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Working with Qilipoth

Elijahdaprophet

16:14 / 14.03.04

Hello,

Anyone had any experience with Qilipoth , i cant find much out there.

Skibbahhh

Elijah
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19:02 / 14.03.04

How are you approaching them? Through the Abyss in the Kabbalah? Golden Dawn style or something else?

I'm positive someone here will have experience of this, but i'm finding that i know less and less every day so i don't want to be misguiding you, especially on a subject like this.

The Qlippoth to me are all of the repressed and unwanted things that humanity has ignored as individuals and also collectively. As for how to contact them and deal with them, i really don't know the best way to go about this, but i can say that taking a Tom and Jerry Ecstasy pill followed days later by 1/4 of an ounce of amphetamine and spending days/weeks on a paranioa/crazed madnessfest thinking that your a universal, earth saving super warrior and all you have to do is fight through and kill every last one of them is wrong and i'd strongly advise you against doing that very thing.

Surely your more intelligent than i was a few years back though, so i don't think i have to worry about you there.

Will Parfitt touched on contacting the Qlippoth in one of his books but that's all he did and i was pretty gutted. I'm not very into the Golden Dawn either so i'm stuck for how to do this myself aswell.

19:11 / 14.03.04

I'm sorry for unloading that lot in that last post, maybe i needed to get it out into the open. I just posted again to say that Qlippoth are something that are dealt with all the time and can be viewed as Archetypes, Demons, Spirits, Fragments of repressed memories/ideas etc. They can be dealt with in the Shamanic way, Buddhist way, approached by the Jungian Shadow concept, Magically, Alchemically by the Nigredo stage, Drugs, Meditation, the list will go on and on.

I'm looking forward to checking back on this, i need advice here too.

Elijahdaprophet

19:28 / 14.03.04

ha ha , your a superhero too!!

Yea im basicly learning the qabalah now and looking into the qilipoth, as far as working with them, all i get is "it's dangerous, approach it at your peril" "lilith is a child murderer" blah blah "i evoked lilith once and my next three years were ruined" but when i ask what paradigm they were approaching it from and how the next three years were ruined all i get is the same fucking "if you have to ask you'll never know" holyer than though mysic magus routine.

I was thinking of evoking lilith to get me started, my idea of lilith, raw nature/sumerian high godess not some wicked witch who kills kids and rohipnols desperate men by the side of the road before lobbing them into hell.

Id realy like some usefull feedback from somone who has worked with the broken spheres and doesnt mind giving some pointers.

Cheers!

Elijah

17:30 / 15.03.04

Anyone wanna tell us about working with Qlippoth and broken spheres?

You'd be helping two people with one pearl.............

trouser the trouserian

08:14 / 17.03.04

Some links you might find of interest:

Linda Falorio's account of Working the Tunnels of Set
Monstrous Souls
Mishlen Linden's Nightside wheel

17:32 / 17.03.04

The Qliphoth are known as the "Shells" cast off in the initial attempts at creation. Personally, I'd suggest getting familiar with the Light side of the Tree before invoking the Qliphoth. However, if you've got a good understanding of your self and tend to enjoy confrontational or challenging situations, then go for it.

19:07 / 17.03.04

http://www.digital-brilliance.com/kab/nok/q13.txt
from the above page/777
Kether----Thaumiel----Twins of God----(TAVM, tom - a twin)
Chokmah---Ogiel-------Hinderers------(? OVG - to draw a circle)
Binah-----Satariel----Concealers-----(STR, satar- to hide, conceal)
Chesed----Gash'khalah-Breakers in Pieces-(GASh Ga'ash - shake, quake
KLH, khalah - complete destruction, annihilation)
Gevurah---Golachab----Flaming Ones---(unclear)
Tipheret--Tagiriron---Litigation--(probably from GVR, goor - quarrel)
Netzach---Orev Zarak--Raven of Dispersion-(ARV, orev - raven
ZRQ, zaraq - scatter)
Hod-------Samael------False Accuser----(SMM, samam - poison)
Yesod-----Gamaliel----Obscene Ass----(GML, gamal - camel? alt. ripen?)
Malkut----Lilith------Woman of the Night----(Leilah - Night)

I worked extensively with the Qlippoth and the Nightside of the Tree several years ago. NOT RECOMMMENDED. If you lie down with these dogs, expect ultraterrestrial fleas. It cost me my child. Honest.