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America's perception of the UK

 
 
sleazenation
08:51 / 17.12.03
Flipside of the UK perception of America thread

As a person, culture and/or governement, how do Americans view the UK?
 
 
Jack Denfeld
09:24 / 17.12.03
I think the UK is way better at doing headbutts than Americans. I've got this soccer video and the headbutts are vicious looking, whereas in the United States I've seen lots of fights and not one headbutt thrown intentionally.
 
 
ibis the being
13:25 / 17.12.03
In the part of Boston where I live there are a lot of Irish, and consequently I've observed a huge sort of collective Boston American crush on the Irish. Particularly American girls...

I was friends with a bunch of Irish boys during the summer and spent quite a bit of time at their house. I saw American girls, picked up at the bar, come drifting in & out, all moony-eyed, as if on clouds... one very funny example of the crush was when a drunk girl visiting for the evening pronounced "[blah blah blah]... I hate England." The boy replied, "What? Why do you hate England?" She stammered, "Well. We hate England, right?" It's a common assumption - I suspect a confused assumption that all Irish are from Northern Ireland - even though this particular boy was from Galway.... Also has to do with how Americans, particularly in Boston, if they're of Irish descent will say "I'm Irish," which is always amusing and often irritating to the actual Irish when they hear that around here.

For my part, when I was friends with those boys and meeting several of their friends, my overwhelming impression of Irish people was that they were so much more well-traveled than most Americans I know (certainly including myself). And they'd almost always ask me if I've been to Europe, and if so where, and where else I'd been, to which my answers were rather embarrassing.
 
 
diz
16:26 / 17.12.03
as an American of Irish descent from the Northeast, i completely know what you're talking about ibis.

as far as the moon-eyed crushes go, pretty much anyone who's reasonably attractive and has any variety of accent from anywhere in the British Isles can get laid with it in the US. guaranteed.

i think it speaks to the general perception of people from the UK and Ireland (which very much seem to tend to get lumped together, outside of the weird perception of Irish/English hatred which ibis mentioned) as non-threatening outsiders, friendly and familiar enough to be safe but still having the appealing whiff of foreign-ness.

i think most young people in America tend to think of people in the UK as being sort of witty, urbane, perhaps a bit bookish and intellectual, and a bit more cool/sophisticated than the average bear. this sort of replaces the older stereotypes common in the US of the British as snooty, uptight, boring, and repressed, though that's still common enough to be recognizable as a common comedy trope.

basically, the new image of young Britain to America is somewhere between Hugh Grant, Ewan McGregor, and Spike from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, whereas the old one is very much well-dressed, haughty Victorians in the drawing room talking about Shakespeare and looking down on someone whose shoes are a bit scuffed and fainting when someone makes an off-color remark.

as far as foreign policy goes, the UK is pretty much seen by most as America's closest ally and best friend in the whole entire world, sort of an oasis in a semi-hostile world, not as arrogant, decadent, pretentious, and insufferable as the French and the rest of Western Europe, not as alien as the more developed parts of Asia, and not as barbaric and underdeveloped as the rest of the world.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
19:52 / 17.12.03
Dr. Who and David Bowie... which is odd because in actuality it's League of Gentlemen and Mark E. Smith.
 
 
w1rebaby
20:15 / 17.12.03
1. No, London is not that foggy. Jack The Ripper films are not really terribly good sources. (I can't tell you how many times I've had that one.)

2. No, we do not celebrate Thanksgiving in England.

3. Actually, Keeping Up Appearances is not considered all that funny.
 
 
Mister Six, whom all the girls
12:11 / 18.12.03
I DID get to have XMas puding while in Cambridge... It's still with me... The doctors say they'll be able to get it out in about another year. A good friend of mine visited London a ways back and complained about the food. This killed me. I LOVED the food. I cooked almost every day and was delighted to see that places like Sainsbury's sold bread and the like in small portions so that you could actually use what you bought and not waste as much as American portions.

Shit... I got really fat in England. Drank every day in a pub across from Anabelle's where I worked. I miss all that. Think I'll get drunk today around 4 for no reason and see how it goes.
 
  
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