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Contemporary folk characters

 
 
Sax
10:26 / 07.01.04
Who do we have in the 21st Century who we could count as a "folk character". Who are the modern day Robin Hoods and Pied Pipers?

I'm thinking along the lines of "Luther Blissett" and "Karen Eliot" - multiple, open-source "identities". But also of a more mythic, urban legend kind of thing.

Any offers?
 
 
bjacques
10:38 / 07.01.04
How about Andre the Giant, Tupac Shakur, who died stupid but has become a sort of thug saint, or Osama bin Laden, to much of the Arab world? He's on a lot of T-shirts. Che Guevara and Sub-Commandante Marcos.

They're all people who've become legends for various reasons.
 
 
Sax
11:11 / 07.01.04
All good cultural icons, certainly, but I'm looking more for "non-real" people, in a general contemporary and specifically urban sense... modern city spirits or legendary figures, popular culture myths.
 
 
_Boboss
11:54 / 07.01.04
'specifically urban'

the green man - he used to be the generative/protective(?) spirit of the forest, now he helps you negotiate the paths of the concrete jungle?

and in terms of non-real people you could argue that most peoples' apprehension of fame is one where the sleb is not afforded many qualities of 'reality'.

in the last few years american culture has thrown up a lot of variations on a kind of urban samurai or ninja theme {the Wu, sam jack, ghost dog] which is perhaps a step toward acknowledging through drama that succesful urban survival requires unique, strict, sometimes dangerous strategies and disciplines.

also there's the graylien, hardly fresh any more but here to stay and arguably serving a function similar to the pied piper's.

john titor? the UMMO 'hoaxters'? ziggy stardust? jenny everywhere?

good question
 
 
Jub
14:17 / 07.01.04
I have been racking my brains with this one Sax.

It seems almost all of our Myths and Legends are not rooted in "reality" the way they used to be but in the "reality" of films, books, comics etc. Any supposedly true story can be debunked (or, equally proved true) faster than you can say snopes.com. This means there is little room for belief in the myths of real life.

The precedence which this has set, means that the modern myths that are most commonly talked about are from films - either from the characters point of view - eg the world of Usual Suspects and Kaiser Soze to myths which spill over into real life - eg Blair Witch etc.

Besides that I can only think of generic myths (of people at least) such as the milkman who gives bored housewifes more than a couple of pints of gold top (!) and other exaggerated stereotypes.
 
 
unheimlich manoeuvre
14:08 / 09.01.04
George Soros because he like gave all that money to promote democracy in Eastern Europe and the USA.
 
 
Ninjas make great pets
14:16 / 09.01.04
then thars that Bill Gates fella.. Legend 'as it that if he so much as stopped to pick up a penny it'd lose him millions! ..Y'arrr..

you know thats actually a though one. Do we need to wait for 3 or 4 generations to really see who are the characters of this time?
 
 
Mazarine
19:54 / 09.01.04
Well, there are sort of mythical/legendary archetypes from the past- the bard, the warrior/poet, the benevolent thief, etc, and as Scott Thompson from "The Kids in the Hall" once said, "One day, the character of the gay waiter will be a folk hero."

I imagine there are a lot more local folk heroes, you know, neighborhood folk heroes, college campus folk heroes. We used to have a young man at my college called "Crazy Leo" who wore a kilt all the time, and had raised his bedframe to its highest setting, taken off the mattress and built a fort underneath. I don't know if they still talk about him, but damned if they shouldn't.

Who are the modern Robin Hoods? I'm not really sure. I think that maybe, somewhere, there's a freelance accountant who charges rich people ridiculous amounts of money to do their taxes, but then manages to find every tax they ought to pay, and then does poor peoples' taxes, and finds them insane deductions that the IRS owes them, and then rides off into the night. I do not know that accountant's name, but he or she should have hir praises sung through the centuries.
 
 
Cop Killer
20:35 / 09.01.04
I don't think that this counts as modern day Robin Hood, but there is a lot of talk, wherever I go, about some guy that accidentally took three sheets of acid and now believes himself to be an orange.
I think the modern day Robin Hoods work in a different way, in a negative reinforcement type of way. They teach us not to stick frozen hotdogs in our orifices, not to rub peanut butter on our genitals so that our dogs will perform oral sex on us, not to flash our brights at cars driving around at night without their lights, y'know, things like that. Perhaps we have moved, as a culture, from do nice things for poor people to don't do wierd things in the privacy of your own home, and, while your at it, don't try to be helpful to other people, they might kill you for it to get into a gang.
 
 
The Strobe
21:32 / 09.01.04
Here's an idea: bear with me.

Max Headroom.

He's a folk character in that he seems to have developed a personality outside his original purpose; to wit, the digital TV host in a one-off TV movie suddenly becomes a digital tv host on... real music tv... and eventually is known by more people for his music tv work than the original (crap) movie.

And as a buzzword, he's hard to beat; even though he was Matt Frewer under dodgy video and a plastic wig, he's still always referred to as the "first digital tv presenter", succeeded by Ananova, for god's sake.

Essentially, though, the myth, the legend, is greater than the man.
 
 
Mazarine
21:44 / 09.01.04
Max Headroom was a sensational show. I used to have a Max Headroom t-shirt from the Coca-Cola ad campaign. It was indeed a joy.
 
 
grant
20:52 / 10.01.04
Vincent "The Chin" whatsisname, the gangster in the bathrobe.
 
  
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