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Ex Machina

 
  

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sleazenation
19:24 / 28.09.04
Still not feeling it for this series -

The narrative feels hollow and reads like a liberal wish-fulfillment fantasy, which I guess it is in more ways than one. The artist character responsible for the controversial artwork come across as a 2-dimensional cliche, a plot device rather than a fully formed character.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
19:52 / 28.09.04
When are you going to stop reading it?
 
 
sleazenation
20:24 / 28.09.04
mods - I accidentally pressed the move topic button when I meant to press reply - any chance someone could kick it back into the comics forum?
 
 
Mazarine
20:34 / 28.09.04
In the works, chief.
 
 
sleazenation
21:19 / 28.09.04
As I was about to say before I accidentally threw this thread into the conversation...

I'll probably stick around for another issue or so - until the end of the first arc.
 
 
not-so-deadly netshade
12:09 / 07.10.04
Honestly...I can't get enough of this book. Probably the single comic I look forward to most each month right now. It's the current comic I give to non-comic readers. Haven't been this drawn into a new title since...I dunno...Preacher? the early days of Starman? Can't get enough!!!
 
 
FinderWolf
19:32 / 13.10.04
New issue today!
 
 
FinderWolf
15:14 / 18.11.04
I love this book.

Even the covers are groovy, experimenting with layout & form. And I love Tony Harris' art.
 
 
Mr Tricks
15:32 / 18.11.04
I do enjoy how dynamicly some of these conversations are rendered.

that poor dog... dysturbing indeed.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
17:31 / 18.11.04
Great fucking issue. Loved the "Tag" (graffitti, signature/marriage license, facial) subtext.

Top drawer all the way.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
08:18 / 19.11.04
Tony Harris is an artists whose learning curve is extraordinary. Compare early Starman with his sterling work here.

Really liked this. Just a very satisfying read as always. Liking the eeking out of big plot points, alongside the bantering.
 
 
X-Himy
04:23 / 21.11.04
Just read it. Fan-fucking-tastic. I will have to write more when I can, but absolute excellent work.
 
 
X-Himy
22:37 / 21.11.04
Ok, after reading issue six a couple times, I think I can say that this is one of the best things on the shelf. Not just for long time comics fans, but almost more importantly, for those that are not comics fans. I do not feel the plots are decompressed, but move at a cinematic pace, where things happen but there is also character development. The penultimate page of issue six, with four consecutive shots of Mitchell? In a decompressed comic, that would have been the entire book. But in Ex Machina, it is used near the end, for the dramatic (but unsurprising ending based on previous characterization). I like the past-present narrative, where character is built along with current storyline. For instance, in this issue we have insights to Mitchell's character after the mishigas he goes through in the past which is building upon what we know. It is also relevant to what is already in the issue.

You don't need to know a particular Kirby-era Fantastic Four issue to understand a particular reference in this comic, nor do you need to know that it was Amazing 121 where Gwen Stacy died. It feels relevant and personal, while not feeling "relevant." Top notch stuff this is.
 
 
The Falcon
23:44 / 21.11.04
It's how recognisable, visually and verbally, each character is that's really impressed me.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:42 / 22.11.04
Excellent call, Duncs. That's one of my favorite things about this book, all the bona fide individuals that populate it. I reread 1-6 this weekend and I'm really hard pressed to find anything outside of We3 or Seaguy that that is more immaculately put together on every level. I'd have to give Ex Mach the square for being an ongoing series.

I'm just sad that it'll only go to 50. I wanted, like, a zillion issues.
 
 
The Falcon
16:47 / 22.11.04
Fiddy's good; I like finitude.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
19:59 / 22.11.04
I agree. If it can maintain this quality for 50 issues I'll stick around. Comics don't have to go on forever (Starman being a good example of a comic with the end always in sight). Doom Patrol should have ended when Grance left it (did in my eyes anyway) and Shade shoulda finished when Kathy popped her clogs.
 
 
sleazenation
22:32 / 22.11.04
So no-one had a problem with the two dimensional enfant terrible artist and her kung-fu antics?
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
22:52 / 22.11.04
Aw, that was just a little Tae Bo, and no more ridiculous then her brandishing a Blowtorch at poor Journal.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
10:24 / 23.11.04
So no-one had a problem with the two dimensional enfant terrible artist and her kung-fu antics?

Sure it ain't perfect, but I honestly find the comic fresh and constantly entertaining stuff. I read charcters waaaaaaay more 2D than her.
 
 
FinderWolf
13:24 / 23.11.04
Agreed, MacGuyver. (if anything, I thought the blowtorch was a bit much, moreso than the taebo. She could have singed Journal's face off!!)
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
20:17 / 23.11.04
Normally I like my characters to be five-dimensional - that's why I'm such a big fan of Grice Moribund - but in this case I was happy for Trista Braving to merely have width and height.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
23:27 / 23.11.04
And just seeing those fucking names in print. Trista Braving. Mitchell Hundred. Journal. There's something special going on with this book.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:54 / 24.11.04
that Gene Parmesan joke from Arrested Development this week seems to be all over the net in a flash...

I keep meaning to look up Brandywine Hundred, the real-life name Mitchell refers to in #1 when talking about his ancestors...
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
16:16 / 24.11.04
I fielded two phone calls on Monday as the good Mr. Parmesan, as a matter of fact. Now let's just see some more chicken on the streets!

COKA COKA COKA!

And now, back to the topic.

I don't want to link directly to it, but if you check out Vaughn's forum, Tony Harris has posted a link to a zip file of the entire promotional Ex Mach CD Rom they gave away at the Isotope on Election Day, Deconstructing The Machine, featuring tons of behind the scenes stuff. I haven't seen it yet, but it's supposedly filled to the brim with goodness.

Go. Get it. Now.

"Maybe I'll use it to take a picture of Uncle Oscar's Charlie Browns next time he's on top of you, mother."
 
 
FinderWolf
16:37 / 24.11.04
Augie deBlieck, over at comicbookresources.com, had this to say about the latest issue of Ex Machina, and I kind of agree with him on this, although it's really a minor weakness at best (like the artist brandishing a blowtorch at Journal)...

>> I did think, however, that the page of dialogue between the sewer workers was rather unnecessary. It feels like Vaughan realized he had four pages to fill and only two pages of story. Not too long ago, it would have been filled with Tarantino-like pop culture deconstruction. Here, it's packed with descriptions of pornographic websites. It goes nowhere, aside from killing time.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
19:49 / 24.11.04
It's to point up the fact that the Mayor isn't getting laid. Seriously.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
20:45 / 24.11.04
It was just another example of a "tag" and, you know, it's versimilitudinous if you've ever been around New York City construction workers while listening to Howard Stern.
 
 
The Falcon
00:14 / 25.11.04
Would-be Republican martyr Augie de Blieck cuts no ice with me, my friend.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
12:49 / 25.11.04
Phew! I thought I was the only one, Duncan.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
18:17 / 25.11.04
Oh I assume that's just taken as read by most of us, isn't it? Like that guy who's one of those two guys who has quite good taste but always always writes sentences like "I don't have mutant powers. I've never fought an insane supervillain. But I *can* relate to being a scared and lonely teenager."
 
 
FinderWolf
16:34 / 27.11.04
I don't always agree with Augie but I never knew his political leanings. I don't even read his column that frequently, but just wanted to point out that one point he made - but I think you're right that it's to emphasize Mitchell's lack of a sex life, plus just some playful NYC realism.
 
 
The Falcon
12:07 / 28.11.04
God, did you not read that col where he was literally wetting himself about the new line of neocon, real-life Gulf War II comics from Marvel, straw-man style?

No?

Neither did I. But I read about it.
 
 
FinderWolf
12:45 / 17.12.04
New issue out. Good stuff, although some rather conspicious and kinda lame-looking use of xeroxed panels as close-ups in here. I don't normally have a problem with xeroxed panels, but twice in this issue it's used and it just looks very weak and conspicious. Otherwise great.

Very curious about the symbol and how it moves around and changes shape.
 
 
Mr Tricks
17:03 / 17.12.04
I'm not sure the "tag" actually changes shape. Those 2 women where riding a moving subway. I suspect that what the "blond" saw was a series of variant tags that when viewed in succession create an animated strobascopic (is that a word?) effect; the result of viewing is rather drastic. She says as much when refering to a Zoatrope.

At least for me, this element ties into a sort of living "alien language." Especailly when you consider this was a factor in Hundred's ability to communicate with machinery.
 
  

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