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The disinfection of planet X

18:11 / 26.03.04

First, I have to say that i just read new-x-men 154, there are a lot of chances that this topic is already discussing in the New x-men 154 topic.

I want to use this space to thanks GM about his run, in 154 he explains in only one sentence, what Mr Claremont and X-offices made twenty years to state: the nature of Jean/Phoenix relationship:

Logan to Jean:"Yer an A-grade telekinetic talent TAPPED into a cosmic power source"
In the end of the story when Jean is outside Time (in Keter) we can see a lot of telepaths who all wears the phoenix uniform. So the mystery of the phoenix is revealed, it's a kind of God, a God who communicates with humans using telepaths and their crown chakras.
So there are no longer problems with Madelyn/Phoenix, Rachel/Phoenix, even Nate Grey/Phoenix. There's no longer need for retcon.

Always when Jean is in Keter:
Phoenix/god to jean: "You lost concentration become emotionally engaged. Shock almost killed it"
So this is the explanation for the Dark phoenix, the human defaults of Jean corrupted her link with the entity.

about jean'resurrection in the eighties:
It's not a cocoon, it's a phoenix egg.

Now think of all the continuity problems which emerge with the Jean's resurrection: Apocalypse, the twelve, Madelyn Prior, Nathan/Cable, Mr Sinister etc... (all this characters were created for X-factor, or in consequences of X-factor, the team based upon Jean's Resurrection).

"Here comes tomorrow" explains the phoenix history (after more than twenty years of pseudo-revelations), justify Apocalypse, Sinister, Madelyn Prior..etc..( It was sublime who was playing with mutants: Sublime: " The supermen fight and die and return in a meaningless shadowplay because we make them do it". I think sublime is an allegory for continuity). And in the end the X-men can really enter a new era of greatness.

Morrison makes the X-men evolves, and all his subplot are resolved, new relationship emerges: Scott/Emma (who is a more mature and complex avatar of Jean), Magneto attitude in Planet X is explained, No Girl is no more a mystery...

The title of New X-men 154: Rescue...and emergency

Thanks for the rescue, there is really an emergency.

Ps: sorry for my english, i know it is not really good

12:16 / 01.04.04

Yes I agree. Morrison has done wonderful with X-Men Continuity- especially fixing Jean Grey's continuity. Morrison's version of the Phoenix allows for the existance of all those other retcon continuities but also validates the original story that Jean was the original Jean/Phoenix character as well.

I just hope it won't be ignored.

Seems like Austen may already be retconning over the Cassandra/Ernst thing in New #155.

First 4 pages at Pop Culture Shock.

Pages 14, 16, 9, and 6 here....

http://www.honnou.com/ryan/

Our Lady Has Left the Building

14:04 / 01.04.04

Whatever happened to Mister Sinister anyway? I don't think Morrison has necessarily closed the door on using Jean Grey and the Phoenix, but it would be nice if the X-writers finally took the fucking hint and moved on from the whole Dark Phoenix/Days of Future Past thing they've all felt beholden to since Claremont first thought them up.

16:10 / 01.04.04

It's a great thing when a writer does what he wants without really caring with what people might say.
Morrison did a beautiful run on the title and I´m only afraid that Mr Austen is going to fuck up everything. Why can´t he be like Grant and make good, new and interesting changes?
Anyway, thanks for the ride Mr. Morrison, it's been true magic.

17:05 / 01.04.04

Seems like Austen may already be retconning over the Cassandra/Ernst thing in New #155.

well... if Xorn didn't know about Ernst/Cassandra, it's reasonable to believe that no one besides the Professor and Jean did, either, and so this could all just be a big red herring.

or not. but i'm going to stick my fingers in my ears and close my eyes and pretend that's what's happening, both because i don't want to believe Austen is that stupid, and because i don't even want to think of how badly he would butcher Cassie.

17:44 / 01.04.04

Speaking of Cassie,

I was rereading the run and Beast says about her early on:

"I think Cassandra Nova is the first of a new, unforeseen species."

Who was the new species in the run? The Super-Sentinels. The Weapons after Wolverine, starting with Weapon 11.

Rather tepid post, I know. But just a thought.

18:06 / 01.04.04

DAMN good point.

Matthew Fluxington

18:29 / 01.04.04

Those Austen pages are weird for two reasons:

1) I'm not sure what he's getting at with the Cassandra thing - it's pretty plainly established that Ernst = Cassandra just one issue before this. Is this just meant to show that the X-Men were mostly unaware of what Ernst was? Or is this just a lame attempt to make Cassie a recurring villain? Surely Ernst is a more interesting character to explore at the moment, and they can always make Ernst become the evil Cassandra later on. They could do a whole story in which Ernst is corrupted, or remembers what she really is, it could be really dramatic and exciting.

2) Chuck's writing is actually not cringe-inducingly awful on those pages!

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21:05 / 01.04.04

Christ. You can literally chart where Morrison ends and Austen's shitty, shitty work begins with just this one page from #155.

Haus, Heart, Home, Hearth

21:25 / 01.04.04

Such pathos!

23:56 / 01.04.04

3 words : Austen, you wanker!!

09:57 / 02.04.04

I for one am opening the plane door and bailing out right now.

Mr M introduced many marvellous new things into the X-World - but I ain't hanging around to see them trashed.

10:11 / 02.04.04

Hey, if you don't want to pay money to read Austin's X-men there is a simple solution. Don't.Buy. It. It really is that simple.

11:15 / 02.04.04

Well, I'd like SOMEONE to buy it here, I have an inane and self-destructive curiosity to see what happens concerning Cassie. I bet Austen names the last Cuckoos too.