BARBELITH underground
 

Subcultural engagement for the 21st Century...
Barbelith is a new kind of community (find out more)...
You can login or register.


Underground > Temple >

INCOMING - THIS IS JACKFROST SLEEPYHEADS - LISTEN UP!!!

  
  

Page: (1)2

 
 
---
05:10 / 09.02.04
Fictionsuit : on.

Jack Frost.

9th Feb two thousand and whatever, eat my pineapple.

"The Invisibles" is an immune program: TRIGGERED BY THE BARBELITH BOUY when the GAME C R A S H E D and embedded all your sorry asses!!!!

Eon will not be held responsible for any of this, leave him out of it, if you disagree, call in the witchdoctors, get out your tarot cards, ask your allies, consult buddha shmuddha woulda coulda!!!!

Right........where to start.

Your reality has already crashed, your sleeping in the year of nothing and the outer church pisses on your floating parades!

We've been watching your progress and some of you are fucking lame! Wake up, dump the bullshit and get ready to haul your asses into spacetime! Eon's a sorry fucker too, but is trying to catch up as the morons watch in glee. Anyone! Everywhere! Love is your only law, the chrysalis is about to unfold!

Stop talking and act! There's no explanation, no reality, no smart-talk thats gonna get you a free pass!

Dump the cryptics and speak free!

You think i'm stupid?

You should be aware.

There's no tommorrow like sunshine.

Encryption is a resistance, the heiroglyphs are all over the skies...............there's colours all over out here, and all is love, we are you are everyone, everything, you don't have to remember, you just have to act.

No amount of FUCKING WAKE UP CALLS WILL EVER BE ENOUGH!!!

We created a diversion for your fucking bullshit!!!

All replies to this message have already been forgotten in the land of no ground and shining relics that float with life!

This message is wrong? How could this be wrong reader, it's here.

Communication

over.
 
 
---
05:15 / 09.02.04
Jack said fuck any spelling mistakes that may or may not be there and noticed that there's no summary and told me to offer this : Fuck you!

I doubt you'll agree with that, do what you want with the summary, i'm tired...........no i'm wired!!!!!
 
 
agvvv
05:32 / 09.02.04
"no smart-talk thats gonna get you a free pass!"

Now, are you absolutely positive on that one?
 
 
Alex's Grandma
06:59 / 09.02.04
being as high as a kite and then going on the internet... isn't, necessarily, a creative act. Sometimes it is, I'd imagine, well arguably, but it's not guaranteed. Hope you had a good one tho anyway
 
 
_Boboss
07:53 / 09.02.04
aaaaaar, no! i've just shit meself and it's not even ten in the morning! muuuuuuum!
 
 
---
11:34 / 09.02.04
Blame the fucking wanker Jack Frost not me.

I'm going through a major bad chaos initiation and wasn't high at all, i've taken no drugs so poo.

I don't care if you think i'm mad i already know i am, any protection and guidance spells any of you can do at this time for me would be very warmly welcomed.

Thankyou, i'll post back when i've recovered more sanity. Please ask the Archetype of Jack fucking Frost to leave my body alone, even if i do love his message.

All fictional characters are just as real or unreal as the pretend holograms that the people of this world project via the energy of the Tao and it's ofshoots.

High as a kite?

Monkey with kung fu.
 
 
Aertho
11:54 / 09.02.04
If the "message of Jack Frost" meant anything, it meant self-control through self-knowledge. What's REALLY going on with you?

I know you're impressed and excited with the Invisibles, but read it again, and then keep reading it.
 
 
---
15:41 / 09.02.04
What's REALLY going on with you?

How the fuck should i know? I just got put here.



Does everyone have to explain away a message of freedom with fucking rational chit-chat? Why can't anyone go chaos without the order police looking over their shoulders? Why doesn't anyone see anything positive in that post and say anything about it? Easier to be negative? Why do earthlings use long, complicated words that sound fucking stupid to explain de-fanged, watered down magical/mystical theories that have been put here for the sole-purpose of making us weaker than we already are?

Call in Saboath, and let me at him. Let's get this shit over and done with. I'm bored of this consensus fucking crap.

Sorry to Grant Morrison, Barbelith and the rest of the planet for not being 100% perfect 100% of the time. I'm sorry i'm such a dissapointment when i'm clearly supposed to be something better.

Ask your spirits/allies/guardians or whatever what the fucks going on with me. Oh wait a minute, don't. That might solve the problem.

I'm sad now. The fire's been dampened and it's cold in here, I thought it was gonna be warm.

Can somebody turn the light on? Grant had a message that went : "Flick the switch."

I feel worthless because i can't and i feel like i've let him down. I'm very, very, very unhappy about that. My life seems worthless now.

Fire. I'm gonna look for it.

Loads of it.
 
 
---
15:51 / 09.02.04
Why do i bother when everyone's been programmed not to help me?

Where's my cell?

WHERE'S MY FUCKING CELL!!!!!
 
 
akira
16:04 / 09.02.04
I'll go get the straight jacket.
 
 
---
16:17 / 09.02.04
Why? What fun would that be?

Ahh, do whatever.

Is it so wrong to step out of the box of 'reality'?

Offence to the consesus hive mind?

I can still communicate Akira, don't worry. Getting me a straightjacket is negative for me though, can anyone come up with something positive? Please? Should i leave?
 
 
akira
16:27 / 09.02.04
erm...I think we should all get naked, rub strawberry jam on our selves and run around the streets shouting WHO WANTS TO TOUCH ME?

That'd bring the world to its knees.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
16:43 / 09.02.04
Is it so wrong to step out of the box of 'reality'?

Well, no. Trouble is, there' a danger that by posting your stream of consciousness in its raw form in a public forum, you may come across as just a tiny bit self-indulgent.

Perhaps a weblog might be a more useful vehicle for your/J.F.'s message?
 
 
---
16:54 / 09.02.04
Thankyou Akira that made me smile.

Sorry Mordant if you see it like that but i really don't see it that way.

My stream of consciousness? I would still be writing it now! I didn't 'plan' this thread, i was laid in bed about to go to sleep and honestly, it was like something else made me get up, turn the PC back on and post it, i can't explain this one, i can't begin.

I feel wierd. Help me in my help thread pleeaase. I have to lay down shortly and try not to die. The bad thing is, i was in a hospital in my dream when i went to sleep earlier on and now i don't like the vibes at all.
 
 
Eskay Doss
17:24 / 09.02.04
Breathe... Remember to BREATHE!!!

If love is the law, then let it flow. Love! Not frustration. Love!

Still looking for your cell? You'll never find it. What are you looking for exactly anyaway? Create your own! Keep doing your own thing, stay awake and alive, try some exercise (you sound like you have loads of energy), and SMILE!

Breathe. Love. Smile!

You'll be alright. The game loves you!
 
 
osymandus
17:31 / 09.02.04
I once was a king in a far away land . Those that decry you do so from the top of their babal towers and seek to tell you what the Tao is.

I once was OZYMANDIUS KING OF KINGS , my works gazed apon in dispair.

No reason to leave your already there.
 
 
LVX23
18:14 / 09.02.04
(A)Eon: hang in there buddy! Remember that diving into the depths is only useful to The Cause if you bring something back to help us with. Walk Between The Worlds, mate.

Folks, this is Barbelith - you can post whatever you bloody well want, esp in the Magick. I find it very fascinating (and heartening) that some folks wear their transformations on their Barb sleeves for all of us to see. I remember Nietzche E. Coyote went through a similar transformation not long ago...Sadly, there was a lot of negative response generated by people being offended or judging his output (and I haven't heard much since). Let the stream flow and take heart in knowing that these folks feel that they can be open with us (in many cases they can't be so open with anyone else).
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
18:39 / 09.02.04
No, that's not how I see it-- I was simply trying to throw a little light on why the response to this thread might not seem as positive as the originator my have hoped.

I'm no stranger to heavy, all-consuming downloads myself, and I also know the feeling that the information I'm getting is demanding to be shared. If this feels like the best way to convey that information, then go for it. Keeping a written journal alongside this thread might be a good idea; when I recive information it's sometimes in a pictorial, visual form that is a little hard to convey in a text-based environment.
 
 
reFLUX
19:31 / 09.02.04
thecell is you. stepbeyond the box. mysoul is an egg. aseed. raisedto the flow. beyondthe beyond. unknownwords. unknownconcepts. readyourself.
 
 
---
19:41 / 09.02.04
Haha, this is fucking insana, totalia insana...........

Very gladly recieved advice, i love you all!

hmmmm i see a pattern here.......recurring requests to calm down, i'll take that advice. I think it was Gypsy Lantern who told me to do this the other day and i forgot it, now i'll do my best to remember it.

Can't help thinking that my bonfires been peed on but hey, that's life. And the question is : is this my bonfire or the bonfire of Jack Frost?

No-Girl i am very much better after reading your message, however i completely ingnored the part that said :

Still looking for your cell? You'll never find it.



Your advice on letting love flow is invaluable though, thankyou very much, i feel warm and fuzzy now, and erm.......slightly gay for just saying warm and fuzzy. (calls out geburah seraphim, and brigit of flames. (joke.))

LVX23 very happy to see what you wrote, it's maybe because i love the world of fantasy so much that i like this thread, and my confidence hasn't been damaged at all i'm happy to report, so yay!

Maybe i have such a great need to want to inspire people, i don't know. I'm dying to carry on with my story but i've a lot to learn about magic and i want a hypersigil, big, big, leviathon hyper sigil, and judging by my recent actions i'm gonna have a lot to learn before i do that, and should maybe tone my ideas right down. (for now anyway.)

Mordant Carnival, don't feel like a party pooper, your words are of wisdom. Good advice, cheers mate.

Finally :

I once was a king in a far away land . Those that decry you do so from the top of their babal towers and seek to tell you what the Tao is.

I once was OZYMANDIUS KING OF KINGS , my works gazed apon in dispair.

I want to see this in glorious detail! Your onto something here, please tell me! Short story, paragraph, anything, but please, don't let that myth die. (and will remember that the tao that can be spoken is not eternal tao.)

I'm not going to apologise for this anyway, i don't like sorrysorrysorry bastards, it gets tiring after a while, let this thread be eternal, and in the name of fictionsuits, love and airborne heiroglyphs!!!

now, back to meme's.........serene monk, must keep focused..........
 
 
osymandus
20:02 / 09.02.04
My kingdom once vast , turned now to sand , alas only my feet protrude. My name withered like my kingdom and only by the husband of the modern Promethius was i retold.

Into each grain of sand was the universe poured , only then did i gaze apon the true kingdom.

What say you now little Buddhi ?
 
 
---
20:35 / 09.02.04
Wow, maybe Osymandus leaves the old world and is reincarnated to walk freely in the new kingom? Very deep, very deep.
 
 
eddie thirteen
22:18 / 09.02.04
Eon:

Your bonfire is a fine one, and should not be peed upon! Reading the thread, I think most people are just a little concerned/irritated because revelatory, transcendental-type experiences are a little like those incredible theories that enter your mind in a state of profound wastedness...no one else gets them, the people you explain them to *really* don't get them (but probably have a much keener sense of your wastedness than yourself), and -- nine times out of ten -- the experience winds up seeming goofy even to you as a result once you've sobered up. Which is too bad, because there probably is something to it, and its import would be in a better position to reveal itself to you if you just kinda let it. Nobody else is gonna be able to explain it to you, though, and -- until you integrate the experience and can calmly expound upon what you have learned -- no one else can be inspired by it. (Although I was pretty entertained by it, and smiling pretty broadly, being...um...kinda familiar with the state.) Re-grounding to corporeal reality might help all that weird, formless stuff slide into your brain and nestle there in some comprehensible shape when you aren't looking. Like someone said, going for a walk would be good. The more sedentary recipient of a temporarily-deranging psychic download might just wanna look at porn. Chances are, it'll shift your focus away from the esoteric real quick. And while you're looking at pictures of pretty, naked people doing exciting things, your subconscious will be sifting down through all this stuff and finding the pieces that you can use. And you can safely return to the subject without, like, freaking yourself out (what some might call entering an ecstatic state, but probably not if they're in the same room as you at the time). Anyway -- good luck, man!
 
 
Alex's Grandma
22:39 / 09.02.04
Yeah, sorry man, I didn't mean to have a go. You're obviously feeling an awful lot better, which is the main thing. But I honestly think you really need to be careful - I'm in no sense an expert on chaos magick, I've read a few of the books but that's just about it, apart, from well, you know, from those couple of times. But Phil Hine, Grant Morrison, or anyone else who seems to have this frankly fairly macho attitude, whereby you chuck yourself in off the deep end and so on, and then you sink or you swim with Yoth Soggoth etc... Just seems like an angry ex-military dad, pushing his kid into the local baths. I mean it's fine, I suppose, if you know what you're doing, but if you don't, if you don't...
Well I stand to be corrected. But do have a break, possibly read say Pete Carroll, for example, A Crowley, late Burroughs, people like that. And as I say sorry for accusing yer good self of being terminally high
 
 
---
00:35 / 10.02.04
No need to apologise Alex don't worry about it. Swimming with Yoth Soggoth? I'll pass on that one for now, i agree that does sound like a crazy thing to be getting straight into.
 
 
_Boboss
09:11 / 10.02.04
there is an issue of quality here though.

eon having thrown your hat into the ring - if you want to cut loose and weird yourself out on-line, i suggest you enter 'isisian mysteries' into the blith search function and see how the real Ranters do it round here. can you match that?

meant in the nicest possible way guys.
 
 
---
11:07 / 10.02.04
eon having thrown your hat into the ring - if you want to cut loose and weird yourself out on-line, i suggest you enter 'isisian mysteries' into the blith search function and see how the real Ranters do it round here. can you match that?

But i don't want to make a habit of this and match anything, it was a spontaneous one off.

No offence to you either though, thanks i'll check it out, it sounds like it's right brain Netzach type of stuff and i'm always into that, so cheers Wolverine-San, and sorry for scaring you yesterday.
 
 
---
23:41 / 10.02.04
I got this from the net :

BY: To me that's seems obvious that someone with your personality would have a look - to see what was going on. It'd be difficult not to; people are continually discussing your work and are like-minded. I remember, I said something on Barbelith, I'm a reasonably regular contributor to the comics threads.
GM: Mm-hmm
BY: And I said something fairly kinda vicious about your work and it was really just to stir things up a bit. And I got a reply from somebody - and it said Grant Morrison -
GM: That was me. (laughs) Who d'you think it was? (laughs)
BY: I wasn't sure -
Kristan: - sometimes you just get pissed off.
BY: Hey - absolutely, totally-
GM: It wasn't so much what you were - I don't mind criticism - it's when people make up crap about my life, it's the most infuriating thing.
BY: Of course.
GM: People project the strangest things and then give you a hard time for not living up to it.
BY: But do you not have to expect this?
GM: You have to expect it but its never...comfortable, I'm sure anyone who's ever been in the minor elements of the public eye and I'm in the minor, minor elements of the public eye but its weird as fuck.Y'know - I play around with things but sometimes y'know some of them seem to consume you.
BY: I think I'd have probably done the same y'know - I was quite surprised and I was also quite chuffed in a way - I remember what you said; it was, 'Shite.....you talk it' and it was just when The Filth was coming out. At work I'd been given this job - y'know I'm not really getting on with my bosses at work - they gave the worst job in the office which is refurbishing the toilets in Glasgow Central Station!
GM: Your Initiation. (laughs)
BY: Yeah...and it arrived at the same time as my favourite writer telling me I talk shite! I thought, this is it - I'm actually getting into The Filth!
GM: It all ties in. (laughs)
BY: - the spells working!
GM: Everything works. I liked the idea when Barbelith started, I was going to get involved but I just don't have the fuckin' time, I'd be fightin' with everybody. There'd be some people I'd talk to a lot, people I think I could exchange ideas with but the rest of the time you'd be defending yourself against charges of fascism or homophobia or whatever the latest fuckin' bugbear is that day and it'd be just too exhausting so I thought it'd be better to just let people form their own thing. I believe there shouldn't be gurus; Warren was almost eaten by his forum, thank God he came back to being a writer again. He was spending too much time getting involved in it. Writing's what he should be doing - that's his job.



I thought that he'd be in this forum from time to time, has he ever posted in here?

I'm only obsessing because i want to write a story like a hypersigil and i thought he'd be here, it would of been cool to get some advice. Or at least an abusive e-mail with some advice included in it.

Grant, if you read this, i know i'm a mental fucker but can you post me some advice either here or via e-mail on how the fuck to start with writing a story that i want to be a hypersigil and at the same time how you got started doing this yourself?

Ahh whatever. Fook shmook.

All offensive e-mails will be diverted by your own archetype of JackFrost! We've created a diversion for any of your abusive e-mail fucking bullshit!!! (joke big bro if your reading.)

Ahh the dreamer can dream i suppose. I wonder if he knows of Jake Horsley? I wonder if it's possible to be this insana totalia and still have a chance of writing a succesfull story?

I fear for my sanity, will this shitty intiation ever end?!?

If i go to my e-mail account and see an e-mail from Grant Morrison i don't know what the fuck i'd do. He'll give me some right shit, i can just feel it. Lay off on the abuse! YOU MIGHT LIKE MY STORY!!!

CHAOS!!! SOCHA!!!! I NEED INSPIRATION!!!

(calms down and tells mad proffessor to shut the fuck up already.)

Really i'm not that mad, i think i'd make a brilliant actor. OK i'm mad and like reading my own bullshit that must be it. Oh fuckers i'm doomed.

Universe move your ass with helping me already.


OH BUDDHA!!! UP YOURS!!!
 
 
---
04:35 / 11.02.04
It seems the craziest phase of my latest initiation is over.......

Thankyou universe, thankyou for putting up with me and giving me guidance despite the shit i've given you in the last 72 hours. I hope there was no serious damage done that can't be healed.

I now have Hindu words and dieties to call on, the pentagram banishing ritual and mantras.

Wow, i just read the thread again and it brought back some wierd moments. At last, it seems calm in my head.
 
 
osymandus
11:07 / 11.02.04
Now you have a god with an Elephant head too !

BANG
 
 
---
14:31 / 11.02.04
Yeah.

Peace Ganesha.
 
 
--
14:49 / 11.02.04
Um, no offense, but I think you're identifying with "The Invisibles" a little too intensly. Granted, when I first read it odd things began to happen to me, but in a more subtle way. Maybe it's different for everyone else. It was a liberating read, but don't take it overboard. I mean, in the end, it's really just a story, despite all this hypersigil talk. I don't think it has all the answers, in fact I don't think any book or person has all the answers. The most important thing I took from it was that in inspired me creatively and introduced me to a whole field of writers/thinkers I had never heard of before: Robert Anton Wilson, Wilhelm Reich, Susan Blackmore, etc.

I'm not an expert but I don't think Grant Morrison posts here that often... I wouldn't really look to him for advice. Hell, he even says he doesn't want to be a guru. I'll admit I had an extraordinarily high opinion of the man at first, but I saw him on the Disinfo.con DVD a few days ago and you know, he's only human, not that different than me: Sure he's bald, older, and probably has had more life experiences then I have (plus a whole lot more money then I got) but essentially he struck me as kind of geeky... well, in a sexier way, I suppose. What the hell was I talking about?

Then again, in my newbie magic days I did send an e-mial to his website asking about if I should do a banishing before sigils... It's up there in the archives, actually... If I had known that GM himself answered those I would have asked a better question!
 
 
LVX23
15:06 / 11.02.04
Hey, Ganesh is my new patron... Synchroliscious!
 
 
--
15:12 / 11.02.04
As a writer I suppose Ganesh has always been my patron... Still have a little shrine of him on top of my bookshelf... Well, he's being represented a pink Monster-in-my-pocket version of him, but it's a pretty accurate representation!
 
 
---
16:29 / 11.02.04
I know, i understand Sypha. I also believe that you can't get all of the answers from one peice of fictional work. I think i just got obsessed with the character of Jack Frost too much at a time when i've been going through a lot of instability and change in my life. I've been fixated with the Buddha for a while now and knowing that JF was a northern person like myself (I'm from Humberside.) and was at the same time supposed to be a Buddha character amplified it a lot.

Wierdly enough i seem to have calmed down a lot more after changing my username to Jack Frost. There's a lot of unconscious stuff that i need to work on at the moment and i've been avoiding it by spending time in various forums and hoping it would work itself out aswell.

Cool to know that Ganesha's your new patron LVX23, that sounds good.

Today i got up and didn't turn the PC on straightaway for the first time in a while and i meditated, thought about a few things, did a little exercise and refrained from having a cig. I felt better after that. Also, i cast a sigil last night asking for a guide and healing, the healing seems to have worked a little.

When i've been doing sigils i haven't wrote them down except for the one i just described. I've just pictured them, charged and fired them and i've had some success so that's been good for me.

To explain a little about the first post in this thread now i've got some knowledge of the situation and can actually put it into words : i imagined invoking or letting Jack Frost into my body as an archetype or real being that had come back here from the post-2012 timeline after the end of the invisibles. Jack wasn't the same age as the man from the last episode but as a free being was able to be any age he wanted and was about 20-24 years old. With me being 24 myself i found it easier to associate with him, and that's why a lot of it was in a comical element, because he was younger and also because he was free of fear and negativity.

He was in a free universe that had been healed and was sending back a message to help us feel better. The Earth was still there but a lot of it was a more airy realm that had all of humanities information stored in data-structures all over the place that could be accessed and seen by anyone. These data-structures made up a type of living library that was part of the purpose of the planet and humanities evolution from the beginning, hence - the floating relics and heiroglyphs.

I found out after some thought that this was also partly inspired by a book that talked about a living library. I think it was called 'Cosmic egg.' I've only read a little of the beginning of it in a bookshop about a year ago, maybe even further back, 1-2 years.

Now that the entire elements of the collective unconscious had been stored in these ground based and airborne data-structures the post-human race of beings had been granted the freedom to explore the universe and attain eventual multi-universal intiation ready for future races like ourselves that where developing in any future timelines.

Hope that clears some stuff up for you people. I feel like a massive weight has just been lifted off my shoulders.
 
  

Page: (1)2

 
  
Add Your Reply