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Learning to Forget

  
 
Rev. Jesse
16:01 / 14.02.02
Hey there,

So I can't get here out of mind. I thought I was over her, but I talked with her yesterday and now that she's seeing someone else, my heart fell through the floor. I can't stop thinking about her.

So how do I quell this internal dialouge? And, to bring this into the magick realm, how do you forget the subjects of your enchantments and sigils? I have been having a very very hard time forgetting what my sigils are for, anyone have any suggestions?

Valentine's Day sucks.

-Jesse
 
 
Rev. Wright
16:07 / 14.02.02
quote: One technique is to in meditation visualise her seated opposite you. Then see and feel a golden chord between the pair of, connecting at the heart chakra/breast bone. Try to get a good impression of this situation. Then imagine a large pair of scissors or knife or whatever you find easiest, in the visualisation cut the chord at a mid point and draw the ends back to one another. See them withdraw back in both you and her, sending good thoughts all the time. The chord should come back in and make a gold disk on your chest (a good visualisation object). Make sure that her chord has retreated to, again reasure her with comforting thoughts, this will help.

quoted by myself on another thread involving Impulsivehead
 
 
Ierne
16:14 / 14.02.02
Hey Jesse:

A good way to forget something (or someone) is to involve yourself in activites that have little or nothing to do with whatever you're trying to forget. Once you've fired up a sigil go somewhere, do something different. Take a shower, or a long walk through a part of town you usually don't visit. Call up a friend and see how they're doing. Go see a movie.

Forgetting ex-lovers is more difficult – distance and time are the best healers for that. Try not to get involved with someone else right away.

Good luck, mate. I'll send some good vibes your way.
 
 
MJ-12
16:53 / 14.02.02
I myself am vaccilating between working realy hard and drinking 'till I'm blind. Or to bring this into the magick realm, communing with the spirit of the agave.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
17:00 / 14.02.02
Well MJ-12, I'll take that advice with a grain of salt, if you don't mind.

And some lime.
 
 
bastl b
17:40 / 14.02.02
i always thought it´s like this:
life is just fucking cruel sometimes. go into the sea of sadness and drown in it. don´t fight it just go under. you will survive and the pain will stop.

or at least that´s my hope. i have cried a lot of tears since 9/11 and i can´t get that shock out of my head either. every now and then i burst into tears and i´m wondering if that´s still a sane response.

there´s also some musicians whenever i hear them i choke up. i don´t even listen to it for that effect but it always comes as a surprise even though it happens without fail. i don´t mind it actually but it´s weird that it´s always the same things that make me sad. over and over.

guess that didn´t help.

madonna sang: "nothing takes the past away like the future"
 
 
Ierne
17:50 / 14.02.02
i have cried a lot of tears since 9/11 and i can´t get that shock out of my head either. every now and then i burst into tears and i´m wondering if that´s still a sane response. – bastl b

Yes, it is a sane response. I still cry too.

re: alcohol and forgetfulness – The trick is to enjoy the process of getting pissed and concentrate on that. One cannot drown one's sorrows by dwelling on them.
 
 
Tuna Ghost: Pratt knot hero
18:28 / 14.02.02
Do you frequently meditate? That always helps me clear my head, or at least get everything else out of there so I can deal with my sorrow all at once. I'm really good at purposely not thinking of things (in my mind, I just drop a white blanket of whatever image and hey hey, I don't think of it anymore.), but this isn't as useful as it sounds. I'm pretty sure it's screwed me up. Everynow and again I'll run across a pocket of stuff I was trying to forget while meditating, which is really disturbing.
 
 
Indigo
15:32 / 15.02.02
Erm - two ways I can suggest for this.

First, time and distance, like Ierne says. Problem with this is it does tend to pop up again just when youleast expect it, and it's really hard to say whether or not you really are over something.

Second (more difficult) is to face the feeling. Wallow in it, examine it from all angles. It hurts like hell, so it's a good idea to have the time/distance thing first (works for me). Interrogate the feeling, accept that it is there, meditate on it (don't get obsessed though - if you become aware that this is happening, go back to methid 1 for a while, until you're a bit clearer in the head). Eventually, you should find that the bad feeling isn't hurting anymore - then you're over it.

Mind, Wright's idea might work as a good visualisation alongside this...
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
19:46 / 15.02.02
In the past nothing has ever worked well for me except for time.

The only thing that's come even close was doing new things in my life. Taking that art course you've been wanting to for years, a musical instrument, martial arts. Whatever you've always wanted to do and just haven't done yet.

Trying to fill that gap with something new for myself was the only thing that would help. It helped me look towards the future instead of dwelling on the past.

It still sucked though. I feel for ya man.

[ 15-02-2002: Message edited by: Lothar Tuppan ]
 
 
Gho5tD4nc3r
07:30 / 16.02.02
Got one for you:

Find a mirror, and face it. Look into your own eyes, and slowly recite "I am I". Try not to get too confused. When you feel your awareness drifting between the two images, when you feel as though there are two of you, ask yourself if you want to feel this way. If you tell yourself you don't then absolve yourself, release yourself from bonds that cause you pain, then allow yourself to return to your own image.

Be aware that you may choose not to release yourself. Doing so is just that, you transform yourself and admit to yourself it is over. Understand that, it is important. If you do not wish it to be over, then you won't accept release, you won't want it.

If you choose not to, then time and distance, tried and true method.
 
 
Vadrice
19:23 / 18.02.02
Gho5tD4nc3r, that's one of the more affluent and poetic rituals I've heard in a long time. Thank you.
 
 
Less searchable M0rd4nt
09:02 / 19.02.02
Those experiences- the lost love, being witness to catastrophe- are part of being alive. You can't hide from them or forget them, because you run the risk of hiding from a whole tract of yourself.

quote:Originally posted by bastl b:
go into the sea of sadness and drown in it. don´t fight it just go under. you will survive and the pain will stop.

Ten-four.

Subsume the feelings and let them subsume you. Take time to know them. Describe them to yourself like a story. Incorporate them into your being. It hurts, but in this way you can make any experience rich for yourself; you will come away from it with a new lustre to your perception.

The world will turn and the moment will pass. Your life is a poem to all that's gone before.
 
  
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