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Ganesh
04:55 / 01.01.04
Welcome to 2004, y'all! The lovely Xoc and me are sunning ourselves in Thailand for the next three-and-a-half weeks; having rather enjoyed writing the semi-blog last time we went abroad (to India, almost three years ago), thought I'd spew out random thoughts here. Sort of an interactive record of the holiday.

So... the planned itinerary:

Seven days in Bangkok, then moving on to Cambodia, and Angkor Wat for five days. Back to Thailand (Krabi) for another five days, then Phuket for the final week. Reckoned we were too old, soft and sybaritic to do the backpacker thing, so have booked a comfortably swanky hotel for the city (wanted somewhere to relax after hot sweaty ladyboy action) and mid-range places for the 'lying around on the beach' parts.

And the place we're staying, on Sukhumvit Road, is something of a swankfest. Barely had time to appreciate it on our arrival yesterday though, before succumbing to west-to-east jetlag so serotonin-sapping it virtually had me weeping at 'Finding Nemo' (Gulf Air's inflight film, with groovy Arabic subtitles). Reminded of the bit at the start of William Gibson's 'Pattern Recognition' where the heroine talks about travelling faster than one's soul, which spools out across the ether behind one, having to be reeled in over 24 hours.

Recovered in time for New Year, though (duty-free champagne helped), and took potluck with eating places, ending up at a superb Thai-Italian fusion-type restaurant with a whopping eight-course New Year menu. Wine waiter particularly attractive - which is weird, as I've never found Thai men especially desirable. Mind you, I remember this happening in India too; after a week or so, we both began to fetishise side-partings and moustaches. Thai men tend to be clean-shaven, though, with relatively little body hair. Unsurprisingly, Spartacus doesn't list any 'bear bars' (although there is 'Ichub', a club exclusively for 'chubbies and their chasers).

High points so far:

- The bathroom. Why are really good hotel bathrooms so appealing? This one's particularly nice: all softly-lit marbled surfaces, orchids (there are orchids everywhere - lovely, lovely orchids), big fluffy white towels (and bathrobes and slippers) and a vast array of expensive cosmeticky things. And a huuuge marble bath.

- The plants. Not just the ubiquitous orchids but the enormous fanned banana plants around the shaded roof garden pool, and the lush hanging things, and the big shallow pots planted with water-lilies.

- Smileyness. The Thais are big on smiling; one of the first things we saw on arrival was an airport tourism poster exhorting us to 'All Smile, All The Time'. Hmmm, that'd go down well in London. According to reliable old Lonely Planet, smiling is an important way of 'saving face' and almost always the best response in any given situation. Bizarrely, smiling back at smiley Thaiboys and girls is quite infectious.

- A dog we saw last night, wearing a t-shirt. Xoc got its photo.

Not-sure-if-I-like-it stuff:

- The tacky bar where we actually passed the stroke of midnight (because we failed to find the curiously named 'Inter Moustache' gay go-go bar in time), a sort-of-but-not-really ironic 'pub' rejoicing in the name 'Bangkockney'. Wild-looking Thai women bursting balloons with their cigarettes, while seedy-looking farang men ordered overpriced drinks. Got the distinct impression we were being sized up as potential clients and, as with India, coming across less as a couple of poofs than as two asexual saddoes. Hmmm.

- The vague but tangible air of almost-prostitution. The 'wanna massage' stuff is pretty familiar, but what we've seen of the male/female Thai/non-Thai dynamic is such that it's difficult to get a drink in a bar without a certain amount of... attention. Guess we need to find those gay bars; at least then we'd be rebuffing attractive Thai men...

- The namaste-like hands-together wai gesture of greeting. It's apparently good form to return the wai unless one is waied by children or 'servants' - but it feels really rude to ignore the hotel staff, so we've been waiing them back, and wondering if we're making tits of ourselves, or what. Anyone know the etiquette on this?

Oh yeah, and I see from BBC World that Edinburgh's Hogmanay Street Party was cancelled at the last minute because of high winds. Bummer.

S'all for now. Will probably be popping in fairly frequently to update this. In the meantime, can anyone recommend decent fiction set in Thailand. I've already reread 'The Beach'.

Happy New Year!
 
 
Sax
18:22 / 01.01.04
Aha, wondered where you two were. Should have guessed it would have been some fleshpot or other, and Widnes is too cold at this time of year.

Several years since I was in Thailand, but good memories of Bangkok, although I was only there a couple of days. Spent longer in Phuket; where are you staying? There's a seedy red-light district there but it's quite fun to go to; when the girls know you're with a partner they relax a bit (presumably because they know you're not going to be wanting to come in their hair at the end of the night) and they'll have a chat to you and take the piss out of fat English blokes sweating into their beer.

Enjoy. I'll look forward to your despatches.
 
 
Ganesh
05:26 / 02.01.04
Might've known you'd've been here, Sax; I was just telling Xoc we ought to check the bars for pictures of 'Dave and his bird' a la Candolim...

I've been in Bangkok before too, around 10 years ago, in the somewhat impoverished gap between graduation and starting work. It was much nearer the backpacker conceit (as I've been reminded by today's Garlandesque trip to the Khao San Road) than this holiday - but I don't think that's such a bad thing. Luxury is so much more comfortable.

Not sure where we're staying in Phuket: there's a fair bit of travelling around in this trip, and we're still on the 'Bangkok' bit of the guide book. Will have a look and let you know, though. We'll be there for the Chinese New Year, on (I think) the 22nd. Arrived in time for one New Year, leaving just after another. Makes it feel a bit like 'time out of time', which is always nice.

Sex workers relaxing when you're with a partner: hmmm, maybe. Not sure it works that way with the male-male thing, though. We had the opportunity to find out last night, when, fortified by a few hours' siesta and some more champagne (drunken on the pretext that it was taking up important space in the mini-bar) we went in search of Sukhumvit's answer to Mother Molly's Clap House...

It went by the rather curious name of 'Inter Moustache', apparently because the guy in charge has a moustache (most Thai men, unlike 'sporting' Indian males, seem relatively hairless). Spartacus described it as a sort of pub-cum-dance bar-cum-karaoke place, and we naively reckoned it might be a reasonable place to buy a beer without the 'hostess' shenanigans of 'Bangkockney'.

Uh, wrong.

From the moment we stepped over the threshold, we got the distinct impression that we were in a Coppola film. A tiny vestibule, all red velvet, low lighting, statuettes of Michaelangelo's Adam and seven or eight attractive Thai boys lounging around languidly, watching cable TV. Basically, the first impression was of an old-style bordello - the Best Little Whorehouse in Bangkok. Our initial 'uh oh' feeling was compounded when an extremely handsome Thai boy directed us to a sort of fenced-off area, took our order for two beers and sat down extreeemely close to me to make conversation.

Excrutiating conversation, despite the fact that he was very very good-looking and quite charming - because the place's purpose was screamingly obvious. He tried his best to put us at our ease and ('saving face' being very important in Thailand) we did our best to make non-committal smalltalk. He explained that there were around 40 boys in the establishment, that they put on shows earlier in the evening but, by this time of night, many of them had been 'sent out' to various locations throughout the city. We were given cards with a phone number and told that we too could have a boy sent to our hotel...

So... we grinned fixedly, sweated and finished up our drinks as quickly as seemed polite, making excuses about jet-lag and having to get back to the hotel to sleep - but hey, we'd come back sometime earlier the next evening. And then we left.

It was a weird, weird experience. There didn't seem to be obvious exploitation going on (and male 'go-go bars' are apparently far less exploitative than their female equivalent) and we must've come over as extremely uptight and anxious (at one point, our host reassured us that this area was 'just for talk'). It mainly felt like there were certain expectations of us as rich white Westerners who had wandered through the door - and we were being something of a disappointment.

Hmmm...
 
 
gingerbop
21:27 / 02.01.04
How is Phuket pronounced?
 
 
Ganesh
02:26 / 03.01.04
With a hard 'p' - as in 'penis' or 'pederasty'. But yeah, I think everyone titters the first time they read it.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
02:48 / 03.01.04
He's just making all this up. We've actually just drawn the curtains shut, stocked up on lots of Tesco Thai meals, told everybody we were going away and rented a tanning bed. I mean, that story about the brothel was clearly just sick fantasy drawn from a Grahame Greene novel.

We got the idea from an episode of To The Manor Born where Penelope Keith did the same (pretended to go on holiday I mean, not visit a Thai boys' bordello).
 
 
Ganesh
03:01 / 03.01.04
Didn't you see the famous 'ladyboy' episode?
 
 
Ariadne
09:22 / 03.01.04
So when I was on your flat the other day, you were hiding behind the washing machine with the cat? Might have known.
 
 
Cherry Bomb
10:11 / 03.01.04
*I* am Ganesh!!

Heh. Just kidding.

On the flat, ariadne?

/pedantry
 
 
Ariadne
18:56 / 03.01.04
I did a lot of climbing, looking for stray cats.
 
 
Sax
13:33 / 09.01.04
Getting worried now.

Do you think Ganesh and Xoc have:

A) Been given a ragged map to a strange island and are currently living out a Lord of the Flies-esque nightmare among a disparate community of travellers?

B) Been given drugged tea and are now living out a miserable existence as the MacLadyBoys, performing in kilts and ginger wigs for the benefit of sex tourists in Pat Pong?

C) Won 3,000,000 baht on the Thai Lottery and opened a Scottish restaurant selling deep-fried Mars Bars to backpackers?
 
 
sleazenation
18:44 / 09.01.04
Well, they did say it was a lazyholiday blog...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
06:10 / 11.01.04
The Khmer Rouge have been forcing us to march up and down ancient, crumbly stone temple staircases in the jungle for the past week and then we went sailing (with some local pirates) on Tonlé Sap, biiggg inland sea. But you have been in my thoughts every minute of every day, lovely Sax. Why I should be thinking of you sitting watching tv naked but for your new parkha while I'm surrounded by so much delectable Cambodian tottie I couldn't say but maybe I will find another stimulus when I hit the beach in Krabi later this afternoon.

Sohk sabaay?
 
 
Ganesh
06:12 / 11.01.04
MacLadyBoys, eh? Why does that make me think of splayed-but-golden arches?

Nah, in addition to the sheer laziness thang, we've spent the last week or so going round every bloody wat and temple in a) Bangkok, and b) Angkor, Cambodia. We're templed out. Watted.

All very good for one's karmic "credit" I'm sure, but hard on the legs (all those steps - what was the Angkorian Empire thinking?) and we're both ready for a few days of doing fuck-all somewhere sunny and massaged. Luckily, I'm writing from Bangkok Airport, where we're due to catch a flight to Krabi in the next hour or so. Indolent bliss. I'm sure a day or two will have us both running to the nearest cyberemporium...
 
 
No star here laces
04:26 / 12.01.04
If you're going back to Bangkok at any point and have some readies, I have some recommendations for ya...

Basically I go there for work now and then, and have had to ask locals I work with to find fun bars which are not brothels. If you ask taxi drivers/hotel staff/people on the street they invariably seem to assume that you are after paid-for sex and direct you accordingly.

So... Bed Supperclub is kind of fun, though apparently it's passe by Bangkok standards (Bangkok has an even shorter attention span for trendy bars than London, it seems...). It's just off Sukhumvit (lor 11, I think). It's like a big white tube on legs and has good food and bar type stuff. There's another place near there called Q bar that is supposed to be good too. My client also recommended a place called 'Booze' but I've never been there...

There's an amazing restaurant called 'Eat Me' on Convent Road, near PatPong which has kind of thai/western fusion and exhibits of local art on the walls.

Hotel-wise, if you want to splash out, the Sukhothai is amazingly luxurious, and you're unlikely to be able to afford a hotel this bling in any other country.

More affordable, and with slightly better interior decor (and great bathrooms) is Triple Two Silom on Silom Road, near PatPong.

And if you're there at the weekend, you have to go to Chatuchak market, which is like the hugest market you've ever seen, selling everything from Teak furniture, to fighting cockerels, to antique buddhas, to fake Levis to incredibly cool t-shirts made by local thai designers.
 
 
Olulabelle
08:55 / 12.01.04
Ooooh, oooh, if you're in Krabi, go to Rai Lay beach (you have to get a boat from either Krabi or Ao Nang) and say hello to my friend Suzanne who lives there. She works in Krabi town, teaching at the school and she lives on Rai Lay beach and has done for three years. Just ask for her in the coffee shop on Rai Lay.

Also, go to Phranang Cave Beach on the Rai Lay peninsular as it is quite possibly the most beautiful beach in Thailand, and go and give a gift to the Princess goddess in the Diamond cave there.

And don't forget to look at Chicken Rock.
 
 
Sax
10:58 / 13.01.04
Bangkok, Krabi, Phuket... if Thailand didn't exist, Frankie Howerd would have had to have invented it.
 
 
Sax
17:21 / 26.01.04
You back yet?

(I know, I know, I'm obsessing over this slightly. Need a holiday).
 
  
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