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Garth Marenghi's Darkplace

 
 
Chubby P
08:38 / 05.03.04
Did anyone watch this series? It was the last episode last night and definately the best. The 80s pop video was fantastic which was made all so much funnier by Dean Thorntons rap.

For anyone who missed it it was a series about a horror writers 80s TV show. Each week they showed an episode with comments from the actors inbetween scenes. The series is set in a hospital in Romford that is sat on a hell portal or something. The writer is also the star of the show (and whistler of the theme tune). Think Miami Vice, the Twighlight Zone, Sapphire and Steele thrown into a blender with an abundance of British satire and this is what you get. The monsters look fake. The men are all tough guys. The woman are all over emotional. There are loads of little gags that if you blink you will miss.

The best character is the wooden Dean Thornton (actor and producer)with his montonal voice and ability to pull a shotgun out of nowhere everytime he faces danger.

Anyway I should've put this thread up when the series started rather than when it finished. This and Drectors Commentary are two great new comedy series.
 
 
Ganesh
08:46 / 05.03.04
I like it and I can see the point of it, but somehow Darkplace just doesn't engage me much. I'm not sure whether the joke itself (the ludicrousness of '80s television) is a little thin, or whether I'm the wrong age to find the parody new and/or exciting.
 
 
_pin
10:02 / 05.03.04
Dean Thornton is about the only funny thing in this. Well, also the version of it that's in my head. The version in my head that I thought when I heard about this was fucking hilarious.

The problem is he's spoofing stuff that doesn't really need spoofing (and I fucking know someone who like this show who won't actually admit that it's a spoof of anything. Please dear God, Ganesh, can you diagnose this man for me so I can get help for him?), while simultanously trying to be The Kingdom and never actually acknowledging it.

The whole thing seems pointless (because obviously all the people who made Miami Vice were really serious... ), but I'd let it off that if I found it even remotely funny.

I also ahte this show way more just because of my friend who won't admit to it not being a spoof (apparently it's all about laughing at Marenghi, and nothing else at all).
 
 
Ganesh
10:31 / 05.03.04
Heh. I think it's a fairly non-specific spoof - that is, it takes the piss out of a particular style of '80s television rather than any one specific show - but it's still a spoof.

The boy needs medicine.
 
 
Ganesh
10:32 / 05.03.04
Pin, does your friend have any theories as to why we're laughing at Marenghi?
 
 
Chubby P
10:34 / 05.03.04
Maybe this could help your friend? Matthew Holness
 
 
Spaniel
11:21 / 05.03.04
Pin, your friend sounds very, very, very annoying.
I happen to know the sound guys that worked on the show; tell the twat from me that the creators of DP fully intended it to spoof 80s TV. Actually, on second thought, just punch him. If he can't work it out for himself, he deserves no better.

As for Dark Place, well, I like it. Not too many belly laughs but plenty of smirky fun. IMO, the series has a homely quality that's difficult to define. Perhaps it something to do with my 80s childhood?
 
 
DaveBCooper
11:34 / 05.03.04
I can see why Pin's pal felt we’re meant to be laughing at Marenghi – the show was meant never to have been shown in the 80s, and Dean and Garth’s constant claims about it being dangerous etc seem to suggest a level of delusion which it’s hard NOT to laugh at.

I know that it’s meant to have been shelved by C4 in the 80s, and I’ve come across a lot of people categorically stating it’s a spoof of 80s TV (not least at the Cook’d and Bomb’d ‘comedy chat’ forum , where about 12 pages of often inadvertently amusing posts have emerged in reaction to the show), but to my mind it’s more like a spoof of bad TV full stop – or, possibly, a joke in that Marenghi’s supposed to have genuinely believed that this show was acceptable (or better) TV when he made it in the 80s.

Which is, again, more of a laugh at his expense than at a specific decade’s TV output. But I suspect it’s a combination of mocking bad TV shows (of whatever vintage) and mocking the character. And of course aiming to mock bad TV shows makes for a crafty defence if people say it’s a bad show…

I enjoyed it quite a lot, some weeks more than others, but always made a point of watching it, and there was always something in there to amuse. The music was oddly good, I thought (particularly the song last night; I really liked the fact that the ‘transition’ line back to reality about opening the door was totally clumsy – the whole thing felt like a Baywatch sequence), and the little conceits - like the ad-break captions and the closing ‘… in association with Dean Learner’ line being hurried to fit in – were very well done.

Certainly better than a lot of the bilge that's to be found in the glass bucket most nights of the week.
 
 
■
11:56 / 05.03.04
The stage show nearly made me wet myself. The TV show, well, I forgot to watch most of it.
 
 
Spaniel
12:11 / 05.03.04
Okay, Dave, did you actually read my post?

The fact is that the show sets out to spoof popular 80s TV shows. This is the intent of the creators. Whilst you may feel - quite rightly - that its remit can be stretched to cover all bad television, there is no doubt whatsoever that it targets the idiosyncracies of popular 80s television.

As for laughing at Marenghi himself - but of course, the man's fucking demented.
 
 
Chubby P
12:14 / 05.03.04
Just discovered its Dean Learner not Dean Thorton. Oops.

Now if Pins friend sees this he'll be convinced its all real. www.garthmarenghi.com
 
 
Saveloy
12:26 / 05.03.04
Yeah, it's spoofing a certain type of 80s TV and it's spoofing a certain kind of 70s/80s Brit horror writer and their output, innit? James Herbert, and whoever it was that wrote all those books about giant worms and crabs that kept WHSmith going back then. Who was that, btw?

I'm gutted I missed last night's episode, because I loved the series and got several loud laughs out of it. I liked the fact that it came across as an affectionate poke, and the fact that Garth looked like a cross between one of my friends and that bloke in Can who had the big sidies. And the guy who did the voice of the other doctor (Todd something?) should get a Bafta for that.
 
 
DaveBCooper
12:40 / 05.03.04
Bobossboy : Thanks, yes, read your post, thought you made a fair point, but you have to understand that your quoting someone quoting the creators' intentions pushed it into the realms of hearsay, so I thought that I'd go ahead and voice my first-hand opinion evidence nevertheless.

Saveloy : I think it was Guy N. Smith who wrote about crabs and the like, though I remember reading interviews with Shaun Hutson where he came over in much the same way as Merenghi does - leather jacket, too.
And yes, Sanch had a great voice. Good hair 'n all.
 
 
Spaniel
13:54 / 05.03.04
Bang on the money, Saveloy.

Hearsay, well, yes. And I have a shitload more where that came from - not sure I can be bothered, however.

I suppose what I want to say is this: are you seriously trying to tell me that DP isn't intended to be an 80s TV spoof?
 
 
Gary Lactus
12:45 / 09.03.04
(Spaliance)

The guy that owns the sound studio that does the show is pretty much close, close, close family to Boboss and I and, well, it's not bleedin' hearsay when he tells me his remit was to make the show sound like a cheesy eighties pisstake. Obviously directorial intent and reader interpretation may differ, but let's have no more bullshit re the aforementioned intention.

If you like, Dave, imagine the director's/writer's hand up my arse working the mouth muscles for me.

Mmmm. Real good.
 
 
macrophage
13:06 / 09.03.04
Can't say I can get into that series I always nip off to mediatate or go on the net. Now Guy N. Smith whatever happened to him?? Guy N. Smith beats Shaun Hutson hands down in a Horror Celebrity Death Match I'd wager, I'd imagine Shaun Hutson spends most of his time in the dressing room doing his hair whilst Guy N. Smith is imagining himself to be a huge Crab ready to kick spandex ass!!!
 
 
Warewullf
17:01 / 09.03.04
I really wanted to like this show. It's the sort of TV I would normally like, but, as Ganesh said, it just doesn't engage. Frankly, It's just not that funny and I feel like I've seen it before. Y'know, the deliberately bad dialogue, poor continuity, shaky camerawork etc.

It's a less funny version of Acorn Antiques.
 
 
Jack Fear
15:48 / 28.07.06
US Viewers: Sci-Fi Channel has begun airing this. First episode aired last night—I missed it, alas—but they're running back-to-back episodes for the next three Thursdays.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
17:43 / 01.09.06
I just caught an episode on youtube and can see why someone would dislike it.

While Darkplace is a very good spoof of 80's American TV... it teeters dangerously only being only that... and that's the formula for the very unfunny 'Police Squad' TV program.

The saving grace for me is the inclusion of 'candid' present day interviews.

I'd like to see more... and just missed the US Sci-Fi transmission... lucky me.
 
 
buttergun
20:24 / 01.09.06
>>US Viewers: Sci-Fi Channel has begun airing this. First episode aired last night—I missed it, alas—but they're running back-to-back episodes for the next three Thursdays. <<

Are you sure about that? I caught that first episode back in late July, and programmed my VCR to record a block of hours on Sci-Fi every Thursday. But they never aired the show again -- it was usually that Ghost Chasers stuff, or whatever it is.
 
 
Panic
04:21 / 06.09.06
They ran the rest of the episodes past Midnight Sunday/Monday morning. It didn't do too well, apparently, so that's it for reruns. Unfortunately.

"She was like a candle in the wind. Unreliable"
 
 
Feverfew
17:48 / 02.10.06
Apparently this is going into repeats tomorrow.

Also...

All this time on...

A DVD release! Two weeks today, according to Play.

I thought this was good when it came out - I wouldn't say brilliant, but it did have it's shining moments - so I'm pretty much thrilled...

Anybody else, well, remember this?
 
 
Feverfew
20:15 / 16.10.06
Two weeks on!

Also, I was in London for work today, and just so happened to walk down to the Virgin Megastore in Picadilly Circus at around 5 and just so happened to wait around for an hour and a half to get my copy signed by Garth, Todd and Dean (all impressively in character).

All would have been slightly improved if they hadn't played the theme music. On a loop. For two hours. After around play #64 it became a little easier to block out.

Still, 'Garth' and 'Dean' are perfectly nice, and 'Todd' was in character as a run-down, alcoholic actor, with a bottle of Laphroag Whisky in front of him. At least, I hope he was in character.

I'm also bumping this thread because Channel Four are running a new program; "Man to Man with Dean Learner", this Friday night. The trailer can apparently be found here. It looks... Well... "Interesting"?
 
 
MattShepherd: I WEDDED KALI!
08:43 / 20.01.07
I can see on Wikipedia that several episodes of Man to Man with Dean Learner have now been aired -- anyone watch 'em? Any good?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
09:32 / 20.01.07
I saw the tail-end of one by accident and thought it was possibly the least hilarious thing that Channel 4 have ever aired.

And that takes some doing.
 
 
Feverfew
18:47 / 03.09.07
For those that care - yes, both of you - Man to Man with Dean Learner is out on DVD today.

I tend to agree with Wang's assessment above, but I didn't see past the first episode, so I'm willing to give it a second chance in the hope that DVD viewing will prove better than the Channel 4 experience.
 
  
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