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Observations on Barbelith

 
 
The Fetch
20:56 / 26.03.04
This is part one of a two part piece, but I would like to share with you some of my observations about Barbelith as an esoteric forum.

1) It is open and creative, and there are many who contribute knowledge that is not necessarily of a profane (common public nature).
2) Relative to independent and avante garde Occultic Articles, Barbelith is appearing in a manner wholly unsuspecting from a rational point of view.

As I have communicated to a few members here, notably CUSM, Son Of Dirt, and a few others in private, my personal efforts on describing what I believe IS THE ESOTERIC CODE in English that Crowley and many other before him allude to, I do from time to time engage in web searches, typically Google and Dogpile, to see where my work as "spread" onto the net in a viral manner.

To my surprise (honest), Barbelith appears (and yes I am promoting myself here, along with Barbelith) at the top of the list on these search engines for subjects that to me are rather unsuspecting.

For instance: Run a search on "The esoterics of G-d", and the first to pop up is my article entitled "The Secret to G-d". The second in the list is a work called Esoteric Subjects relate to the Golden Dawn. The third is a Rabbinical work. You would expect (imo) that Rabbinical works would dominate this space. But Barbelith prevails!

So I ran another search.

Qaballa as an Esoteric Science

This search revealed a post from an Occult Encyclopedia as 1, and then Barbelith second, an article again I wrote called The Proper Spelling of Qaballa.

So I ran a third search.

The Esoteric Significance of Pei

Again. As many here know, Pei is the 17 Letter of the Hebrew Alphabet and is a key to understanding Kabballah, yet again, Barbelith ranks both 1 and 2 in the search engine, my article titled the Story of Pei (which really wasnt quite the Letter) and then my article entitled The Esoteric Formula of the Heart. Third is the work from Inner.org, sorta like the direct competitor to the Isisian Codes, which is the largest Noahidist faction in the world and is the renowned "masters" of Kabballah.

Again I searched.

The Mystical Significance of 26

Here, Barbelith struck out. Inner.org controlled both 1 and 2. In my opinion, we need to revive this work and restructure our focus so as to control this in the search engines. We have written much about it, but it fails under this search. A search for "The Esoterics of 26" also fails to highlight Barbeliths work reveals that Barbelith is not mentioned until the third page, and this is my article entitled Unveiling the Secret of G-d. Unacceptable in my opinion, as we have all contributed much to this concept.

When the topic "Pi as an Esoteric Concept" is searched (all of these are Google), number 1 is an interesting article by a Chris Lofting. Number 2 and Number 3 are again Barbelith, again, "The Esoteric Significance of the Heart" and "Apperception of the Conceptual". Number 5 is interesting: 5000+ Links to Esoteric Subjects on the Web.

I wonder if Barbelith is a part of that link?

A Web Search on "The Mystical Value of the Word" is lost out to again Inner.org, who controls Numbers 1 and 2, compositions on the Letters Chet and Pei respective. Number 4 is Robins Link..English Qabala. Number 9 is a work entitled, Hidden Codes in the Bible: The Value of Pi.

All of you familiar with my work would understand why such is of value, at least to me. On the Subject of the "word", Barbelith strikes out, although we have it here within our group. Personally, this needs to be hammered out in a work so that we can be more prevalent here..imo.

A search on "The Mystical Significance of Pi" reveals my article, on page 2 of the search engine, entitled "Esoteric Significance and Absolute Truth". Numbers 1 and 2 are entitled "23's are real" and "666, The Number of the Beast".

So I then did a search on 666. Strike out. Esoteric Significance of 666. Barbelith is 7 and 8. My article entitled Esoteric Significane of the Heart, and an Article by Wrecks City Wren in a thread called 777.

Anyways...here is my challenge/request.

If you have time, do a web search on your favorite subjects in either Google or Dogpile, and then write in your responses, even if you strike out. I am curious to know what the subject is you are interested in (hence the search) and whether Barbelith again "delivers" and establishes the topic high in the search engine. Anything after 5 pages should be considered a strike out, but if you want to dig deeper and find a Barbelith article, by all means please do so.

Trust this might be a bit of fun to see just how Barbelith has managed to become a repository for new era Occult from what is clearly focused seekers and practitioners.

In fun...

The Fetch
 
 
The Fetch
20:31 / 28.03.04
I ran another one.

English Gematria...and got an article by Quantum called "English Gematria, Divination or Mathematics?", ranked 7th and 8th in Google.

Cool!
 
 
Shanghai Quasar
02:49 / 29.03.04
The Barbelith has been unlocked and from it flows all the once hidden knowledge. It is a fascinating turn of things, innit?
 
 
C.Elseware
06:58 / 29.03.04
I am so not down with numerology. But I do sit around and see what single words match websites owned or contributed to by myself or my friends. I'm slightly worried that I actually feel good when a site of mine comes top on google.

And then I discovered that the first link for "elseware" is an advert for a toilet rah! go me.

Although my site still comes top for absolution and I'm still top for Gutteridge. Getting into this now, I discovered that one of our sites beats out TOPY for ov thee which is kinda silly.

Hypersigil matches barbelith which is not too surprising.

Two word phrases are harder, and only really satisfying if some company would want the high spots. I get first for Urban Sports and I'm frequently mistaken for mars.com as I have the second match for Mars Bar now I think about it, we come top for womp rat and finally also Instant Monkeys.

As you can see I care about this way too much. I think it's probably that I find it reassuring to know that my memes are propagating, it seems unlikely my genes will.

We also looked at searching for numbers on google - but only for bands...

Sorry if that's not very magicky. Monday rambles.
 
 
Seth
11:31 / 29.03.04
Sadly we don't even make it onto the first page when the search string is "ninjas pirates." We're about three entries down the second page.
 
 
cusm
17:05 / 29.03.04
Huggle is also at the bottom of the second page. Considering 19,000 hits for the term, that's pretty good, I'd say.

And yes, "english quaballa" earns us the top match in Google. Spelt qaballa, we're on the second page. Google seems to prefer "qabala", which knocks us down to the 4th page.
 
 
Olulabelle
18:10 / 29.03.04
Rah! We're ninth for Mutual Dreaming on google and it's my thread!
 
 
Olulabelle
18:22 / 29.03.04
More: If you do a search for 'Synaesthsia' in google we come up nowhere, (well not in the first 6 or so pages) but if you search see sounds and hear colours, which is taken from the name of my Synaesthesia thread, we come up first and second.

We don't list at all for 'Enochian language' though.
 
 
The Fetch
16:42 / 30.03.04
Cool....this is actually kinda fun to read about...alot less tedious than Isisian Metaphysics.

I had not even heard of the Synaesia...
 
 
grant
18:07 / 30.03.04
Try "synaesthesia" -- you seemed to be skipping an "e".
Actually, nevermind -- I can't find squat that way. Add the term "laboratory," though, and Barbelith is top of the pile.

Just so y'all know, Google works in part by adding weight to page headings and titles, so if you use thread titles as your search term, you're more likely to get results.

"Gnosticism" craps out, but "Barbelo" gets us on the first page.
 
 
The Fetch
20:54 / 30.03.04
Grant..

So what we need to do is simply to begin a series of threads where we should be highlighted due to the nature of our work, imho..

In that way we can begin to place Barbelith at the top of all regarding esoteric stuff. This is what used to be called "guerrilla marketing", I believe.
 
 
Olulabelle
19:51 / 31.03.04
Grant, that's an accident in this thread, sorry. I did spell it right in the search.

The other night when referencing things that happened in a dream I looked up the following:

significance of 5 sided shapes in magick Barbelith - 3rd.

equilateral triangles in magick Barbelith -1st and 2nd.

And randomly, significance of glass in magick Barbelith - 1st and 2nd again.
 
 
cusm
13:13 / 01.04.04
Going for the Big One: Magick - top of page 5. We have some work to do, folks.

Then again, "chaos magick" gets us #2, right below "chaosmagic.com" It does help to focus on our specalization.

Also, "goetic": top of page 3.
 
 
The Fetch
22:18 / 01.04.04
Hi Cusm...

I will contribute a piece on the Esoteric Code of Magic(k)

I derive the word from the Letter Set M/AJK

A thorough explanation of this concept hopefully will put this towards the top. It is an old one that I shall revive through a rewrite...

Occult got us nowhere.
Esoteric of the Occult - my article on the Owl as a Symbol of the Occult, Page 1, Number 8 of 2890
Meaning of Occult (Strike out) I shall have to write an article just on the meaning of Occult. So much disinfo out there.

The Fetch
 
 
The Fetch
21:17 / 02.04.04
The Esoterics of the Letters - 4 and 5 of 759
>>>Unveiling the Secret of G-d -The Fetch
>>>The Art of Tarot and Isisian Mysticism - The Fetch

The Letters as an Esoteric Artform - 5 of 145
>>>The Story of Pei, The Fetch

The Esoteric Study of the Letters - strike out

The Esoteric Significance of English
>>>Observatons of Barbelith, this thread, 3 of 28,300
>>>Barbeliths FAQ's Page, English Qaballa, 4 of 28,300

Esoterics of English,
>>>Inveiling the Secret of G-d,12 of 5880
>>>26, Esoteric Significance of. 13 of 5880

The Metaphysics of the Letters, Strike out
The Metaphysics of the English Letters, Strike out
 
 
The Fetch
22:25 / 02.04.04
Another observation:

In Dogpile, a favorite of mine, Qaballa essentially strikes out but links the word to English and Crowley. This spelling is eschewed for Hebrew Kabballah, which is fine from a tactical point of view.

The Qaballa spelling is essentially being linked into Golden Dawn and "English", while anything related to Hebrew is generally spelled with the Kabballah. This is showing that the Letters are indeed beginning to "coalesce and conform" to their intended archetypical purpose, imo, as reason always refines words to return them to thier intended source.

NAEQ6 seems to link into the spelling of Qabalah, which deals with a Cipher 6.

In an attempt to conform this spelling, I released in this forum a thread entitled "The Proper Spelling of Qaballa" in this forum. Althought this early attempt was a frustration for me and I was not able to communicate the words as hoped for, this thread appears as

12 of 67 in Dogpile.com

This piece was done in support of Cusm's efforts to begin to categorize the "Qaballa related works" that various memebers have contributed here.

Obviously, most of the entries in this Qaballa are centering around Crowlian influence.

The Fetch
 
 
The Fetch
22:41 / 02.04.04
Another interesting observation (at least for me)

"Qaballa" turns us 3 and 4 of 1010 found, which is acceptable of course. One is the article "the Proper Spelling of Qaballa" which I must complete as it is left hanging (got to figure out how to do that), while a question posed by a Vladimir Batiste came in at 4.

I did not even know of this set of work so that is cool.

When English Qaballa is entered, the work drops to number 11 and 12 of 337, including the article of The Secret of G-d.

Gematria is controlled essentially by Hebrew works, with only one Isisian concept on the first page, which is "The Code" by Carl Munck which uses the exact same mathematics as the Isisian Codes.

What is clear here is that Gematria needs to be redefined to more accurate reflect the Code that is set in the word: the current definition is too simplistic and misleading relative to the Craft of Letters from which it came.

English Gematria gets us top billing, an article by Quantum sets the mark, number 8 of 8920, Gematria, Divination or Mathematics. His piece was truly a quest for further input on the subject and he had stated his views were of a "divination" set.

I did not contribute to that thread. Perhaps I should have acknowledged such and put in my two bits worth.

Quantum...acknowledge your piece after the fact anyways!

The Fetch
 
 
The Fetch
23:34 / 02.04.04
Yahoo has placed "Qaballa" at 1 of 640 with the article of "The Proper Spelling of Qaballa". This article definitely needs to be completed so that it can digestable to more folks...it may come off as bit dogmatic to some of you, but there is a strategic reason for this.

English Qaballa sets the same article at Number 5 of 265.

Essentially, then, English Qaballa remains "virgin territory" for exploitation and eleucidation. The science is still evolving.

English Gematria reveals alot of Christian sites: they seem to need to prove the Anti-Christ so have become a bit embracive of "gematria" or "numerology" and have contributed a fair share of analysis to the language, typically using ordinal coding. I might add that Cusm has provided ordinal type coding that is about as good as it gets from a word analysis point of view.

The Esoterics of Gematria earns a number 2 of 28, with Unveiling the Secret of G-d.

English Gematria is strike out, obviously need to work on this.
 
 
eye landed
11:14 / 03.04.04
I wonder if you were aware beforehand, The Fetch, that your quoting of your search terms in this thread would lead to top billing on Google. The esoteric significance of Pei now gives me this thread first, as does Pi as an esoteric concept. I imagine that my repetition of the exact phrases will reinforce Barbelith's position.

I then note that the top billing is extended to other Barbelith pages on the topic. Click the links to see.

On the other hand, why should I be surprised that your writings on an obscure topic come up in a search engine when you input your own phrases? For example, the esoterics of g-d puts you first, but you fall to number seven if I use the esoterics of god. Furthermore, Barbelith is not among the twelve results for Aleister Crowley smells like a wombat, and a measly number ten on Aleister Crowley, the great wombat. This is, of course, because the word "wombat" can be found in his Confessions (he unfavourably compares a woman with one), while the association of the two is not a matter of much import here.
 
 
The Fetch
16:48 / 03.04.04
Hi Sub,

I am finalising my work on the Isisian Codes and so have always over the past few years run a series of searches to find where my work has migrated. You would be surprised to find my work is often just "cut and paste" into a wide variety of forums, from Crowley to Qaballa to Conspiracy.

Recently, I did notice a trend: most of the previous known locations for my work have disappeared from the Search engines and in its place I find Barbelith always at or near the top, hence the "observation".

The point is that Barbelith seems to a great place to put one's work simply because it serves as a means to have people find your work under a variety of ways of searching various words.

To me, that is a obviously a good thing. Trust me when I say this: I have ALOT OF WORK OUT THERE and NONE OF IT IS SHOWING EXCEPT FOR BARBELITH...none of it.

Oftentimes the same articles in Barbelith are appearing in two or three other locations, but doesnt show on these searches. That says something unique about Barbelith, imo.

Thanks for sharing...I am actually interested to know what topics are of interest to others: you all know what is if interest to me.

The Fetch
 
  
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