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19:00 / 08.03.04
Hi all.
I'm starting up a dissertation on comics reportage, examining issues of reliability and the growth of the editorial cartoon into full length factual journalism (as opposed to comment and opinion cartoons). I've been casting around for a while, and have got the obvious ones, like Joe Kubert, Ted Rall, Joe Sacco. I have a few other bits and bobs, but I was wondering if anyone knew of anyone else in the field. Harvey Pekar sort of counts, but I want to steer away from straight biography. Marjane Satrapi is interesting, but I think it falls outside my remit a little.
I also cannot get hold of a copy of Brough to Light. If anyone knows where I can get one (even on loan) I'd be very happy.
 
 
sleazenation
19:09 / 08.03.04
Maus? - or is that too close to autobiography?
 
 
sleazenation
21:10 / 08.03.04
Interesting topic for your dissertation by the way. Have you framed what you consider to be comics journalism ? At what point does reportage/ become documentary? Is there a time limit? How about editorial distance?

By the by If you get the chance its prolly worth featuring/writing to political cartoonist Martin Rowson (follow the link for his CV)

Also it might be an idea to get in contact with the ICA, last year Joe Sacco was interviewed there about comics reportage by Rowson. It was very interesting and the ICA recorded the event, You might be able to get them to send you a copy of the tape...

hope all goes well
 
 
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05:48 / 09.03.04
Generally, I think there is a time-sensitive element. You know, sort of like the requirement to be contemporaneous, accurate and balanced to avoid getting sued. It's a simplification, I know, but there is so much that is clearly biography, and quite a bit of history around, but as far as I can see, there is very little of work such as Sacco and Rall's, and I wonder if there's a good reason ofr it. Ted Rall getting dropped by the NYT forms part of the argument, I think, where the space and quality pressures on editorial cartoons are forcing people to self-publish, which is linked to the self-publishing by Sim etc. to maintain editorial independence, even if it results in partisan reporting: which Sacco and Rall, despite being great, certainly are.
I had thought of Rowson, but couldn't bring any strips to mind which were clearly reporting rather than comment. Steve Bell's Maggie's Farm is a pretty good idea I had last night after posting, though.
 
 
sleazenation
06:06 / 09.03.04
Interesting. If there is indeed a time-sensitive element to true comics journalism then doesn't this also limit the types of news that cartoonists can follow, particularly longform guys such as Sacco and Kubert. Creating comics takes time. One panel cartoon take the least amount of time so have the best chance of remaining 'current'. If you are planning a longer exploration you need to pick an ongoing situation that's unlikely to change soon otherwise your journalism runs the risk of becoming a historical documentary and one that is no longer high with news value, or do you disagree?
 
 
gem
09:37 / 09.03.04
shame, you just missed an ebay auction for a copy of brought to light.

I loved it when it came out - using swimming pools of blood as a scale for measuring the human cost of covert US interventionism was a powerful device
 
 
gem
09:44 / 09.03.04
"Also it might be an idea to get in contact with the ICA, last year Joe Sacco was interviewed there about comics reportage by Rowson. It was very interesting and the ICA recorded the event, You might be able to get them to send you a copy of the tape..."

It was a great event - Rawson was a last minute stand in for Tariq Ali, and I thought he did a sterling job.
I believe there are plans to transcribe the 'in conversation with' and compile them, in some edited form, into a document which will most likely be published in time for this year's Comica programme. I don't know what time scale this will be actually be happening by though, but if it pans out it will most likely be useful for your dissertation.
 
 
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14:43 / 09.03.04
Ah, forgot the abstract. Never been gender neutral before. Interesting. Anyway, I dodn't miss the Brought to Light auction, I bidded it up to 20 quid then got cold feet. Bugger, it only went for 22 The postage was a bit high, tho'. Grr. Oooh, look there's another one!
I think the time sensitivity is an important issue, and one which is increasingly one which may form the core of the dissertation. It's not as easy to draw quickly as it is to write (natch), and the lead time for mainstream comic supply is very long. I'm interested in whether anyone has managed to beat these problems. Still a bit vague, but it's at that materials gathering stage, so what I need is suggestions for people I wouldn't normally have thought of.
Anyone know of European or Japanese people who do this sort of thing? Hmm. Time for some Trondheim research.
 
 
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14:48 / 09.03.04
That reminds me, does anyone have Paul Gravett's email they could PM me? I used to have it buried in my PMail address book, but I'm not sure if it's current. Thankew...
 
 
BrianWmson
18:07 / 21.03.04
You might look at:
http://www.team-alternator.com/non-fiction/

What about artists doing on-site drawing? Steve Brodner frequently gets sent to events to draw on location. Alan Cober's book Forgotten Society is a great collection of drawings from prisons and mental institutions. Neither artist really works/worked in a sequential form, but they both use writing, quotations and occasionally speech balloons. The school of Visual Arts in New York used to have a degree called "The artist as journalist" where they trained illustrators to document, interview and draw stories from life. I believe Marshall Arisman was connected with it.

I started off doing my grad. project on reportage drawing (from the pictorial press to the present) but then switched over to comics journalism. I've been working on producing a series of shorter stories in comics form. The biggest struggle I've had has been the time issue. Most traditional text-based stories are written in a couple of days. Some of my stories have been dragging on for months.

Oh, and check out Sue Coe--totally lacking in the "objectivity" department. She's done a bunch of stories on animal rights. She toured meat packing plants for a decade. I think her book is called Dead Meat, but she's also had some stories in Blab.

And Josh Neufeld? But perhaps he's too autobiographical.
What about the artists in World War III?

Good luck.
 
 
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20:37 / 21.03.04
OOh, nice. Thanks for the links. When you say World War III, do you mean the strip in Crisis or something else?
 
 
BrianWmson
03:07 / 22.03.04
World War III is a semi-regular collection of comics stories that range from liberal propaganda to comics journalism (there are a couple of reprint collections that show the highlights). It was started 25 years ago by Peter Kuper and Seth Tobocman. Tobocman has a couple of non-fiction comics out, including one about his trip to Israel. Kuper did a collection of travel stories (Comics Trip???)

Another person you should look into is David Collier, a canadian cartoonist who's focused on non-fiction and autobiographical comics. I think he did a regular comics journalism type feature in a newspaper for awhile.
 
  
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