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Sleeping/Dreaming and Panic.

00:38 / 16.03.04

I have recently been unable to sleep because at the point where I am about to fall into sleep I hear slightly mocking, low, 'sweet' female laughter. This is then immediately followed by a feeling of panic, which is unrelated to the laughter in so far as the laughter does not cause the panic.

The panic is not related to a fear of sleep, or dreaming, or waking, or feelings of being alone, or anything I can notice, it is literally, just a 'feeling' of panic. But it makes me not sleep and therefore not dream.

I have tried banishing, I've tried holding a totem in my hand whilst I fall asleep, and I've been round the whole of my whole new house and made peace (but anyway this started to happen before I moved). I've tried taking a weapon with me into the dreaming, but since I never get as far as the dreaming it's no help.

I really don't know what else to do. And I'm VERY tired!

Riding the panic is simply not possible because it wakes me so much it is hours before I feel tired again, then I hear the laughter, then the panic starts, ergo, back in the same place...

I am totally confident it is not my subconsious playing tricks with me, since I have been through all that kind of weirdness years ago when I first started to be interested in dreaming and I know how to deal with it.

So I think this is simply something interfering with my 'sleeping' process in order to stop me dreaming. But I don't understand why 'panic' would be used as a tool.

What references do you have for panic? What, if anything, does panic mean with regard to the dreaming? How is panic a relevant issue?

Any clues?

Any ideas?

01:58 / 16.03.04

This sounds like the sort of thing that would merit shamanic type Journeying, that way you don't need to be asleep. Have you tried anything along those lines yet? Drumming's always a good way to mix up energy in a room.

02:20 / 16.03.04

For What It's Worth To You:

It takes time to adjust to the communication of those whose vibrations are dissynchronistic to your own. It is like hearing "rock and roll" for the first time. Until your temporal lobe develops the necessary adjustments, the incoming messages will be disturbing. Then you will be amazed followed by boredom. Too much light can be blinding.

You are late for your "prescheduled appointment". Maybe you have been preoccupied for the past two years. The next five moon phases are like chapters in a book to be read while you drift beneath its light.

Who are you to translate light. Unless your soul/mind can bend seven ways.

Do you understand this?

Earlier than I thought

18:28 / 16.03.04

I can empathise. I scream, howl and babble in nonsense languages when on the edge of sleep. I have a very understanding partner and a neighbour who doesn't speak to me anymore.
I had always assumed this to be a form of 'night terror' but a magical perspective is a new and interesting idea which just goes to show that I really don't get this lark yet, do I?

20:15 / 16.03.04

Spooky as it sounds, auditory hallucinations on the edge of sleep are really not uncommon, nor are sudden jolts that wake you up on the periphery of sleep (although they are annoying as hell). I know how prosaic this sounds, but my guess is you're stressed out about something, and that you probably take in too much caffeine. Seriously.

21:05 / 16.03.04

Eddie Thirteen, I seriously don't. I am not a big caffeine addict.

And yes, I know that auditory hallucinations are common on the verge of sleep, but this isn't a physical issue. It's just not.

22:09 / 16.03.04

Wow your still without sleep then? It sounds like somethings just messing with you. I've had some real bad stuff happen to me when i've been trying to get to sleep before and it was usually at the point of total surrender that i fell to sleep.

I guess that when you get really tired of it you'll just fall asleep, i'm sorry that's not really a help.

The Knights Templar Boogie Machine

23:15 / 16.03.04

Maybe its fallout from a ritual or magickal working...Some of these spectres loom around for a while post-gnosis, lurking on the threshold between the conscious and unconscious...
Maybe succumbing to some frontal lobe dulling tv or some form of hyperactivity may readjust your quantal positioning, as you're probably resonating with some influx of energy from the aforementioned or a certain situation. Jolt yourself out of your current reality tunnel and by adjusting your personality, re-align with some different energies.....
Activate piss take mode, pref. of the black humour variety to combat such astral bastards...:
"What are you fucking laughing at, bitch?!!I don't care if you're discarnate entity or a fucking ipsissimus you annoying twat, you're like a bad case of tinnitus on the fucking quantum level , so fuck right off now, i'm trying to get to sleep!!!......."

(or words to that effect...)

23:37 / 16.03.04

Oh, I am so saying that tonight...

23:49 / 16.03.04

What you're describing is a very common occult experience which involves a team or individual spirit that is "priming" you for connection. The connection may be for direct communication or for behavior modification.

You can either accept it or reject it.

00:15 / 17.03.04

I believe that The Knights Templar Boogie Machine is right (wow, never saw myself typing that phrase in a lifetime).

I've found that a forceful and focused "Bitch be cool!" is a very effective banishing.

Olulabelle, are you suffering from any waking-hour stress or anxiety symptoms? Does this phenomenon occur during other alpha state activities such as meditation? Or is it purely a nighttime occurrence?

Shanghai Quasar

00:52 / 17.03.04

"No solicitors allowed, you prat. Spiritual trepassers will be fucking prosecuted... with my spectral shotgun! Eat astral lead!"

Knights Templar Boogie Machine was right.

03:12 / 17.03.04

Perhaps I should point out that I have no reason to think that The Knights Templar Boogie Machine would be wrong in assessing the situation, I just felt that was literally an odd phrase to type.

Sometimes my retentive tendencies serve me well, other times the tables are turned.