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Career advice - no really, I mean it.

 
 
Cailín
19:22 / 06.02.04
I'm not very good at taking risks. The situation is this: I am three months away from having a degree in architecture. The firm I interned for last summer has offered me a full-time position upon graduation. It was not a particularly good job last summer, and the money will probably not be teriffic (although, for the first couple of years after graduation, my financial expectations are rather low). The trouble is, they want an answer very soon (in the next two weeks or so). So, do I take the job that is in my field, but that I'm not very excited about, or do I turn it down and go out looking for something a little more interesting? The job placement rate in my program is actually pretty good, but sometimes it takes six months or so, and I have student loans to pay off. Pros, cons and anecdotes are all appreciated. I'm leaning toward taking the job, and then starting to look for something better a few months in, but I worry I'll get comfortable and just stay put. What do you think?
 
 
diz
19:25 / 06.02.04
i would say take it. keeping a positive cash flow after graduation can be really huge, and i would generally argue that getting job experience early and often is crucial to developing your career.
 
 
aus
19:41 / 06.02.04
Of course you take the offer. If something better becomes available, you leave for the better job.
 
 
Baz Auckland
21:09 / 06.02.04
...and accepting the job won't stop you from job hunting...
 
 
Cailín
21:20 / 06.02.04
All valid. Trouble is, I have a really good relationship with one of my bosses, and I just feel like, if I don't really want to go back to work for him, I should be upfront about it. But then again, money's necessary, and whether I like the guy or not, I guess I don't owe him eternal servitude, right?
 
 
The resistable rise of Reidcourchie
21:47 / 06.02.04
No you don't, the main thing is that you keep job hunting when you do start working for them, that can be a difficult when you're working full time.
 
 
40%
23:01 / 06.02.04
This thread infringes several patents previously filed by myself, and I will be taking legal action...
 
 
Cailín
13:01 / 07.02.04
Relax, you got credit in the endnotes.
 
 
40%
13:45 / 07.02.04
To hell with credit. Do I get paid?
 
 
gingerbop
13:53 / 07.02.04
However much he pays you, I (almost) promise I'll increase it by 40% for you.

So you reakon you'll take it then? I'd say more experience, and keeping eating off the back of that lovely student debt is the main thing. As you said, job placement rates are good, so Im sure it wont take that long to find yourself something better. But in the meantime, you're probably best off not starving.
 
 
40%
14:15 / 07.02.04
(40% looks puzzled)

Well, suits me. Not sure what you're paying me for though. I'll have my attorney draw up a contract for "services as yet to be agreed".

Cailin - Sorry about the threadrot. I would contribute something useful if I had anything. Good luck anyway.
 
 
Cailín
17:15 / 07.02.04
I don't know yet. My parents have offered to consult a headhunter they know to find out what kind of salary I'm actually worth. I'll take it from there.
 
 
w1rebaby
22:05 / 07.02.04
I think it depends on how confident you are in those job placement rates. The university will always exaggerate them. Also, do remember that those are not "good job that I like" placement rates - you might well not find anything you like any more.

I'd take it, providing it's a job that you can do and stay sane in for at least a year or two. If you leave after six months other companies that you may like better will look at you a bit funny in the future. The experience will also make things easier.

(I assume that you are actually sure you want to work in architecture - well, as sure as anyone can be, anyway - and so things like that matter. If you're not sure, take it anyway, but don't worry about when you might quit, people won't care so much if it's in a different field.)
 
 
Whisky Priestess
23:12 / 07.02.04
I used to work for a mid-sized architectural practice in London. There were about 2 jobs available every year (if that) and 10 CVs came through the post every week. I'm just saying that there are a *lot* of unemployed, recently graduated, bright young architects out there ... plus if you take the job, you can negotiate with any other putative employers from a position of strength.
 
  
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