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Fantomas: delirium cordia

19:09 / 25.02.04

anyone else heard this? i wasn't too sure the first time i put it on. the second time i was in a darkened room and incredibly high; i had to turn it off, it scared the bejesus out of me, lol. now i can't stop listening to it. it's wonderful, magical, bewitching &c... best album packaging i've seen in a long time too. also, anyone heard of Rahzel? mp is touring with them now. interested to know what they're like. some kind of noise outfit i guess.

m

21:33 / 25.02.04

Haven't heard Delirium yet, but I did score a copy of Director's Cut last week, and I gotta say that I'm pretty impressed. I've always been a little skeptical of Mike Patton projects, but these Fantomas records have been pretty right on.

21:57 / 25.02.04

I know Mike Patton's stuff isn't for everybody, its just a little too out there. So many different styles and influences comming at you, one right after another, its hard for most people to absorb it all.

Still, you have to respect what they're doing, right?

21:57 / 25.02.04

director's cut is kinda mainstream compared to delirium or their first album. i use 'mainstream' very loosely though, just relative to their other releases. delirium is really something else. well worth picking up. it took a few listens to grow on me though. have you heard his ep with dillenger escape plan? i thought that was fairly impressive too. i havent yet heard a lot of his other projects. he seems to have something new out every other week.

m

22:13 / 25.02.04

Actually, it's just Mike Patton's voice that tends to disagree with me. His greatest talent seems to lie in his ability to surround himself with really great musicians. Lately, that is.

HERE BE NO DRAGONET

18:20 / 26.02.04

The first time i've herad it, i got upset with the "1 track album" factor. But listening again made me remind of the angelo badalamenti scores for David Lynch films. Like the first album, but a litle more "moody".

oh, and sorry about the english, anyway.

The Return Of Rothkoid

04:10 / 10.03.04

It's not a bad album, but isn't the band at their finest, I think. While he's basically had the horn for Zorn for a while now, there's pretty much a big smell of Absinthe-era Naked City on here... it's been done before, and I think a little more successfully.

Art direction is, however, outstanding.

04:17 / 10.03.04

haven't heard it yet, but I don't know, Fantômas is one of the greatest "new" bands to me. those interested can check this Mike Patton covers lits I'm trying to put together in this other Barbelith topic.

The Return Of Rothkoid

12:26 / 10.03.04

If you've not heard Naked City, I suggest you hold off on saying they're one of the greatest new bands. He's copping pretty liberally from their way of doing things...

14:51 / 10.03.04

I don't see a problem there.

Professor Silly

17:59 / 10.03.04

I was fully prepared to start making Naked City comparisons when I first heard this new album--Book 1 compared with Torture Garden, Director's Cut compared with Radio, and Delirium Cordia compared with Leng Tchi....

Upon listening to this album further I decided the comparison just doesn't hold up. DC seems more in line with Zorn's Filmworks projects, especially Volume 2 (music for an untitled film by Walter Hill). The difference between them betrays Patton's genius: the Zorn album was made to go with a film, while the new Fantomas album needs no accompaniment (unless you count the darkened room and the bong). It communicates feelings (dread, giddiness, anger, lighthearted laughter) purely through sound. Absinthe doesn't communicate much of anything to me, and seems to serve best as "framing" for the other Naked City projects (I have all of my NC tracks on my X-Box so I can listen to it all in random order--it seems to work so much better this way than album by album).

To be fair, I've enjoyed each Fantomas album for very different reasons as each has been released, and my tastes obviously don't jive with the mainstream...and I've been a fan of Naked City for years as well...so...oh, I don't know.

I am very much looking forward to the other album from Fantomas later this year, which I've heard will have more of a Carl Stalling/cartoon feel. This doesn't really make much of an arguement against the Patton-ripping-off-Zorn argument, but I'm excited none-the-less.

The Return Of Rothkoid

01:06 / 11.03.04

Oh, I don't think it's a ripping-off thing at all - Patton works with him frequently and his solo discs are on Tzadik, Zorn's label. (And he produced Bungle's first album, yadda yadda.) I just think there's not a lot new about it. It's a similar process, and it's good - but it is derived from Zorn, whether that's a master-student process or not.

What you're saying about the filmworks stuff seems pretty solid, additionally. Does Zorn even bother watching the flicks any more before he churns out the music? I mean - it's my understanding that few of the filmworks pieces actually make it to the screen intact...

01:20 / 11.03.04

just to clear it up, Roth, when I said "new" I meant "newly formed band", not "a new sound" or anything like that.

m

02:35 / 12.03.04

What's with the topic abstract? I said I dug Fantomas.

m

23:32 / 30.03.04

So I finally heard Delirium. It was very good. I thought it sounded like left over bits from other Fantomas records edited together, and I don't mean that as a negative criticism. It's a great use of song fragments. Does anyone know who works the electronic stuff for the band? (synths, samples, drum machines, etc.)

m

00:30 / 31.03.04

Oh yeah, I almost forgot, I'm not Flux. That's another guy. That's two inaccuracies about me in the abstract. What's goin' on here?

The Return Of Rothkoid

05:22 / 01.04.04

I was always under the impression that Patton worked the samples and stuff... seemed that way whenever I've seen 'em play.