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What the hell is joycore? (PICS)

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04:13 / 02.04.04

I keep running across posts mentioning joycore this and that. I did a Barbelith search, and I get thread after thread of goofy pictures. Is joycore a Barbelith in-joke or some terrible new strain of core that the kids are into nowadays.

gotham island fae

05:15 / 02.04.04

Shush and feel the JOY.

agvvv

05:18 / 02.04.04

well.. the core of joy = pie! pie is your answer!

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

05:37 / 02.04.04

Oh dear. Matthew, I fear you may have opened Pandora's Box.

I'm going to hide now.

05:44 / 02.04.04

Oh, I see how this is gonna go.

40%

06:11 / 02.04.04

Is joycore a Barbelith in-joke or some terrible new strain of core that the kids are into nowadays.

Dude, if you actually care, they've won....

sleazenation

06:15 / 02.04.04

the short answer is 'yes, it's a barbelith in-joke' and basic shorthand for 'joy inducing stuff what i like' for some people. Its apparently the antonym for 'borecore' or 'boring what i don't like'.

Sleepy

06:38 / 02.04.04

JOYCORE REACHES MARS

JOY TO THA MUTHA FUCKIN' CORE, HOMEBOY!
JOY TO THA MUTHA FUCKIN' CORE!

06:40 / 02.04.04

Mr. Being: What did they win?

We're The Great Old Ones Now

06:49 / 02.04.04

Joycore is this really annoying thing that some Barbelith folks can still be bothered with. Usually it has pictures, which makes the threads annoying if you're on a dial-up. It can get to feel like being smothered in cheap soft toys. It's pretty much the most cliquish thing which happens here. And it's like "Mornington Crescent" in that no one will explain the rules and it isn't actually worth working them out unless you want to torment people with cries of "that's SO joycore" or "BORECORE, Dude."

Ignore it. Maybe it'll go away.

Sleepy

07:39 / 02.04.04

JOYCORE has no rules, mate. Rules are BORECORE

You may have been confused by the phrase "JOYCORE RULES!!1!"

This is a proclamation using 'rules' in its slang form - 'to be excellent or superior'.

To sum up, JOYCORE RULES, BORECORE = RULES.

Char Aina

07:46 / 02.04.04

the short answer is 'yes, it's a barbelith in-joke' and basic shorthand for 'what i like' for some people. Its apparently the antonym for 'borecore' or 'what i don't like'.

woah...
so, like, joycore is borecore?
no way!

Saveloy

07:49 / 02.04.04

The Unofficial History:

The word 'joycore' was invented by a Barbelith regular who most of the people here will know as Flux. He first used the term in his blog when, commenting upon a song by The Danielson Famile, he said something along these lines: "this is the most joyful tune ever made. Somebody should invent a movement for this sort of thing, and they should call it JOYCORE." A week or two later, the first joycore threads appeared on Barbelith.

As I understand it, joycore is pro things that make you go "woo-hoo!" and "yay!", and anti things that say "bah!" and "feh..." and "Pah!"

bitchiekittie

13:27 / 02.04.04

YES!

I'm not a member of the joycore clique. yet I find myself so sorry that people don't embrace it!

stop and smell the flowers, man. ROLL in em. take em home and share em with your mom.

ibis the being

13:39 / 02.04.04

It's pretty much the most cliquish thing which happens here.

Really? I've always thought the opposite, including during my lurking days. What's exclusive about sharing pics of kittens and robots and people dancing? There's really nothing to 'get' about partying, even if it's virtual/message-board partying.

bitchiekittie

13:42 / 02.04.04

CODGERS! CRANKY CODGERS!

bitchiekittie

13:46 / 02.04.04

uh, what I meant by that, is I really can't understand why people get so irritated by it. the thread titles or abstracts mention joycore, and if there are pics, someone usually tags the title with [pics]. so, if you don't like it, uh...don't click?

it's frivolous, I know, but fun, if you give into it. personally, I'm all for giving into it every day.

We're The Great Old Ones Now

13:54 / 02.04.04

Sav's explanation is so good, it should go in the Wiki. It's the first time in living memory anyone's been remotely useful in answer to the question. As to why the thing's cliquish, because it's only joyful and carefree if someone's kind enough to explain what it is, which most often they don't; the question 'what is joycore?' tends to be answered with pictures of kittens and luminous fish. As I say, it's like Mornington Crescent. Oh, and because it's often used to tell people who don't know what it is to lighten up, precipitating another round of the 'what is joycore?"/Kitten thread.

Spatula Clarke

14:04 / 02.04.04

Joycore. Flux owns shares. You've all been suckered by the power of subliminal advertising.

Smoothly

14:15 / 02.04.04

Frankly, I'm staggered to find a thread started by a suit called 'matthew' and entitled 'What the hell is joycore?', contains 17 replies and, so far, only one image.

These are indeed strange times.

cusm

14:55 / 02.04.04

Indeed. Makes you just want to, well...

Harrison Ford, in a battle suit, wheels for feet, knives and guns

15:22 / 02.04.04

no no that's not allowed, that's PIGCORE, that's totally sick!

Matthew Fluxington

15:31 / 02.04.04

Joycore is fairly self explanatory. It's a pro-fun, pro-imagination, self-empowering, anti-borecore philosophy. Nick's fixation on the image threads misses the point quite a bit - the threads on Barbelith give a lot of hints and clues as to what Joycore is (and a lot of its meaning is ultimately up to you, should you embrace it), but those threads are only a manifestation of the Joycore spirit, not by any means the totality of what it's all about. Ideally, Joycore and Borecore should be used as adjectives.

For more, please consult the following threads:

Too Darn HOTT
A Question Of Crucial Importance
Beauty Is In The Eye Of Joycore
Is Joycore Innate?
Joycore Dance Party
Killed By Joycore
Help Please: What The Hell Is Borecore?
This Thread Will Change Your Life

Murray Hamhandler

17:18 / 02.04.04

Basically, "It's pretty much the most cliquish thing which happens here."
= Borecore. When one's reaction to fun is to pout about being left out and/or to denounce fun altogether rather than just, you know, having fun because fun is fun...this is Borecore, my friends.

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17:19 / 02.04.04

The Falcon

18:00 / 02.04.04

No-one explained Joycore to me, Nick.

It ain't difficult. You too can play. Everyone can.

diz

19:31 / 02.04.04

it's weird how quickly "borecore" became the most scathing thing i knew how to say about anything.

Saint Keggers

19:37 / 02.04.04

What's not weird is how quickly Joycore became borecore. Its like shoving sugar down somebody's throat. No matter how amazing sugar is you're still shoving it down somebody's throat.

The Falcon

20:34 / 02.04.04

Uh-oh. Looks like someone isn't feeling the joy.

Cheer up, son!

Matthew Fluxington

20:53 / 02.04.04

Keggers, c'mon. You still don't understand it, do you? Everyone loves Joycore. Joycore existed before the word. The only thing that keeps people from embracing Joycore is clinging to Borecore. Let go of Borecore!

It's so much easier to understand Joycore if you understand Borecore.

Spatula Clarke

21:01 / 02.04.04

If Joycore can't let people get on with their own thing, even if their own thing is Borecore, then it's fundamentally flawed. True Joycore doesn't batter others over the head for not falling into line.

I have spoken.

_pin

21:02 / 02.04.04

Isn't Joycore a personal thing? Like if you find the stuff other people find Joycore boring, and those people keep going THIS IS THE ONLY FORM OF JOYCORE ON THE MOTHERFUCKING MENU!! you're gonna look at these people at think "fucking institutional borecore Nazis. They're ain't foolin' my ass!" That said, hte personal celebration of shit that you say's joycore is always an act of joycore. Everyone should be happy about shit they like.

Listening to Anticon records doesn't make you borecore; listening to Anticon records because you're scared of black men makes you borecore.

Spatula Clarke

21:03 / 02.04.04

Hang on. What if some people enjoy battering others over the head? Haven't I fallen into the same trap I've just warned about?

Confusing.

_pin

21:04 / 02.04.04

I think Randy just said what I said, but I think Randy's made sense (but mine had capital letters and rude words. I FUCKING BEAT RANDY'S ASS).

The only borecore things are self-denial in a bad way (the Victorian-ear? I'm looking at you!), surely?

That sounded really serious. I feel wrong.

_pin

21:06 / 02.04.04

You gotta find people who enjoy being battered over the head. OR you gotta find a base-level "Yeeeeeh" you have in common with the other person and just go "Yeeeeh" with them, and lie to yrself that you're talking about the same thing.

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