in to Ken Burns's Jazz documentary that's pretty ace, and a more substantial three-disc set from Columbia, entitled simply Duke (which came out in 1999 and appears, sadly, to be out of print) is excellent as well. The thing is to find a set or a comp with good liner notes, and use those as the basis for research (it helps to have a public library with a good recordings collection, too).

Two more things to remember: Ellington's essential sound, his elegance and puckish humor, were the mainstays of his sound--but he was inspired mainly by the players in his orchestra, and wrote specifically for their strengths. The sound and scope of the band changed hugely as players passed in and out--Bubber Miley and later Cootie Williams on trumpet, Juan Tizol on valve trombone, the distinctive saxes of Johnny Hodges and Harry Carney, and the aforementioned Ray Nance.

Secondly, when talking about Ellington you can't underestimate the contribution of arranger and composer Billy Strayhorn. Ellington's greatest genius didn't flower until after 1940, when Strayhorn joined the organization.
 
 
Grey Area
12:26 / 02.04.04
In addition to Jack Fear's comprehensive breakdown, you might want to consider (dare I say it) the BBC recordings of the Goon Show. Ellington provided one of the two musical breaks in their shows (the other being done by Max Geldray, the harmonica-wielding madman). I find that having a Goon Show around the music puts it in context with the lifestyle of the period. Somewhat.
 
 
m
19:33 / 02.04.04
Thanks folks, I'm setting my sights on that Black, Brown, and Beige record for now. As far as the comps go, I don't mind having works from a certain period in time or a certain line up grouped together, but its the sweeping overview type of compilation that I don't really like spending money on. Every time I get a "greatest hits" type of record, I only like about 2/3 of it and then find myself wishing that I had just bought the original lps that the songs I liked were featured on. I'm too cheap of a bastard to lay out that kind of money for research. (Oh man, a good recording collection at the library, that would be heaven.)
 
 
lekvar
23:23 / 02.04.04
My dear Grey Area,
You're thinking of Ray Ellington, not Duke Ellington, but I am glad to hear someone other than me bring him up.
Duke was a major force in Jazz and a composer. Ray merely rocked.
 
  
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