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Britain's Best Sitcom

 
  

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Spatula Clarke
14:15 / 16.01.04
Don’t ever accuse terrestrial telly of failing to milk a successful format.

The BBC are running another of those “vote for the best British ... ever” series, this time focussing on sitcoms. They collected votes on the top fifty, which they revealed last weekend, and now each of the top ten gets an hour-long show, with a dubious celeb putting its case forwards.

Sitcoms, when done well, can be wonderful things. Unfortunately, they’re very rarely done well, and this list contained many of the worst offenders.

That top ten (in no particular order):

Open All Hours
The Good Life
One Foot in the Grave
Dad’s Army
Fawlty Towers
Blackadder
Yes, Minister
Only Fools & Horses
Vicar of Dibley
Porridge


I can only presume that the only reason The Good Life made it in was because of the constant repeats, although the psychologists from Big Brother’s Little Brother would, no doubt, attribute it to the viewing public getting fed up with sex and violence on the screen. Same goes for The Vicar of Dibley, the inclusion of which is utterly baffling.

Then there’s Only Fools & Horses, which will undoubtedly win, making the entire exercise even more pointless than it already is. The continued popularity of OF&H is a particular bug-bear of mine – as soon as the show went over to the 50 minute format it lost it’s appeal for me. Rodney is no longer Rodney – the character from the previous episodes no longer exists. We get huge dollops of schmaltz. There’s a vague attempt to introduce some kind of continuity, a change which eventually seems to become the main driving force behind the show. It’s downhill from there, a situation not helped by the BBC constantly reviving it because they feel the need to get a Christmas blockbuster. It’s the antithesis of what Cleese did with Fawlty Towers, and it’ll lead to the show becoming the wide-boy Last of the Summer Wine.

Which is what also happened to One Foot in the Grave.

The fifty included some more real duffers. Last of the Summer Wine, ‘Allo ‘Allo (on which I’m entirely in agreement with Tony Robinson) and Keeping Up Appearances were, thankfully, bookended by the twin peaks of genius that are Father Ted and Steptoe & Son. Why Steptoe didn’t make the ten is beyond me – it’s undoubtedly one of the crowning achievements of the form.

The one huge disappointment, though, was the low position held by The Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin. This, my friends, is one of the greatest television shows ever. It’s complex, it’s heartbreaking, it’s clever, and it’s brilliantly original, inventive and funny. It’s an attack on middle class values, and it works for the same reason that Yes, Minister works – because the attack comes from the inside. Perrin’s breakdown isn’t just a breakdown, it’s an awakening. The end has parallels with the final episode of Marion and Geoff, in that the main character ends up coming back to what he knows because, ultimately, what he needs in order to function is the same thing that eventually wears him down and harms him.

It’s Leonard Rossiter’s finest TV performance. Most people think of him as Rigsby (Rising Damp was about ten places ahead of this), but Rigsby, entertaining as he is, isn’t a huge amount more than a caricature. Rising Damp also pales into insignificance when put alongside RP because of terribly inconsistent scripts and contrived situations. Rossiter effectively has to carry that show on his own, whereas at least RP has Geoffrey Palmer’s Uncle Jimmy in the mix.

So yeah, disappointed that RP wasn’t higher up the list, but not surprised. Out of those that made the ten, I wouldn’t mind seeing Dad’s Army or Porridge win it.

Thoughts? Any obvious choices missing? Why does it seem so difficult for channels to commission decent ones? Does anyone care?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:21 / 16.01.04
Here's the Top 100 list. They only ran through the 50 on the program itself and there's some truly horrendous stuff in the extended list.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:28 / 16.01.04
Yuck. Thoughts:

1. As I glanced over the top 10, the first thing to come to my mind is that "Fawlty Towers" would win.

2. There is no excuse for the Vicar of Dibley to be included there. I don't understand. It was a success?

3. Is it required to be a certain number of years old to make the top ten? Ahhhh... nostalgia. Nothing taints taste more.

4. I'm not a big fan of many of these, to be honest.

5. Shall we try and do our own, like with the "big read" absurdity? If only because it bothers me that Spaced is so low on the list.

6. What actually counts as a sitcom?
 
 
Bear
14:28 / 16.01.04
Fawlty Towers will win surely?

Strange list although as noted yesterday in the paper, no non-BBC choices in the top 10 which will save them money on archive costs, funny eh

Vicar of Dibley, fuckin hell.
 
 
sleazenation
14:34 / 16.01.04
how many decent british sitcoms have there been on non-bbc channels? I can think of 2 both from the last decade and from channel 4 - spaced and father ted -are there any more?
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
14:39 / 16.01.04
If we did our own it'd just be full of cack fantasy sitcoms like Ursula LeGuin's The Vicar of Earthsea...
 
 
Spatula Clarke
14:49 / 16.01.04
I really doubt Fawlty Towers will get into the top five. It's a show that the BBC have never shown a huge amount of faith in - even now, the repeats (when they come around) get played on BBC2. I'd imagine it's an audience figures thing.

I've got issues with Fawlty Towers, anyway - primarily that it steps dangerously close to farce on a number of occasions, and surely nobody in their right mind enjoys farce?

I think there are two kinds of sitcom. The first is the show that keeps a continuity of characters, but leaves situations open to change (other than in the broadest sense). The other is the show that has complete continuity, with events from previous episodes influsncing those in later ones. When a sitcom fucks up is when it decides to change from one to the other.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
15:00 / 16.01.04
The problem with the Great British Sitcoms has struck me for some time now as being that so many of 'em rely on repetition and familiarity. The whole point of a show like 'Allo 'Allo was that the jokes were exactly the same every week, sometimes word for word. "Listen very carefully, I will say this at least once every episode." Cue canned laughter. I never find even old episodes of Only Fools & Horses particularly funny, either - but maybe that's the fault of those clip compilations shows which ensure that any comedy value is squeezed out of the best moments thanks to saturation. Hey, let's see Del Boy lean where the bar was and fall over, again! Let's see them unscrew the wrong chandelier, again! Bah.

Blackadder is the only one of the top 10 I'd like to see get it.
 
 
Gypsy Lantern
15:00 / 16.01.04
Pheonix Nights should have been higher.

"I'm getting a word coming through........nonce?"
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
15:16 / 16.01.04
I'm not really a fan of any of the older ones. I think too many of these shows just remind me being young and silly. Or I've been forced to watch them so many times they've lost all meaning (those that ever had any).

Even Blackadder, for the most part, I couldn't watch now. It would just grate in my brain.

I think Fawlty Towers popped up in my head, purely because that's the one everyone thinks of as the "classic".

It's a shame the newer shows haven't fared too well. Lot's of shows I remember from my teen years, too (nostalgia, arrrgh!). Maybe I'm too young for this.

However, the Vicar of Earthsea outshines them all, and the people who care know that. The people who know real comedy.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:21 / 16.01.04
Repetition should only ever be used as a means of getting a laugh in sketch shows - The Fast Show's the best example I can come up with right now, but there are probably better. Dad's Army, for example, works best when the catchphrases are given a rest and the cast are allowed to act.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
15:36 / 16.01.04
Father Ted at 11 almost redeems... something for me. But then we see Red Dwarf is higher than the Young Ones...
 
 
■
17:32 / 16.01.04
Well, apart from the fact that Fawlty Towers was the only poster still visible when the adverts said clearly both "Who will be the best sitcom ever" and "Vote for your favourite sitcom" in the trailers, I reckon that the subliminals alone make it a foregone conclusion. Still no quibbles, here.
 
 
Char Aina
17:57 / 16.01.04
it steps dangerously close to farce on a number of occasions, and surely nobody in their right mind enjoys farce?

i dunno.
i thought i didnt, but then i realised that i enjoyed watching frasier years ago, and that is definitely farcical in many places.

isnt farce a fairly standard weapon in the sitcommers arsenal?
 
 
UnTaMeD
10:10 / 19.01.04
off the subject a little...
does anyone know where i can get black books series 2 on dvd (no. 48) on the list.
i would have thought that at least red dwarf would have been higher up on the list but taste in comedy, amongst other things, is in the eye of the beholder
 
 
Old brown-eye is back
11:15 / 19.01.04
Given that the narrative of every single episode of Fawlty Towers is driven by hilarious comedy misunderstanding, embarrasment and cruelty I think we can say that it is a little more than dangerously close to farce. It is in fact farce central; the uber farce; King Farce the 5th of Farceland. The difference between Fawlty and Run For Your Trousers is the quality of the writing (which barely ever relies on innuendo for laughs and is pretty believable most of the time) and the sheer insanity of the main character. It works because, for some reason known only to Basil himself, someone getting the Major's false teeth stuck up their arse, Sybil discovering that he's had a bet or Manuel upsetting a group of Cantonese pool cleaners would literally be the end of the world.

I've no idea what Britain's Best Sitcom could be (too many crackers to choose from), but it certainly isn't Only Fools and fucking Horses.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
15:06 / 19.01.04
What the hell is Barbara and why is it above Spaced? Unless it's some sort of post-divorce Good Life spinoff starring Felicity Kendal I just don't understand. And why is Ever Decreasing Circles above Spaced? The world's gone mad!
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
18:19 / 19.01.04
Why, indeed, is anything above Spaced?

They should just do a horizontal list, in order to avoid debate and/or anguish.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
18:38 / 19.01.04
I think Barbara was one of those My Family type pieces of awfulness on ITV. Hang on.

Yeah - Barbara.
 
 
ghadis
19:01 / 19.01.04
Seems 'Barbara' started off well but was ultimatley too 'brutish to base a full series on, let alone four.'

?!?
 
 
Whisky Priestess
20:22 / 19.01.04
The BRITTAS EMPIRE?
GIMME GIMME bloody GIMME??

Outrage. Shock. I'm writing to my MP. And I'm voting.

Damn, those cunning bastards got me again. I'll have to watch to find out how to vote. Do you think that's why they've included such egregious crap?
 
 
luminocity
21:21 / 19.01.04
stradivario -
I think the Black Books 2 DVD is released sometime in March. I'm also looking forward to it, and it should for sure have been higher than 48. As it's genius.
 
 
no-hero
01:22 / 20.01.04
Positive notes on the list, Nightingales got a mention which I’m surprised since no one has any idea what I’m talking about when I mention it ( I’m usually confronted with a clueless expressions). One of those lost gems. I don’t even know if it was released on VHS or DVD by C4.
I failed to see Chelmsford 123 :|
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:30 / 20.01.04
You can Vote Here.
 
 
Whisky Priestess
12:56 / 20.01.04
Thanks. I voted for Yes (Prime) Minister because it's so brilliant (not that Blackadder and Fawlty aren't) in an understated way, but it's not as high-profile nor as bolstered by a slavering fanbase as the others. And I love an underdog.
 
 
■
18:35 / 20.01.04
Spaced isn't a sitcom. It's a way of life. and Simon Pegg is such a nice man. His mum is also very nice, but not very good with a camera.
 
 
Warrington Minge
21:52 / 20.01.04
Originally posted by no-hero

At 04:22 20.01.2004:
Positive notes on the list, Nightingales got a mention which I’m surprised since no one has any idea what I’m talking about when I mention it ( I’m usually confronted with a clueless expressions). One of those lost gems. I don’t even know if it was released on VHS or DVD by C4.
I failed to see Chelmsford 123 :|

Nobody here but us chickens...see there are others who remember. Dont recall a video or DVD though.
I would have liked to see Spaced get higher but then I would have also loved to see Dinnerladies in a prime position and I would imagine most of you would probably shudder at that thought. Doesn't change my opinion of it being one of the best and most subtle sitcoms of recent years.
 
 
Saint Keggers
15:29 / 24.01.04
I cant believe Chef! didnt make the list. I loved that show.
 
 
rizla mission
16:50 / 24.01.04
I am shocked and appalled by the absence of The Young Ones from that top 10 and, in the spirit of said show, will respond by smashing through a balsa wood wall and giving the BBC and/or the British Public a good kicking.
 
 
Panic
17:17 / 24.01.04
Can I just say as a Yanqui, that I'm in constant amazement at the idea of a show running from the early 70s to the mid 80s, yet only having twenty-odd episodes?

Being a British TV exec must be so much less stressful than an American TV exec....
 
 
NotBlue
16:52 / 11.03.04
theres a new series of black books on tonight ch4 10pm, good to see channel 4 arent favouring bland imported anodyne shite over actual funny homegrown talent in their big friday night slot.

*coughwillandgraceandfriendscough*
 
 
Spatula Clarke
12:12 / 04.04.04
Fucking hell.
 
 
Tom Coates
12:33 / 04.04.04
I despise Only Fools and Horses and cannot for the life of me understand why this country has taken it so totally to its heart. It's terrible! Humiliating, frustrating, aggravating comedy about sad depressing failed people. Why would I want to watch that?!
 
 
STOATIE LIEKS CHOCOLATE MILK
14:06 / 04.04.04
Tom- I totally agree. But you're missing the essential point of criticism for that show... it's not very funny.

Fawlty Towers, man that rocked.
Spaced, too, but for probably a smaller demographic.
Oh well. At least it wasn't Last of the Summer Wine.

(is it alright, if i only use lower case and do it very quietly, to come out and say that i've long harboured a secret love of george and mildred?)
 
 
Supaglue
13:10 / 05.04.04
I sure 'Terry and June' should be up there. A classic comedy where Terry has his bank manager/boss/vicar round for tea and scones/dinner and he inadvertantly loses his trousers with hilarious results (X20 episodes).


League of Gentlemen shouldn't have done so poorly, being as its clearly the foundation for alot of shows today - Little Britain and that thing with Vic and Bob spring to mind.
 
  

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