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Douglas Coupland

 
 
I rose like the phoenix
09:00 / 03.02.04
I've read Microserfs, Miss Wyoming and Girlfriend In A Coma and I have to say that to me, this writer is flawless!
 
 
Squirmelia
09:37 / 03.02.04
From the Coupland website:

January 2005
Eleanor Rigby - USA Publication

December 2004
Eleanor Rigby - Canadian Publication

November 2004
Eleanor Rigby - UK Publication

4 - 24 October 2004
"September 10" - A Play Written and Performed by Douglas Coupland
Royal Shakespeare Company
Stratford-on-Avon, England

September - October 2004
Canada House at Canada House- Selected art and design pieces from Canada House. Canada House, Trafalgar Square, London

28 June - 29 August 2004
Canada House, Design Exchange, Toronto - Art and design objects contemplating the notion of Canada

28 June 2004
Souvenir of Canada 2 - Canadian publication

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I'll definitely be going to the UK events.

There's also the Coupland Award, where you have to write a 1000 word story inspired by one of the pictures that Doug has chosen, but the deadline is today.
 
 
Kit-Cat Club
09:57 / 03.02.04
There is an old thread on Coupland here.

jen - why do you say flawless? That's quite something to say about any writer. Why do you think he's so good?
 
 
I rose like the phoenix
12:19 / 03.02.04
Well, personally, I am an an avid reader of books of all kinds - chick lit, sci-fi, classics, 'bubblegum' books... and he's one of the only writers who I don't seem to have any criticism of. I've loved everything he's done so far. His books inspire an interest in myself that I've not had for a long time and he makes me want to write more myself. His use of language is sharp and concise. The way he moulds his characters I can see them as real people although some of his characters are somewhat crazy!
 
 
Squirmelia
13:06 / 03.02.04
Doug is my favourite author, and I think all his books are great, but some are slightly more flawed than others. I mostly prefer the older fiction to the newer, but did enjoy Hey Nostradamus! (his latest) more than the previous two he'd written.

Jen, I'd recommend reading Generation X and Life After God next, since they are often people's favourites.
 
 
adamswish
15:39 / 03.02.04
Only read "Generation X", but loved it. Especially as it's one of only a few books that I will read in one sitting. Cover to cover both times I've read it. Think I shouldn't of done that the second time as was feeling meloncholly (sic) and it didn't exactly help lift me out of that mood. Still good stuff all the same.
 
 
Baz Auckland
16:16 / 03.02.04
I second Generation X, (one of my all-time favourites...) but avoid 'Polaroids From the Dead' at all costs...
 
 
ignatian
12:14 / 15.02.04
I might have been tempted to agree with "Flawless" until he wrote "Girlfriend in a Coma": although I still look forward to his books, I do not really see the same depth of characterisation and compassion that made his earlier works such a treat. "Families..." degenerated into an absurdist romp of stereotypes, while "MIss W" seemed preoccupied with lifestyles and semi-celebrity far removed from my experience or interest.
It might be just me, but his books seem far less.. experimental than they used to... is it just that his languid style has been adapted by journalist and pot-boiling fiction authors? or has he lost that zeitgeisty vibe that made him seem so vibrant?
Perhaps his religious beliefs have weakeed his ability to write about the brave struggle to inscribe meaning into a meaningless universe.
mind you, the artist i most assocaiate with DC has just made "Rock School". I might not like it when my friends become famous.
 
 
HCE
19:25 / 15.02.04
It must just be me. I haven't read a single thing of his that I didn't find cheap, empty, and facile, but then I haven't read all that much of his stuff -- just odd things that his apostles have pressed on me. Perhaps I just didn't understand what I read, or perhaps it is my personal view of life and the world (as almost too ripe with meaning) which makes his work unpalatable and flat. It's interesting to note that two of you consider characterization a particular strength of his as I cannot for the life of me recall his work having any characters at all, just a sort of laundry list of proper names. He sounds ot me like somebody who went to school to learn to write (I don't know whether he did or not and I don't think school harms all writers).
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
11:35 / 16.02.04
It's not just you, fred.

I have yet to read anything by Coupland - fiction, non-fiction or interview - which did not strongly suggest that he is a person of very limited intelligence and observational skills, who has done very nicely out of the media's need for people who are willing to state the obvious and make it sound like a revelation.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:56 / 16.02.04
And third one's the charm...

A friend of mine inveighed upon me to read Life After God. She had been blown away by how (and I'm paraphrasing here) it lacked all traditional elements of story-structure and yet still had a huge emotional wallop.

I read, and was utterly non-plussed. It seemed very traditional to me: it was essentially Nature-Transcendentalist writing, story after story asserting that city living is unhealthy and sad-making, and that it's probably a good thing to go out to the countryside and get in touch with your real self, mmmmmmmkay?

What makes Life After God different from, say, Thoreau's Walden, is that Thoreau's time in the woods was not marked by his withdrawal from anti-anxiety meds. And that's really about all the difference.
 
 
Squirmelia
08:52 / 01.04.04
I just like the way he writes, but I can see how it would not appeal to everyone.

Synopsis of Doug's new book, Eleanor Rigby:

"Meet Liz Dunn -- a good woman who has become very good at being lonely. Then, after 25 years apart, her amazing 25-year-old son returns into her life. And, at 40, suddenly, she is no longer alone, and must decide what matters more: peace, certainty or love?

Once upon a time Liz Dunn was the loneliest girl in the world. One starry night, far from home, she told a stranger she was tired of being lonely. So, he tried to put an end to all that. Twenty-five years later, into her life walks, for the very first time, her son Jeremy. And everything changes. Liz has in the interim learned to live with loneliness, and become rather expert at it, as well as being sparky, competent and sarcastic when necessary. Now, with Jeremy in her life, she has
to abandon her certainties as her world expands...

This is a novel irradiated by hope and illuminated by trust, that also fizzes with whirls in Vienna, romance in Rome, mayhem in Frankfurt and visions in Vancouver. It is blessed with the commanding presence of an unforgettable heroine in Liz Dunn, with whom Douglas Coupland ascends to a new level of peace and grace in his ever-more-amazing career as an artist of rare capabilities."
(Taken from http://www.coupland.dk)
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:34 / 01.04.04
Personally, I thought he kind of lost it round about "Girlfriend in a Coma".

BUT (and it's a big but) "Hey! Nostradamus" I thought was an excellent book. (Yes, I admit, I only read it because I have an unhealthy fascination with spree killers, but still... it was brilliant).

My main problem with Coupland is that he is so self-consciously "the voice of the zeitgeist"... and quickly becomes dated. Read 'em while they're hot, they're probably ace.

But "Nostradamus" actually had proper characters and stuff. the "hip" nihilism just wasn't there. I actually cared about these people. It was a Coupland book whose message wasn't "Isn't Doug cool?"
 
 
Topper
16:50 / 02.04.04
I'll second Hey! Nostradamus as a very good book. It does what The Lovely Bones tried to do, and it does it much better.
 
 
Squirmelia
13:31 / 09.06.04
Anyone going to see the "September 10" play in Stratford-upon-Avon? Tickets are on sale now.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
02:53 / 10.06.04
Even though Generation X and Shampoo Planet have dated a bit, and even though Girlfriend In A Coma is to say the least pretentious, fey, slightly silly, and ultimately trite, and even though Ms Wyoming is a pile of wank, I still quite like All Families Are Psychotic. And I'm not sure if any of D Coupland's work is actually meant to be the sort of state of nation address it's been routinely promoted as - He seems much more in the tradition of Vonnegutt ( sic ? probably, can't be arsed to check at this time in the morning, ) than say Delillo, Jay McInnerney, Brett Easton Ellis, and so on.

And Flyboy, incidentally, I would be innarested to know who or what you don't hate, in terms of writers, their material - Like a junkie, these days, I'm always running out of good stuff.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
12:37 / 11.06.04
I stole Generation X from the bookstore on my 17th birthday; if I remember correctly, I was born in the last year of Generation X. It's funny that Generation X does not seem to mean what it meant. And "Gen Y"! WTF?

I like Coupland in general but I find him problematic. I have a real, "okay, but so what?" response. I enjoy the experience of reading him, but I wouldn't want to try and nourish myself on what is clearly a very thin and soapy broth.
 
 
Squirmelia
14:14 / 11.06.04
I find his earlier books quite inspiring really. The basic plot of the earlier books at least is all very similar - there's these people who sit around and chat and make a few discontented observations on their world, and then they attempt to change their lives with some token gesture that they know may not change it really, but at least they're trying.
 
 
Mycroft Holmes
15:03 / 20.06.04
I think my experience was similar to a lot of the posters here. I read generation x when I was 18, like 7 years ago, and was -blown-away-. But I lost the burning desire to read it éverything after wasting time on girlfriend in a coma. Now I think of him more as a poor mans brett easton ellis.
I also remember thinking that miss wyoming was like...a rewrite of GIAComma, if that means anything...
 
 
Lilith
21:52 / 20.06.04
Read Miss Wyoming a while ago, advertised as "Coupland’s best work to date". Some descriptions were cute and unusual ("his eyes were the pale blue colour of sun-bleached parking tickets" – p.5), others were just plain ridiculous ("the doctor and nurse inspected his body like it was a skimpy Christmas tree" – p. 98). Overall the book had a strong pre-teen novel feel to me, mostly due to its lifeless "characters" and unrealistic events (the plane crash? come on). First and last Coupland novel for me.

I wouldn't insult Ellis by proximity of association.
 
 
HCE
23:25 / 22.06.04
"a poor mans brett easton ellis. "

Ouch.
 
 
Mycroft Holmes
12:43 / 23.06.04
Sometimes I forget why I only lurk...But I'm always reminded. Ouch indeed.
 
 
Squirmelia
10:26 / 24.06.04
>Read Miss Wyoming a while ago, advertised as "Coupland’s best work to date".

Strange. Have the advertisers even read the book? Most fans would probably think of it as one of his weakest books.
 
 
8===>Q: alyn
17:13 / 29.06.04
I thought Girlfriend in a Coma was fucking awesome, and that Brett Easton Ellis is a total jagoff. You hear me, Eddie?!?
 
 
Mycroft Holmes
19:41 / 29.06.04
Well, a couple of things...
First of all, having read everything by both authors- It seems to me that both BEE and DC are writing about the superficial in modern life, or at least its a subject that they both touch upon- also, ( and this was more true of both authors in there earlier works) the dissatifaction of youth...also the fact that both of them are of similar ages, and I think they were both formed in similar affluence.
So, when someone says, I find BEE to be a better but similar author than DC, via the statement ''poor mans BEE''...and someone says ''thats an insult to BEE'' I'm sort of stunned, because I said that the one guy was better than the other.
But when someone else says, ''ouch'', and nothing else, I'm kinda pissed, because it seems like someone was just taking an opputunity to cut some one else down for no apparent reason. Pretentious snobbery.
But whatever, I guess that everyones allowed to say that someone elses opinion is an insult, and retarded to boot.
 
 
HCE
21:08 / 29.06.04
Huh? I'm a pretentious snob for thinking both DC and BEE are awful? Please provide a list of authors it's unpretentious and, I guess, populist to dislike and I'll get right to work disliking them.

I gave my reasons for disliking DC upthread, and would give similar ones for disliking BEE, for what that's worth.
 
 
Jack Vincennes
10:36 / 30.06.04
Sorry to just wade in here, but... Eddie, I don't think that fred was saying 'Ouch' to your opinion, but to the concept of a poor man's BEE. From your post it's not entirely clear what you think about either of those authors because 'poor mans...' is entirely comparative. As far as fred knew, you could have meant that BEE is okay and that DC, being worse, is a great big pile shite, whereas in fact you meant that DC was okay, and that BEE, being better, was good. I certainly don't think it was the intention of anyone in this thread to insult anyone else (other than Douglas Coupland)
 
 
Mycroft Holmes
13:34 / 30.06.04
I hate to continue something like this with people who are obviously better and more experienced at this sort of thing than I am but, I'm going to anyway.
Since we already knew that Fred thought that DC's writing was-
cheap, empty, and facile
and since his post immediatly followed Lilith's, who wrote-
I wouldn't insult Ellis by proximity of association
(which seems to imply to me, that Litith knew I was saying that BEE was better, but to even compare them, by saying the one was better than the other, was an insult to BEE, but I might be being thickheaded)
and since the entirety of his post was-
"a poor mans brett easton ellis. "
Ouch.
I concluded that he agreed with Lilith. I might have jumped to the wrong conclusion, but since Freds post was quoting me, and than one word ''ouch''...what else was I to assume? When I have ever said the word ouch, in reference to what someone else has said (and not because I fell down or something) it's because I thought what they had said was embarrassing and-or stupid. Maybe this is some sort of cultural misunderstanding and for him it means someone else.
So I took it not only as an agreement, but as a snide comment, such as someone wuld utter under there breath to a friend when they hear someone else say something they think is stupid.
So, Fred...as for providing-
a list of authors it's unpretentious and, I guess, populist to dislike
Its not necessary, I was obviuosly being unclear (as I am likely to do)- I don't think your taste in authors is pretentious, just response to my initial post.
As for the term ''poor mans'' not being indicative to what I actually think, well, it's definitly slang, and maybe thats the problem, because if I spoke it in conversation with a friend, I think they would know what I mean. The same as if I said ouch in response to something they said.
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Just to make it known, I read here extensively, because I think all of you guys are clever, articulate, with sometimes facinating opinions. Occasionally I get an urge to be a part of it, but then I end up feeling stupid. Wether I'm imagining it or not...
 
 
HCE
16:14 / 30.06.04
I don't think you're stupid, I'm a her not a him, and I don't post here that often myself so definitely don't take anything I say as being representative of barbelith as a whole.

Go in peace and read whatever suits you, it's no skin off my nose.
 
 
Squirmelia
11:25 / 21.10.04
I went to see Douglas Coupland's play and even had after show drinks with him, which was quite amazing. Anyway, here is a description I wrote of the play in my LiveJournal:

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Douglas Coupland's play - September 10 - The Other Place, Stratford-Upon-Avon
14.10.04

Scattered around the stage area were mineral water bottles, standing upright and arranged in clusters of four. As they stood in the darkness, their presence seemed somehow eerie, as if the water inside was glowing.

The play began with Douglas Coupland lying on top of a tartan coffin, babbling an almost incoherent mantra of OMD lyrics: "The youth and the Imperialist Tribune was also addressed by a young girl from Nicaragua whose hands had been cut off at the wrists by the former Samosa guards.."

Doug continued the play by adding further depth to some of the themes that appeared in his books, exploring other related topics, and revealing new ideas and stories about his life, which were all somehow beautiful. If you've been to a reading by Douglas Coupland or seen the video of Close Personal Friend, you can compare those to this play, since they definitely had some similarities. The main difference was that since it was a small theatre, Doug was right in front of you and not always stationary - at one point he skipped around the stage, chanting another of his "mantras" - Patty Hearst's ransom note on audio tape to her family- "..I am not being starved or beaten or unnecessarily frightened.."

Kayla, dressed in revealing fishnet, with her face painted white, acted as his assistant. She looked at him creepily adoringly as she brought him a cocktail - a Zombie, which Doug renamed Amnesia (since what are zombies if not just people with amnesia?)

Also on the stage was a white coffin with a barcode and a plastic garden chair (that was offered to the winner of the Gap check). Doug told the audience about how as a child he waited to be the first to use a new photocopier, and that he photocopied a picture of Andy Warhol and Catherine Deneuve at the Window of the World cafe. During the play, he shared this image by spreading photocopies on coloured paper across the stage.

Doug pointed out occasions in his books where he had mentioned the World Trade Center: In Generation X - "The World Trade Center is the Morrissey twins, each standing six feet six inches". In All Families are Psychotic - "..above the world trade center, with a flock of pigeons, flying amid the skyscrapers..", and he also mentioned from Life After God, "would cats build scratching-post skyscrapers covered entirely with shag carpeting?", and I remember when I first read those passages, I didn't pay much specific attention to them, because at that time, I didn't really know much about what they were referring to.

Doug read his poetic and moving letter to Kurt (which also appeared in the book Polaroids from the Dead) and hearing him read it, I found it even more touching than when I had re-read it in April. It made me feel so nostalgic for the 90s, as did Doug's description of what Microsoft was like when he was doing research for Microserfs.

In a similar way to in Close Personal Friend, Doug pulled a cartoon-like black hole from his pocket and laid it carefully on the ground, making sure it was fully unfolded, and then peered deeply into it. Maybe we all need a black hole to keep in our pockets, just in case.

Doug's sad, yet powerful words, "I wanted to mulch myself to death," were the consequence of a bad reaction he had to anti-depressants. He also mentioned pills that could do all kinds of things - the shopping pill, the jail pill, and the September the 10th pill. A pill pot was opened and he scattered "September 10" pills and sitting in the front row, I could smell a sweet minty smell, like tic-tacs (note that they were not cinnamon), and Doug mentioned how they looked like stars.

I wish I could remember more, but this review that was linked to from The Bogus Tribute to Douglas Coupland) covers it quite well: Brian Draper- Connecting with Culture
 
 
The Prince of All Lies
00:17 / 22.10.04
I borrowed Gen X from a friend and read it in one sitting, then I found Life After God in a used books store at a ridiculously low price so I bought it and read it in one sitting. I guess that's the only way to really read his books..the emotional effect would be otherwise dilluted..
I like him a lot, actually, though what I've read is quite dated and Canada-centric.
 
 
Topper
17:24 / 18.01.05
Has anyone else read Eleanor Rigby? I quite like it. The protagonist is a 36 year old single woman whose long-lost son comes back into her life, up-ending her lonely existence. Here's an early passage from our hero, Liz Dunn:

"...I'm not cheerful or domestic. I'm drab, crabby and friendless. I fill my days fighting a constant battle to keep my dignity. Loneliness is my curse--our species' curse--it's the gun that shoots the bullets that make us dance on a saloon floor and humiliate ourselves in front of strangers.

"Where does loneliness come from? I'd hazard a guess that the crapshoot that is family has more than a little to do with it--father's a drunk; mother's an agoraphobic; single child; middle child; firstborn; mother's a nag; father's a golf cheat... I mean, what's your own nature/nurture crapshoot? You're here. You're reading these words. Is this a coincidence? Maybe you think fate is only for others. Maybe you're ashamed to be reading about loneliness--maybe someone will catch you and then they'll know your secret stain. And then maybe you're not even very sure what loneliness is--that's common. We cripple our children for life by not telling them what loneliness is, all of its shades and tones and implications. When it clubs us on the head, usually just after we leave home, we're blindsided. We have no idea what hit us. We think we're diseased, schizoid, bipolar, monstrous and lacking in dietary chromium. It takes us until thirty to figure out what it was that sucked the joy from our youth, that made our brains shriek and burn on the inside, even while our exteriors made us seem as confident and bronzed as Qantas pilots. Loneliness."

Overall I think it has the same feel as Hey! Nostradamus so if you liked that one you'll probably like this one. A couple core characters struggling with the big problems of existence, a few minor characters less rounded, some improbable things that happen to the main ones.. you know the drill. But the surprises are doled out with precision so that at least for me the suspension of disbelief was maintained. Good dialogue, nice descriptions of Vancouver.

I'm one who prefers his later books to his earlier ones. There's something to be said for a thought-provoking book you can read comfortably in one day.

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