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22:57 / 10.02.04

This place seems dead, please tell me why. Who created this place anyway and what was it like in the beginning?

I thought that when i came here there was gonna be loads of people online all the time. Somebody please give me the URL of a mental magic based forum that has members online 24/7.

I need chaos! I DENE OSHCA!!!!!!!!!

Have you seen the night elf Goddess in the wallpaper thread? Why not?!?

Oh ocarina, my chaos juice is falling away by the minute, i can sense the real world coming back into view.........

OH BUDDHA! UP YOURS!!!

00:21 / 11.02.04

*sighs*

I knew we'd only disappoint you in the end. We always do.

STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK

00:48 / 11.02.04

Oh Jack, Jack... you set yourself such unattainable goals. Don't beat y'self up.

02:58 / 11.02.04

Nah i'm good Jack don't worry about it this place rocks, the best site i've visited so far honestly. That's probably why i'm going so fucking crazy. God knows what Grant Morrison's gonna do if he reads my Jack Frost thread in the magic forum though, i'm panicking like a mental duck on acid.

03:13 / 11.02.04

BTW i'm trying to get Jake Horsley's old forum back to life, it's about unplugging from consensus reality. Mods, if it's against board rules to do this just delete this post, no offence taken.

divinevirus

If you click on the link and are interested, please join before the fucking graveyard sprouts zombies and eats us all alive, we could do with some new members.

05:41 / 11.02.04

Jack, I joined and there seems to be a lot of talk about books there. I consider the book to be a format that distinctly promotes consensus reality. Can I attain Totality and the emergence of the Lucid or natural state without much reading? Is it possible to be a stalking and dreaming warrior while simultaneously avoiding books?

06:25 / 11.02.04

Of course you can! Thats how it was done before books where invented and how Shamans have done it for thousands of years i guess.

I'm Cosmic Stream there btw. I'm not an expert on it myself, but Jake gave me the ownership of the forum after he decided to move on and i've been trying to muddle my way through ever since. Why do you think the book promotes consensus reality though?

I'm not saying that there's nothing wrong with Matrix Warrior or anything, i really don't know and wouldn't be able to say unless i'd attained totality myself, but it really helped me realize and work out a load of stuff i had going on at the time. I still think it's one of my fave books.

Hopefully a lucid will turn up and give us the answers!

06:56 / 11.02.04

Why do you think the book promotes consensus reality though?

I was referring to the book format rather than any specific book. Of course, this applies to any unidirectional medium.

14:35 / 11.02.04

Ha, yeah sorry i think i realized this after i posted but i'm sick of annoying the mods so i just left it.

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14:53 / 11.02.04

Well, I've been busy honing my schtick as the Woody Allen of this forum.

14:58 / 11.02.04

How’d that thing work out for you by the way, Sypha? Revive your thread and tell us about the happy ending. Woody Allen always writes himself a happy ending.

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15:36 / 11.02.04

Well, still working at it Bed Head. been sick lately and haven't felt like going out much, so nothing new to report.

15:51 / 11.02.04

...We're hunting rabbits!

I am surprised no one else said it.

15:52 / 11.02.04

lol! Some days you just need your Elmer Fudd fix.

16:45 / 11.02.04

Hey i saw Speedy Gonzales the other day!

He escaped with cheese, Ariba Ariba!

The cat stood on loads of pins and stuff.

18:30 / 11.02.04

It's hard to pick which car looks better: the Aston Martin DB9 Coupe or the Volante.

18:53 / 11.02.04

I agree, it's hard.

I chose the coupe in the end.

19:40 / 11.02.04

I think the Volante might be just the thing to drive down through Alabama to the Gulf Coast, but if I lived in England I might agree with you.

ONLY NICE THINGS

22:45 / 11.02.04

Actually, if you really want to talk to Grant Morrison, the best bet used to be to contact the Warren Ellis forum and ask if he will put you in touch, I'm not sure how this works after the Warren Ellis forum closed down, but I'm sure there's some sort of channel of communication open. Mark Millar's forum might be a better bet.

Or there's Grant Morrison's web site. I imagine that has some sort of "contact me" link. Or you could write to one of the comics he is writing. To be honest, all of these are more likely to get him actually to read what you are writing than Barbelith. He has only turned up a couple of times on Barbelith, I think once to defend his girlfriend's cats and once to present a counterargument to a critique of the codex morrisoniensis, and both of these happened some years ago. I think that Barbelith, given that it is involved at this point only tangentially with his work, is not exactly top of his favourites list.

23:05 / 11.02.04

once to defend his girlfriend's cats

Oh man, you have got to be kidding! ‘Comic-book writer defends small cat from evil internet message board’, it sounds like the legendary ‘lost’ Doom Patrol story. Whereabouts can I find this astonishing act of gallantry?

ONLY NICE THINGS

23:34 / 11.02.04

Alas, it took place back in the dim and distant, before I had arrived. The board has died and been reborn a good few times since then.

It was all a misunderstanding, anyway. No actual cats were glassed in the making of this movie. And, in fact, I believe it may have been the girlfriend in question who expressed their mutual horror at the thought of cat-glassing. And good for them, say I.

00:11 / 12.02.04

If I were you J, I'd type in Crack Comics, read some of the letters, and ask yourself, honestly, why Grant Morrison is perhaps a bit more elusive than he used to be, maybe.
That said, I think there's a link on the Pop Magic page. Just don't hold your breath - those old punks, man, they can be a bit brutal.
Incidentally, have you read The Filth yet ? I'm assuming you have, but if not, well I'd leave it a while, but you probably should. As with everyone else in the creative arena, I'm not sure Grant Morrison is to entirely be trusted...

00:27 / 12.02.04

Oh man, you have got to be kidding! ‘Comic-book writer defends small cat from evil internet message board’...

Maybe not so unbelievable: a couple of years after that, he sent me a testy e-mail for making a flippant comment about him on the board. I verified the e-mail address with his collaborator, Cameron Stewart. Rizla got one, too, I think.

GM's manager and partner Kristan has posted a couple of times, I know that: if Grant lurks, he probably logs in using Kristan's suit.

So it's been established that Grant's got a thin skin, can't take a joke at his own expense, and has not realized that picking fights with people on message-boards is like running in the Special Olympics--cos even if you win, you're still a retard.

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02:23 / 12.02.04

Yeah Jack Frost, I'd advise avoiding The Filth for now also. Um, I started reading The Invisibles around winter of 2002 or so and read all of volume 3 on June 17 of that year, in one night. Emotionally, I had just started magic and I was in a good place at the time, and volume 3 of the Invisibles really inspired me. Then issue #1 of The Filth comes out a week or two later and I get it, don't know what to make of it at first... And as each issue comes out I start getting sicker and sicker, my cat dies, my world gets turned-upside down, most of my friends move away.... The Filth did inspire me to explore my dark side but I'm still trying to recover from the shock effects, as it were. The Filth did end on a high note though, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. The Filth, in short, basically takes everything noble and inspiring about the Invisibles and shits all over it. You could call it The Invisibles ugly little qliphoptic brother and you'd be right on the mark, IMO.

10:52 / 12.02.04

Okay, will avoid The Filth as i'm still recovering at the moment from feeling pretty ill. The last thing i need is what you described as happening to you, sorry to hear that.

I'm going to get the last three episodes of The Invisibles series three that i have reserved in the local comic shop and then i'm gonna take a little detour and get some Promethea.

At least that's what my mind tells me at the moment. I often get to the comic shop and find something new that i want to check out. Nah, Promethea it is, it looks and sounds good so thats the next on the list. Then i'll seek out series 1 and 2 of The Invisibles.

After that i'll maybe get VALIS by Philip K Dick and then check out Pattern Recognition by the man that is Gibson.

ONLY NICE THINGS

20:30 / 12.02.04

Have you considered the Steve Giffen Justice League?

21:01 / 12.02.04

No i've not heard of it that much but i'll have a look for it next time i'm in the comic shop thanks.

Oh, and sorry for not thanking you about that advice on where to maybe track down Grant Morrison further up this thread, i forgot as i started thinking about books i wanted.

I'm not really bothered about getting in touch with Grant M now, i was maybe just going over the top when i lost the plot over the weekend, and i can get quite a bit of advice from his site anyway. I've read one part of pop magic and it was helpful, now i'm trying my best to get my head around the book of pleasure by AOS, it's not easy but i think i'm getting there.

22:43 / 12.02.04

I'm not really bothered about getting in touch with Grant M now, i was maybe just going over the top when i lost the plot over the weekend

LOL!

Bless.

23:32 / 12.02.04

Okay, well two things, I guess.

SN, I'm not totally sure if The Filth did end on a high note. I still read it a lot, it's like having stitches, you ought to just leave them, but somehow, you can't.

So: what was it about ? Cause as I understand it, or interpret it anyway, the only two scenes in the whole 13 issues that actually existed outside of Greg's broken mind were the opening one, Tony, the bus, the wank mags and so on, and then ten issues later, or whenever it was, when he's lying OD-ing on his kitchen floor, " writing the suicide note that we like to call existence " These are the only aspects of this utterly fucked-up piece of work, which I nevertheless think James Joyce might have been proud of, that make any kind of ontological sense. So as he goes at the end down the stairs to the underground, having met the grunge-stoners with the monkey's paw dope, he's almost got to be dreaming, doesn't he ? Having killed himself really, but what d'you think ?

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00:37 / 13.02.04

I don't think he died from the attempt... The I-Life saved him. Someone on here said he'd become a sort of urban shaman, capable of walking between worlds, the worlds in this case being the "regular" world and the Filth world. If anything he seems like Tom O'Bedlam at the end... He made contact with the "Outer Church" of the Hand world as it were and came out of it intact.

Actually I'm still trying to figure it all out.

01:14 / 13.02.04

Yeah I see what you're saying, but it seemed like the I-Life was all in Greg's head. You know, pregnant mothers walking round with a bee hive in their prams, flowers all over the place, the ongoing theme of the chemist's, the vet's. And then there's Spartacus Hughes - Apparently Greg's kind of social avatar, but where does he fit in ?

01:22 / 13.02.04

Oi, you two! Get a thread!

Seriously, isn’t there like a proper thread where you can discuss the meaning of the Filth to your heart’s content? Not like it matters, or anything..

01:53 / 13.02.04

Yeah I haven't even read it yet so i can't read those posts, too many spoilers!

08:46 / 13.02.04

steve giffen?

09:00 / 13.02.04

If I recall correctly, the cats were in danger of getting glassed. I'd put out all the stops to defend against that kind of thing. That's some brutal shit right there.

Actually, I do think there can be too much Morrisonism round here, but this is not to advocate attacking his cats, dogs, hamsters, bats or any other pets with either blunt or edged instuments.

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