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Analysis of If on a Winter's night a traveller

 
 
Alex_DK
17:58 / 12.03.04
Hi everyone.

I need some help please, I'm reading Calvino's If on a Winter's night a traveller, and i have to analyse it. Does any of you have some good sites on the internet, prefer english, where i can read an analyse of it?

Please send med some links if you have.
Thank you very much!

Alex_DK (binotheworm@hotmail.com)
 
 
Grey Area
18:20 / 12.03.04
1. Put this into Google: calvino winter analysis
2. You will get approximately 2,150 results.
3. Trawl results.
4. Write essay.
 
 
Tom Coates
08:48 / 13.03.04
On the other hand it's not like it's not a fascinating book. Would be interesting to open it up for discussion... Has anyone else read it?
 
 
sleazenation
09:33 / 13.03.04
I really enjoyed the perverse streak that runs through the heart of this book. You enjoy this narrative? tough we are going to interrupt it. You like the chapters? tough are only going to get 30 pages or so of any of them.
 
 
sine
17:39 / 02.04.04
The use of unresolved narrative threads to crank up tension in the second person metaplot is a clever conceit. I wish I had thought of it...but before he did.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
22:34 / 02.04.04
This left me completely cold. Perhaps it's because I've never been convinced by a 2nd person narrative. It just seems so...gimmicky...to me. Personally, I'm inclined to identify with just about any first person narrator, no matter how different they are than me. But maybe that's because I'm over-empathetic.

Anyone want to defend 2nd person narration? I think it's basically useless and distracting. Unless you're playing Zork.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
01:05 / 23.04.04
Have you read any of Lorrie Moore's second person stories? "Self-Help" is a collection of them. They tend to have two effects - either they seem to implicate the reader (as in Calvino's) or function as self-talk even more close than first person (which always seems to talk to someone else; second person is almost addressing yourself) - which is what Moore's stories do.

As far as "If" is concerned, I was thinking about it and I do think that works, partly because there is such a blur between the "layers" - the books versus the narrative versus the you or me reading the book. How are we any different then the Reader and the Other Reader?

Probably one of the strongest sections was when Calvino breaks out and addresses both readers at once; you get the sense that the entire thing is focused at the male Reader, which raises questions of being 'shut out' for women readers (quite often in my fiction workshops, a lot of my male classmates have problems with women writing second person because it shuts them out as men), and then all of a sudden Ludmilla is addressed, as representative of female readers, and it throws the thing out the window. The question of her being a character is blurred as well all of a sudden.

Other favourite sections are the counterfeit country that the Reader is locked up in, and Silas Flannery's diary. What did people think of Flannery's diary? He gets a first person narrative, and it's an interesting meditation on getting caught up in real life events or situations that bleed into your stories...
 
 
sleazenation
15:23 / 23.04.04
Anyone want to defend 2nd person narration? I think it's basically useless and distracting. Unless you're playing Zork.

The point of the second person narration here is to directly and overtly address the reader the most problematic and varied character of the whole novel. It is making explicit that the simple act of reading is integral to how books narrate (or make meanings) to us, it then goes on to play with various relationships readers, and you as the reader, with the book they arre readeing...
 
 
Jester
15:58 / 25.04.04
Probably one of the strongest sections was when Calvino breaks out and addresses both readers at once; you get the sense that the entire thing is focused at the male Reader, which raises questions of being 'shut out' for women readers

That was exactly what I found. And the more specific the 2nd person narrator got (the more like a character in his own right), the less it worked for me.

Also, I hate first chapters of books. My brain is resistant to them or something. So, I can't identify at all with that concept of getting so involved you would go to such great lengths to hunt down the rest of the book(s).

It's also terribly gimmiky.

As for looking up analysis on the internet, I've found it's not so good for that most of the time. Come up with your own ideas, and then get down to the library.
 
 
Hallo, Paper Spaceboy
21:55 / 26.04.04
By and large I was more intrigued by some of the second person sections - the strange country with revolutionaries and counter-revolutionaries - and a couple of the stories (the paranoid billionaire's kidnapping), but I think I like _Invisible Cities_ better. It's not so much that it felt gimmicky, because I thought he was playing an interesting game, but at times it felt a bit less inspired (after a while you just wait for the next title and author to be slotted in and then you go to that story, et cetera).

I -did-, however, like that the titles of the books eventually merge into a single sentence. Still thinking about it, actually.
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
13:40 / 01.12.04
I'm about mid-way through it at the moment... I think it's a neat idea. It's also one which wouldn't work at all- would indeed fall hard on its arse- if he didn't make the individual chapters so gripping in themselves. (Thus far that hasn't been a problem).

I also like the inherent bigging up of bibliophiles. That makes me feel nice.
 
  
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