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To The Devil His Dulli: Afghan Whigs & Twilight Singers

 
  

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Regrettable Juvenilia
23:20 / 13.01.04
"This time we go a little lower..."

Greg Dulli might well be the best rock star of the last ten years, but ssshhh, it's a secret. The Afghan Whigs might just be my favourite band of the 90s - certainly they're one of the few bands whose records hooked me immediately but don't diminish after repeated, repeated listens. It's almost hard to believe we've never had a thread on the Whigs before (on this version of Barbelith, anyway). I know there are some fans out there, and I know this is the kind of band you don't just, y'know, kinda like a little. So I'm just going to list my own favourite stuff and then people can take turns.

- The guitar part from 'Gentlemen' and the lyrics everybody knows.

- The cover of 'Creep' by TLC - way before it was almost obligatory for indie or rock bands to record 'knowing', 'ironic' covers, and long before indie and 'alternative' kids stopped hating modern black pop even for a moment, the Afghan Whigs did a straight version of this. It's superb - the match of the original, which is saying something.

- The fact that they also covered 'The Temple', a song from the musical Jesus Christ Superstar, and totally made it their own. It might as well have been one of Dulli's songs anyway, all that imagery of salvation and sin.

- All of Black Love, which will always be in my top 10 favourite albums. I bought it without having ever heard a note by 'em back when I was still relatively inexperienced in terms of music and everything else, and nothing's ever been quite the same since. From 'Crime Scene Part One' to 'Faded', it's just unspeakably perfect. You can really tell that this is band who want their albums to feel like movies, and for once that doesn't mean boring instrumentals. This is rock noir. Rich, dark, elegantly wasted, burning with passion. GO AND GET THIS IF YOU DON'T OWN IT ALREADY YOU FOOLS.

- Again, all of 1965. Dulli's own favourite of their albums, and I can see why, because here they finally became a fully-fledged soul band. Side one is just a sequence of flawless dirty pop songs, really. Side two dips into murkier territory once again.

- the new Twilight Singers album, Blackberry Belle. I've talked about this in the end of year thread, let's just say it's more of the same, molasses and bourbon, Lucky Strike and staying up all night, plus all the nasty pull-the-curtains-shut stuff when it goes wrong in the morning. Inspired by death and Jack London, features musicians including Appollonia and Mark Lanegan.

- "don't forget the alcohol, oooh baby, oooh baby!"

Any more for any more?

"I don't sleep cuz sleep is the cousin of death,
Least that's what Nas say..."
 
 
bio k9
02:31 / 14.01.04
Wow. I haven't listened to any of that stuff in a while. Some bits off the top of my head before I try to dig out the discs:



Congregation. When I first got this the cover bothered me the same way that Lou Reed's "and the coloured girls go..." from Walk on the Wild Side (and countless other white rock songs from the 70s) still bothers me. Hrmm. Unlike a lot of early SubPop crap the cover isn't juat a picture of the band, it's a statement of intent and it certainly marks a departure from the "grunge" of Up In It. This is a good place to start following the evolution of Dulli and Co. even if the best lyrics are whispered 30 seconds in:

I know your ass is fine
but I'm the only who one can say...
that it's mine




Gentlemen sports one of the greatest album covers of all time. This is it for the Whigs as far as I'm concerned. I know they're a better band now, whatever. I heard it at that time, that point when an album matches your life in seemingly ridiculous ways and it just sticks with you. Now I only listen to this album when I'm in that mood and I know it can't possibly be as good as I think it is. Never the less, a beautifully troubled album and if I ever meet Marcy Mays I'm gonna kiss her on the lips.


I'm burning dinner. I'll come back and bang on some more later.
 
 
pomegranate
18:31 / 14.01.04
you *cannot* put this thread up right now, i have work to do! i will be back, i have LOTS to say, including a description of how greg's hands feel to the touch.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:33 / 14.01.04
I was going to talk about this when you listed Black Love in the Essential Albums thread, Fly, but didn’t want to pull it off-track.

For me, Gentlemen is absolutely the perfect Whigs artefact. I suppose that might be something to do with hearing it when it came out – my first exposure to the group, and, like Bio, one that coincided with a certain period of my own life that seemed to give it a special resonance.

Both Black Love and 1965, on the other hand, left me cold. Not entirely - Blame, Etc. and Going to Town are among their best songs, and while it didn’t contain anything that made any great impact, 1965 has a couple of tracks which I like well enough – but enough for me to be disappointed with them.

I think it’s all about the atmosphere those albums (don’t) have. Gentlemen feels exactly like what it is – a few people in a small room hammering out all the self-disgust and mutual hatred from every fucked up relationship they’ve ever been a part of and previously left simmering under the surface, a sudden explosion of emotion after years of dull feeling, but still kinda revelling in the filth and shame of it all. And then, underneath it all, vulnerability, tenderness and a desperate need for love. The band feel tight, tighter than on any of their other releases, an Dulli’s in prime form, with a control over his voice that’s often sacrificed on the later albums.

Black Love and 1965, on the other hand, stretch for a big sound by increasing the instrumental range and widening out the production, and I’ve always felt that the songs get lost in amongst it all. Plus Dulli’s lyrics just don’t hit me in the same way as they do throughout Gentlemen. There’s nothing to touch Now You Know, or Debonair, or My Curse.

My Curse. If pushed to name one, I’d mark that out as the best thing they ever got down on record. That song haunted me for fucking years.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
21:28 / 15.01.04
I resigned myself a while ago to the fact that I'm probably the only Afghan Whigs fan in the world whose favourite album is Black Love (appallingly though, I seem to have misplaced my copy, and - here my opinion's validity starts to crumble - I don't own Gentlemen, although I am familiar with it). I guess it has a lot to with a) the fact that it was my first, and so had that "special resonance" Mr Dupre mentions, and b) the fact that I'm always interested in albums where you can hear where the band are coming from and where they're going, and I get this most from that one. Plus 'Going To Town', 'My Enemy', 'Honky's Ladder' (Honky's fucking Ladder, man!), 'Bulletproof', 'Summer's Kiss' (okay, I am just going to list all the tracks on the album if I keep going, so I'll stop now). But seriously, if there any people out there who also like this album best, they should write to me and we can be penpals or something.
 
 
The Falcon
02:22 / 16.01.04
God, I loved the Whigs. Saw 'em once live, at King Tut's in Glasgow, where they did a cover of Lauryn Hill's 'X-Factor' live, and it was great. I'm only disappointed I didn't ever get to see them cover Prince.

May go to Twilight Singers at the end of this month, aksherly. I was devastated by the split, and never got round to picking up Twilight stuff. DL'd a few recently, and am definitely interested, but I doubt the guitar's as good.

It was all about the guitars. And the bloody soul.

I know with my heart of hearts that 'Gentlemen' is the most accomplished album, probably the best, but I think I listen to 'Congregation' more; particularly 'Miles iz Dead' at the end.

'Don't forget the alcohol, ooh baby'

Probably my fave Whigs original. But the 'What Jail is Like' special EP I've got has the bombingest duocover of 'My World is Empty Without You' and 'I Hear A Symphony'. It is fantastic, and I urge you to seek it out.

Thinking about it, they fucking knew how to fade out an album; the aforementioned 'Milez...', 'Brother Woodrow', 'Faded' and 'Omerta/The Vampire Lanois'. All absolutely of the piece, appropriately gripping and apposite closers. Real sense of occasion.
 
 
bio k9
04:17 / 16.01.04
I can't believe I failed to mention their cover of the Ass Ponys' Mr. Superlove (also from the What Jail Is Like ep). Dulli's voice masks the lyrics and he not only conjures sympathy but somehow manages to make domestic violence sound sexy.

Probably my single favorite Whigs track.
 
 
pomegranate
15:46 / 23.01.04
the afghan whigs are one of my favorite live bands, ever. greg is a showman.
i first got into the whigs via gentlemen, as i'm sure many of you did also. it is one of my top ten of all time records, and is the earliest record i ever bought that i still genuinely like w/no trace of liking simply for nostalgia value. (you know those records that you wonder, "if this came out tomorrow, would i like it, or do i like it now cos i liked it then?" sorry...another thread.) i was thirteen and the idea that it resonated so deeply w/me then is pretty laughable, as i knew nothing about sex or painful relationships at the time. plus, it just rocks. now i know it's a great sex record, too. standouts include basically every song, but i think "fountain and fairfax" is one of the best songs ever recorded. once, in concert, greg said, as a way of introducing the song, "and this is an intersection in los angeles, called...fountain and fairfax." and i am such a dork that the next time i went to l.a., i found that intersection and my sister and i (she's also a huge fan) took our pictures at it. i can't believe i'm admitting this. of course, "my curse" is beautiful. at first i didn't like it cos it wasn't greg singing (and by "at first" i mean, like, the first six years), but then the song resonated w/me more as i got more, ahem, experienced in some of the things i just mentioned being unfamiliar w/when i first got this record, and i liked it more. also, gentlemen has one of the best album covers ever, ever. recently i looked at it and realized that those kids must be legal now and thought, fuck i'm old.

i like congregation, too, it took me forever to realize that they covered a song from jesus christ superstar, cos it does kinda sound like them, and i didn't know the musical until recently. yeah i don't know how i feel about that cover, but oh well. standouts from that record, for me, include "i'm her slave," "turn on the water," "let me lie to you," and the aforementioned "miles iz ded."

black love never really grabbed me. yeah, flyboy, honky's fucking ladder! that song is amazing. it's a much more depressing album of course. i also like "faded."

my sister quite likes up in it, but it's a little rough for me. "retarded" is so great though.

i love getting ready to go out on a date while listening to 1965. cos it's such a sexy record, as greg said, "guilt takes a backseat to lust on this album." and many sexy records, say portishead records, are kinda downers, and not good for getting pepped up to go out, knamsayin? my fave songs are "crazy," and "66." this is also a good fuck record. i first had the promo version of this album, given to me by a boyfriend that worked at a record store. but i lost it, somehow, and replaced it, but then found that the intro to "city soleil" was different. it is, i swear. oh, and does anyone know what the woman is saying in "sweet son of a bitch," since it's reversed? at least, it seems reversed. i've always wondered.

i saw the twilight singers a month or two ago. great show. they played some whigs tracks, everyone ate it up. i liked the first twilight singers record, but a few tracks are my favorites, names of which are failing me atm. interestingly, i usually prefer songs that rock, esp. dulli songs, but on this record, since it doesn't rock that much, i like the ones that don't rock better. i think i just feel that if yr gonna rock, then rock. if not, then okay. blackberry belle (such the greg dulli title, really) is good, i think i'm liking it better than the first album, cos, you know, it rocks more. (why yes, i am eloquent. in my spare time, i am a music critic.) the word is that greg had written almost an entire record, but when his good friend ted demme died, he scrapped it and came up w/this instead. i hope he decides to release those tracks someday.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
17:27 / 23.01.04
Greg Dulli's music has always been a frustrating thing for me - it's something which always sounds great when people describe it. I mean, if I'd never heard the band before and I read some of the descriptions of it up the thread, I'd be flipping out. But the music itself always lets me down. Even the best songs just sound like slightly dated alt-rock, and it is never quite as sexy or soulful as any of the fans make it out to be. I just checked over the Dulli ouvre again before posting in this thread, and I remain unconvinced. It always seems like something that's almost good, but it's just never quite there.

Maybe the problem for me is that I just can't get into Dulli's aesthetic. I'm not really into noir, or romanticizing sleaze/bad relationships. That stuff just bores the hell out of me, and I just can't relate to it. I definitely don't think the Afghan Whigs' music is sexy, but hey.

Flyboy should be pleased to know that I think that Black Love is easily the best album of Dulli's career, though I don't share his enthusiasm for it.
 
 
lord nuneaton savage
17:54 / 23.01.04
I don't usually go for the 'just-one-more-whisky-I-hate/love-ma-woman-aint-the-night-dark' schtick either, but fuck those guys rocked. 'What Jail is Like' has the best screamy chorus ever, and I'd like to take some time out to just congratulate their bass player (whatever the hell his name is) that guy is smokin'...
Also have a fantastic Peel sessions version of 'Tonight', which I taped off the radio years ago, which used to make me want to swallow dive of bridges hand in hand with my (non-existent) loved one. Awright.
 
 
pomegranate
19:12 / 23.01.04
i forgot to mention that since flyboy brought it up, i have downloaded the whigs' version of "creep," and it is indeed amazing, straight up, no irony. i've been listening to it so much that i sang tlc's version at karaoke, cos i know the song now. also good is their cover of "can't get enough of your love babe," off of the beautiful girls soundtrack.

greg's favorite movie of all time is jaws, and he's a taurus. i'm here to provide the teen beat info, obv.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
22:44 / 24.01.04
Maybe the problem for me is that I just can't get into Dulli's aesthetic. I'm not really into noir, or romanticizing sleaze/bad relationships. That stuff just bores the hell out of me, and I just can't relate to it.

But do you like Mobb Deep, some Nas, Method Man and Jay-Z, don't you? I ask this mostly rhetorical question (can't remember yr take on the Mobb) because given what I know about your tastes, I suspect you might be resistant to the bravado and swagger that's there in the persona Dulli acts out in a lot of his music, but I don't really see how it's different from that acted out by Biggie, Meth, etc. Maybe Meth isn't a good example because he doesn't do the noir thing - okay, Meth is like Dulli on most of 1965. The rest of the Whigs stuff can be more like Big or Mobb Deep's stories - I think it's really obvious that Dulli aspires to that kind of dark storytelling: "met a girl, she told me to come to her house alone, when I did I was surrounded by my enemies and I had to kill them all, and her, and I feel bad about it, so I drink/smoke the pain away". Of course he does it in a much more elliptical way on the whole - eg, 'Crime Scene Part One' would be less specific if it wasn't for the title. But the point is, I think you're more amenable to this aesthetic than you might think, if it comes from a slightly different angle. It's all about sinning in a very self-aware way. What Jay-Z's saying on 'Allure' is the same as what Greg Dulli's saying in, well, too many songs to mention.

But if you just don't dig the way it sounds, I guess that's fair enough.

One of the things that fascinates me about Dulli is his relationship to hip hop, specifically the way that often seems to be trying to make rock music that does what alternative rock usually doesn't do very well, but which hip hop does easily - music that's full of a kind of muscular, dare I say specifically masculine energy (although Dulli balances this with a lot of femininity, most obviously his use of falsetto). He also include some neat little references for trivia geeks. My favourite example of this is not the obvious "least that's what Naz say", but the barely audible "Who's hot, who's not?" at the start of 'Crazy' - a line originally uttered by, of all people, Ma$e.

Apparently Dulli appears on the Muggs from Cypress Hill's oddball solo album. In an interview he claims to have "a full-on hetero crush" on Muggs, which is kinda sweet. This info and lots more I found via Summer's Kiss, pretty much a dream site for Whigs fans... Another bit of trivia: apparently the unreleased 'upbeat' Twilight Singers album that got put on the back-burner even had a title, Amber Headlights.
 
 
Old brown-eye is back
01:20 / 25.01.04
I interviewed Dulli at the end of last year and he admitted having a full on hetero crush on Appollonia. And still having a dick for a brain.

Fly, if you're interested (and there are tickets left,) the Twilight Singers are playing the Academy in Islington this Wednesday.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:47 / 25.01.04
But do you like Mobb Deep, some Nas, Method Man and Jay-Z, don't you? I ask this mostly rhetorical question (can't remember yr take on the Mobb) because given what I know about your tastes, I suspect you might be resistant to the bravado and swagger that's there in the persona Dulli acts out in a lot of his music, but I don't really see how it's different from that acted out by Biggie, Meth, etc.

Well, for one, we're talking about totally different genres/styles of music, so I think it's a real apples/oranges thing to say "well, you like these macho rap guys, why don't you like this guy who likes them too?" On a personal level, the lyrical content of the artists you're mentioning is secondary to my enjoyment of the music and vocals, whereas my problem with Dulli is not the lyrics so much as that I think the actual music is dull. Even if I ignore the differences in genre, I think that Dulli is just not a peer of Biggie, the Wu-Tang Clan, Jay-Z, Nas, etc. He is not on that skill level, as far as I'm concerned. Who would I consider to be a peer of Dulli? Let's see, who is a slightly washed-up second rate 90s alt-rock guy - I don't know, Dave Pirner? Lou Barlow? Eddie Vedder, if I'm being very charitable?

On a lyrical level, I don't really like Dulli's aesthetic for more or less the same reasons that I can't get into a comic like 100 Bullets. It's more like that.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
18:13 / 26.01.04
That said, I should mention that I when I checked the Whigs discography a few days ago, I did discover that I really love the song "66."
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:01 / 28.01.04
I'd forgotten that 'Somethin' Hot' features in an episode of Six Feet Under - it's playing in the strip club as David starts to leave and drunkenly decides to call a hustler in 'The Trip'.

Anyway, I'm going to see the Twilight Singers tonight - wasn't sure I'd be able to, but fortunately there were/are still tickets - I am psyched.
 
 
pomegranate
14:04 / 28.01.04
have fun! i had a great time seeing them last month.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:33 / 04.02.04
Lazy cross-posting ahoy - some thoughts on the London gig:

Greg Dulli's showmanship is well-known, but I'll confess to tiny reservations when he swaggered on several minutes after the rest of the band, with cigarette clamped in his mouth and drink in one hand, and said "Hello London. Did you miss me?" That's the kind of cockiness you really have to make sure you live up to. The first three songs were pretty great - a much more raucous 'Esta Noche' than the album version, 'Teenage Wristband' and 'Twilight Kid' - but I think it was around the point of their cover of 'A Love Supreme' that I really decided my god, Dulli's self-belief is really not unreasonable at all - in fact, it's part of what makes him such a good frontman.

'Decatur St' is probably the track from Blackberry Belle that benefitted the most in a live setting. Don't get me wrong, I like the recorded version, but on stage it clatters and roars even more so, the band really ripping into that chorus, everything shifted up a notch.

On the basis of 'King Only' and 'Love', I may need to buy the first Twilight Singers album. 'Love' got two airings - one began with Dulli singing the beginning of 'All You Need Is...', another came during the first encore, with Dulli alone behind the keyboard, and began with a partial cover of Outkast's 'Roses' - "y'all know this, right?" - which really brought out the viciousness of the song. So appropriate, too - it may make sense that Dulli digs The Love Below, but that track in particular could have been written for him.

Dulli's habit of inserting snippets of other songs into his own is both brilliant and maddening - maddening because I've been trying to figure out why the additional coda of "I think you're crazy, baby" on 'Crazy' was so familiar, and only just remembered that it's the chorus of Radiohead's 'Motion Picture Soundtrack'. Nice. (Another nice touch: 'Martin Eden' was dedicated to Dr David Kelly because, do you see?)

Best of all was the second encore. 'Uptown Again', annouced as a reference to this being Greg Dulli's first time in London for four years ("I'm not normally a sentimental man, but...") was a treat, but for the Twilight Singers to play 'Hey Ya!'*, tearing into it with the kind of gusto that can only come from loving it as much as, well, we all do, right? - that was something of a dream come true. Yeah, so I *am* a sentimental man, so sue me.

*After this, Dulli jokingly explained that while he loves Outkast, and would never accuse Andre 3000 of stealing from him, he wrote 'Hey Ya!' five years ago. Cue '66'. Now, it must be stressed that the two songs have very little common apart from inciting people to "shake it", but there is one little "oooh-ooooh" bit in '66' over which you can sing the chorus to 'Hey Ya!' and make it fit, as was thus demonstrated - yes, it was a joke, but a nice one.
 
 
pomegranate
19:07 / 04.02.04
i so rarely meet guys that like the whigs.* where the hell is that barbecrush thread.

*not to infer anything, just my experience.
 
 
somavee
20:05 / 04.02.04
Just wanted to drop in and say that I flipped out in ecstatic joy when Dulli went from 'Hey Ya' into '66' and felt my heart jump when he did those bits off of Gentleman. Barbecrush indeed. I hope he comes back to the states soon.
 
 
shirleydoe
20:46 / 24.02.04
Speaking as someone who followed the Whigs around on the last 2-3 dates of their last tour, knowing it would be the last time they'd play live...

I seriously can't even explain to you the sheer musical excitement that night, the last night in their hometown, with everyone else knowing all the words just like I did, almost crying as they played a shitload of stuff that "we'd never play again."

My devotion to the Whigs stems from one moment in my life: travelling from Kansas to Pittsburgh, passed out psychotic stripper/porn star drug fiend beatifully asleep in the front seat, middle of the night no one on the road, listening to Gentlemen as I fought sleep from the long drive with no idea of what state I was in...and then it hit me as I listened to this album. This was my life.

Thanks for letting me indulge.
 
 
enochen23
17:53 / 25.02.04
I saw the Twlight Singers about a month ago here in LA,and I have seen the Whig's 7 or 8 times,I lose count,but the Singers dare i say are even better.

i myself can't pick a favorite Whig's album as they all go to different parts of my life and stand for different things.Oddly enough I equate each album with an ex-girlfriend.A hero for the ages Dulli is though.Only he can get away with being such a charming bastard.Emphasis on the word BASTARD.
 
 
Spatula Clarke
01:15 / 16.03.04
There was previously a spam post above. It's been deleted as a link to the official site (here) will suffice, seeing as it's got all the info on dates and venues.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
07:31 / 16.03.04
No plans for returning to the UK any time soon then... The good news, as listed on the various websites linked to above, is that the band are currently recording an EP of cover versions entitled She Loves You. Here's the tracklisting:

'Strange Fruit' (Billy Holiday)
'Ain't Nobody' (Chaka Khan)
'Too Tough to Die' (Martina Topley-Bird)
'A Love Supreme' (Coltrane)
'Please Stay' (Marvin Gaye)
'Cloudbusting' (Kate Bush)
'Real Love' (Mary J Blige)
'Summertime' (Gershwin)

It'll be very nice to hear a studio version of number four there.
 
 
The Falcon
11:53 / 16.03.04
'Ain't Nobody'?

I sense another 'Creep' here. Yesyesyes.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
13:15 / 29.04.04
Fantastic Greg Dulli interview over at the Plan B website. Some choice Dulli lines:

"I work best well after midnight. When everybody's asleep and it kind of feels like I appropriate the world... I live a very fictional life."

"I'm into sleep deprivation now and that's the weirdest high you can get. Y'know, a little caffeine, some chocolate; that's all I needed. At that point drugs do nothing... A sleep deprivation high is the highest I've ever been."


He really is a vampire with a soul. I think the best bit, however is where the writer (David McNamee) argues that myth of Dulli is all a sham, a hustle, but that this is why it's so great - because "Authenticity is a by-word for lack of imagination" - too fucking right - I'm going to get that sewn onto a pillow.
 
 
pomegranate
19:32 / 05.05.04
i just went to dulli's bar in los angeles, and of course they have a fantastic jukebox. i played "only shallow," "the killing moon," and "summer breeze."

when i saw them last month here in chicago, greg came out for the encore and played "dancing queen" on the piano and sang. he chastised some people in the front, "don't you fuckin' laugh at me!" the band also played "don't fear the reaper," which segued into a song off of 1965, which i can't remember atm. at the end of the show, he cockily announced, "and THAT is what they call a rock show!!" only he can get away w/that shit.
 
 
Darth Phil
21:46 / 05.05.04
Apparently the new cover's album will have a cover version of Bjork's Hyperballad with Mark Lanegan...

That doesn't half make me feel all warm and tingly all over
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
14:22 / 03.09.04
Picked up She Loves You yesterday. No 'Ain't Nobody' or 'Cloudbusting' on there, though I did just read a review that claimed this is the first in a planned trilogy (!) of covers albums. It's possible, I guess.

Highlights so far: 'Too Tough To Die', which as Dulli has said could almost have been written for him, and certainly tempts to me to check out some more of Martine Topley-Bird's solo career; 'Real Love' (a cover of the Mary J Blige song done somewhat in the style of the reformed Beatles song, only good); best of all 'A Love Supreme' / 'Please Stay (Once You Go Away)', which takes me back to their live show and is a great segue - we go from luxuriating in how great a relationship is to feeling the urgency as Dulli begs for it not to end...

You can read Dulli's comments on all the tracks here.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
22:11 / 09.05.06
New Twilight Singers album Powder Burns is out next week! Recorded and produced in pre- and post-Katrina New Orleans, and featuring a guest appearance from Ani Di Franco, it's supposedly Dulli's "getting clean" album after seven years or so of being fucked-up. I can never tell the difference, but I'll take his word on it. Anyway, the advance word is that this one is not only very good but is actually finding favour as a, y'know, blah blah blah classic rock album. Denis Leary called it "the best rock album I've heard in 10 years" on some talk show, if that means anything to you (that Von Bondies tune is the only good thing about Rescue Me, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt).

I can confirm at least having heard 'I'm Ready' and 'Forty Dollars' that they are instant Dulli home runs - the latter features him stealing/adlibbing from both The Beatles and Outkast. The band are back in the UK in July - woot!
 
 
haus of fraser
18:37 / 10.05.06
I downloaded some twight singers stuff ages ago- but never really got into it- but I hit some on ipod shuffle the other day and thought it was rather good- so i need to go out and buy some! wanna recommend the best thing to get?

I loved Gentlemen and congregation- but kind of lost interest on Black Love- I saw them at Reading in '94- and the best moment was when Marcy May from scrawl joined them for "My Curse"- Dulli was cool and they rocked- but this is their best song without a shadow of doubt and the whole field joined in...

"You look like me,
and i look like no-one else..."


One of those really really cool gig things that i normally miss, but this time i'm so glad i didn't!
 
 
lonely as a cloud...
07:47 / 16.05.06
Flyboy - thank you so much for this thread.
 
Afghan Whigs were a band I meant to check out - I saw them about 10 years ago, and liked them, and also heard some good stuff by them on various free CDs, but I didn't know anyone who had any of their albums, and as I was a student at the time I didn't really have much money to buy CDs. But this thread reminded me, and I got Black Love and 1965 and downloaded some covers (Creep, How Soon Is Now?, Lost In The Supermarket)...wow.
 
Again; Flyboy, I salute thee.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
14:45 / 27.05.06
I've always liked Greg Dulli in interviews, and wanted to help finance his lifestyle - he once, amusingly, told a journalist that 'you haven't lived until you've gone skiing on ecstasy,' but based on just a brief listen to 'Gentlemen' I was never too sure about the Afghan Whigs. The new Twilight Singers album is excellent though. It's a lot more melodic than expected, almost Beatles-esque in places (to the point of actually quoting 'She Loves You' at one stage - it's less clunky than it sounds,) and could conceivably, IMVHO, be their 'The Soft Bulletin' if it gets the exposure. You can picture him there in New Orleans at Four in the morning, gazing out on the city he loves with his guitar, a bottle of whisky and a disastrous amount of coke. Fans of, I don't know, Mercury Rev, Rufus Wainwright's later stuff and Spiritualised would probably enjoy. Certainly, it's good to be on the music forum and not complaining or being pointlessly sarcastic about Tool or whoever, for once. Greg apparently owns a couple of bars at the moment, so he probably doesn't really need the money. but still, it would be good if this was massive. Increasingly, I find myself hating pretty much everything, to a degree that bores even me, but there isn't a bad song on there. Just really well-done, drugged-out rock and roll, damnit. *Waves lighter in the air.*
 
 
Alex's Grandma
14:48 / 27.05.06
(Apparently they're playing in London in July, so if anyone's up for going ...)
 
 
Kali, Queen of Kitteh
16:37 / 09.11.06
Sweet Jesus, this was one of the best live shows I have ever seen. And they had Mark Lanegan with them, too, whom I am convinced might be dead.
 
  

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