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Explaining Magick

 
 
phrankphutta
00:19 / 09.03.04
I'm just beginning to get into practical magick and performing different little workings to get a feel for the whole thing, but I often get distracted by my surroundings. I've decided the best way around this is to devote a space in my home to my workings and furnish/decorate it only with things that will keep my mind on track (artwork, etc). The problem is, my live-in girlfriend of three years is a "straight-thinking" semi-conservative skeptic-type, and has no idea what I'm getting into, and I think I'll have a hard time explaining all the crazy-looking magick shit to her.

The question is, how did some of you explain something like practising modern magick to your loved ones (whom you knew would think you'd gone completely bat-shit looney)?

Oh, and ditching her isn't an option...I love her madly (I guess opposites attract)!
 
 
Z. deScathach
07:10 / 09.03.04
Hey, there's hope in that. My partner was a born-again Christian. Made for interesting conversations! We loved each other very much, (she died).
If she really loves you, she'll work through it. I can't really give you any advice as to how to describe magick to her. You know her better than anyone else, avoid statements that you think will scare the hell out of her. Beyond that, it's really up to her. Good luck.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
11:26 / 09.03.04
Use the psychology model, Luke.

"Oh, sure, I strip naked and daub myself with cabbalistic symbols and dance around in the woods with treacle in my hair every second Wednesday, but I'm only doing it to reprogramme my mind. See, ritual has a strong psychological impact, and so performing a ritual can help you focus on your goals. It's really no different to standing in front of the mirror and saying 'Every day and in every way, I am getting better and better.'"
 
 
Shanghai Quasar
11:39 / 09.03.04
Discuss your beliefs openly... if she asks. Explain them in as much or little detail as she cares to hear, allowing her to read your books or pick your brain if she is just generally curious. Let her get away with a few playful quips about your silly beliefs but don't allow yourself to be pushed too far.

Also, stick with magic(k)al things she'll find at least partly aesthetically pleasing or that can be hidden away under a blanket when not in use.

Or both.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
12:50 / 09.03.04
This question might seem a little weird but- have you wondered if there's a reason you're getting distracted. Maybe the ritual wants you to use something?
 
 
phrankphutta
16:23 / 09.03.04
Anna, that could very well be a possiblity...I'll keep my mind peeled and see what transpires!

As for the matter at hand...all very good pieces of advice. What I think I'll do is just go ahead with it and let her come to me with questions, if she has any. Who knows, maybe she won't notice/care enough to ask ("Oh, he's just scribbling wacky shit all over the walls again...I wonder what's on TV right now?")

...it'd be a lot easier if I could just feed her a healthy dose of psylocybin and explain it from there.
 
 
Boy in a Suitcase
16:38 / 10.03.04
Just give her the eighth degree
 
 
Earlier than I thought
19:30 / 10.03.04
Art. Say it's Art. That's what I always do. 'Meditation, love. Living a more Artistic lifestyle and that. You know, like him off that programme you like'.
Then she kicked me arse all over the place, but it was worth a try.
The Crowley biography I was reading when I said it didn't help matters.
 
 
FinderWolf
19:40 / 10.03.04
I actually had this come up recently with my girlfriend -- what I did (with the input/advice of another frequent Lith poster) was start with the tiniest concepts imaginable and slowly introducing them to her. For example, first I would talk about synchronicity and uncanny coincidence and tell her little anecdotes about that from my life. She would then go "Yeah, that's really freaky when that happens" and list stuff from her life that was incredible synchronicity. Then I'd mention that I think that stuff has meaning, that it happens for a reason.

I also mentioned that I was really into spiritual stuff and was always fascinated by unexplained phenomena, mysticism, the idea of psychic powers, etc. This slowly set the groundwork and introduced these topics. She learned that about me in very small stages, very gradually introduced over time. Once she'd gotten used to one and it was no big deal, I'd slowly introduce the next.

The next one was affirmations and the idea that we create our own reality, attracting to us people and experiences we need to learn, grow, face our fears, etc. (This also wasn't too far fetched to her since psychology says we do the same thing - we subconsciously attract people, friends, events that will play out our fears, issues, etc.) That led to me mentioning that Philip K. Dick wrote some stories that later came true. That led to the idea that maybe you could write a story (I didn't use the word sigil or hypersigil yet, that would be too much, I thought) and maybe it would come true soon. Talked about the will, destiny, free will as it relates to destiny, got all metaphysical.

Small doses, my friend. Just like inoculation.
 
  
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