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Nothing new in Art then?

 
 
Olulabelle
20:53 / 13.03.04
I presume it's safe to assume that none of us are very interested in Art, Fashion and Design, since nothing new has been posted in any of the threads here for the last eight days.

(Just to clarify, that's eight days not eight hours.)

But hang on. Barbelith people are creatively driven, right? So how is it that none of us have anything interesting to say about Art, Fashion and Design? Has this whole world become so stagnant and uninspiring that we have nothing to comment on? And if it has, why are we not commenting on it?

Or is it that this forum simply doesn't stimulate people's discursive juices?

Because if it is then I'd like to know why, and then maybe once we know that we can think about how we resuscitate this forum.
 
 
Turk
05:37 / 14.03.04
Fine, I'm infrequent, but I'll doing something about it!
 
 
Grey Area
12:06 / 14.03.04
I don't think it's that nobody's interested in AF&D (geez, that sounds like an ad agency)...like you said, there's no end of creative people here. Maybe the problem is design overload? We're surrounded by so much talk about design that we end up not thinking about it much?
 
 
gingerbop
15:10 / 14.03.04
Ok, so we need some topics. Discuss:

Product design- Mint credit cards, with a rounded corner.
Fashion- Whether I need these in my life.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
15:56 / 14.03.04
And I was going to start a topic (at some vague unspecified point in the future) asking if anyone made their own clothes or knew how to do so. But then I started imagining that maybe there's a reason Barbelith doesn't have a sewing forum, so didn't.

More product design stuff would be cool, though. It's more lack of knowledge than lack of entusiasm that stops me posting here...
 
 
Grey Area
17:32 / 14.03.04
Gingerbop...those have to be the strangest DM's I've seen in a while, beating even the totally silver ones a friend of mine bought a month ago. But there's something irrepresibly cool about them. Get them.
 
 
Bed Head
17:39 / 14.03.04
Well, ‘art’ is a difficult experience to share online, I think. In the film or music or comics forums, everyone can see or read or listen to the same thing in the same month, and so can happily yatter away about it at length. Comics threads don’t ever last very long if only one person has read the comic in question. The music thread has plenty of chit-chat about albums but comparatively little about gigs. Theatre hardly ever gets a look in anywhere. I reckon there’s no way you’re going to get a very active forum discussing exhibitions without Barbelith all living in the same town.

So. Here’s an idea. Make a thread for your exhibition space, and you, Olula, can be first curator. Pick your favourite painting (or two if you want, whatever), and post up an image and tell us why it rings your bell. Start a discussion that way. Pick something you’re happy fielding questions about, about which there’s plenty to be said/asked/answered/interpreted. And, when we’ve exhausted that one, then someone else can have a go to tell us all about their favourite painting, one after the other. It could be a long-running thing, a bit equivalent to the Barbelith commonplace thread in books, but with the kind of groovy art-talk you can get up to in real galleries.

Because there are loads of us who can and will wax lyrical about art ‘n stuff. But we’re going to need a shared subject in order to have a discussion, and “I saw blah exhibition at blah gallery” isn’t ever going to provide that. So, go ahead and pick a subject, pick a painting. Maybe all the forum needs a kind of central thread which other discussions can spin off from and relate back to. I think it’s possible to talk about how you react to a picture without oodles of theory; and anyway, the heavy theory stuff always ends up in the Headshop. This is the Spectacle: show us some pictures, lets react. Artistically, like.
 
 
Nobody's girl
18:26 / 14.03.04
Fantastic idea Bed Head!
 
 
Olulabelle
20:49 / 15.03.04
What a lovely idea.

Damn you Bedhead for making me go first! I have been thinking and thinking about which paintings to post here, and I have narrowed it down to three. So since I think they're all worthy of discussion (and I am incapable of making my mind up) I'm going to post all three, but I'm going to do it in a new thread.

I'd like to amend the rules just a little bit if that's OK, in that I think we shouldn't say why we have chosen a particular painting, because if we do then I think we already close the discussion down slightly. I think its important that people feel free to say what they choose, and they may not do so if the painting chooser has waxed lyrical for ten pages about it.

I also think that the pictures we choose must be ones we personally have something to say about, and that we shouldn't just choose a picture for the sole purposes of engendering riotous discussion. Basically, posters should follow this rule: 'If it doesn't mean something to you, don't choose it.'

I think this will be fun, fantabulous thinking from Thomas Lovell over there.
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
21:14 / 15.03.04
The 'show and tell' idea is a good one. show us what you got. Agree on the 'shared reference' thing. That's why Film,TV & Theatre has precisely 0 theatre threads.

will have a think about some topic ideas.
 
 
Snowblinded.com
15:17 / 03.04.04
Design has not gone downhill!!!

Interactive design and graphic design has grown so much in last 2 years. My take on design is, because of the horrible economy in the US the creative industry has been hit hard. When large companies struggle, the advertising department is one of the first things to go. This, in turn leaves a lot of designers and advertising creatives out of work.

So what have all these unemployed designers been doing with there time? Well, they have been keeping busy experimenting with design and interactivity and the results are jaw-dropping! Don't believe me? Check out www.wellvetted.com. Wellvetted is a collection of industry leading designers and design firms that once a month pick there favorite web site on the web.
 
 
TeN
00:34 / 20.04.04
http://www.barbelith.com/topic/16928
I posted that, but no one has responded.
it's been there for a week.
 
 
Warewullf
11:53 / 21.04.04
This is going to sound weird, but I find it very hard to have an opinion about art aside from "It's nice" or "It looks crap" (which is very odd given that I'm an artist.)

That's why I don't post in this area of the 'Lith.

Ok, for example, the links that TeN posted. I've looked at them. What do I think? Some of them are nice. Some of them aren't. Hardly post-worthy.

Art (and this forum) has that aura about it that demands insightful, well-thought-out, literate and clever comments which scares a lot of people away. Suppose I say a particular piece of art is good, twenty people will come on and post in-depth resons as to why it isn't. And I feel like a twat for having said anything in the first place.
 
  
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