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Harvey Pekar: American Splendor

 
 
sleazenation
12:03 / 13.12.03
This thread really spans the gap between comics and films, What with the iminent release in the UK of American Splendor the movie (not sure when it came out in the states) I figured now would be a good time to talk about Pekar's work here.

So what do people think of Pekar's work? How many have read it? And did anyone come to it through the the movie?

Harvey's homepage is here

listen to Pekar being interviewed on radio 5live
 
 
Krug
14:52 / 13.12.03
I heard about Pekar when I was reading Come in Alone a few years ago but never really looked into his work. The movie's release gave me an excuse to check out the comics.

I found out that his work did nothing for me.

Maybe this thread will explain what I'm not getting.
 
 
■
15:28 / 13.12.03
I think his work is so idiosynractic that you either like it or you don't. He's just a unique old curmudgeon who occasionally hits the nail on the head. I think he's great, but I can see why other people don't.
 
 
grant
16:05 / 13.12.03
Rules for reading Pekar:

1. It must Sunday afternoon, or at least *feel* like Sunday afternoon.
2. You must have nothing better to do; for instance, visiting a friend in another town, you have no car, the friend must go run an errand leaving you alone for an hour or two.
3. You must read a quantity - generally half a TPB collection - before hearing an audible "click."
4. A background in either Zen Buddhism or record collecting (jazz preferred) is useful, but not necessary.

It takes a while to figure out what he's getting at... a little like overhearing opinionated conversations in a busy diner. But once it's there, it's really there.
 
 
Krug
04:53 / 14.12.03
Grant: I just didn't see the actual point of his stories. To me it just smelled of mediocrity and just fell way below expectation. I do want more out of a reading experience. Was also put off by this aura of selfconcious that the book looked at me with. I will admit that it is definitely a matter of taste.

I sampled stories from a later book just to be sure if I wasn't being a fool but by the end of the experience I was just glad God invented libraries.

Will pay close attention to this thread.
 
 
sleazenation
10:17 / 14.12.03
I agree with grant that Pekar's stuff works best when enountered in larger collections - I picked up a few issues of the comic but didn't really click with it until i read Our Cancer Year - the fact that the story had a unified structure undoubtedly helps though.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:08 / 29.11.04
I've been curious about his new upcoming book, OUR MOVIE YEAR. I always like reading about behind-the-scenes Hollywood stuff, and I think Harvey Pekar's take on such would be especially fun.

His website, linked above, has a thing where you can illustrate a story of Harvey's! They also have two 'winners' thus far. Good stuff.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
10:59 / 30.11.04
was a big pekar fan years ago. occasionally return to his stuff. actively put off by larger volumes - recommend searching out the first 15 issues of AS - large format, newsprint, absolutely brilliant artwork - go find.
 
 
Janean Patience
11:09 / 07.02.07
There's a new series of American Splendor coming out from Vertigo now. Sales, I guess, will be very low. Some movies, books and art have a cult following because nobody's discovered them yet. Other stuff has a cult following because it isn't, and never will be, for everybody. Harvey Pekar's definitely in the latter category. In attempting to start a discussion on him here, it's important that be kept in mind. He's a minority taste like lime-and-liquorice tablets. if you don't like him, it will be almost impossible to see why others do.

Two of grant's rules:

2. You must have nothing better to do; for instance, visiting a friend in another town, you have no car, the friend must go run an errand leaving you alone for an hour or two.
3. You must read a quantity - generally half a TPB collection - before hearing an audible "click."


describe with uncanny accuracy my introduction to the work of Pekar. It was the first big collection, bought just before the movie came out. The friend had gone to the gym. I was reading it, not enjoying it, putting it down and picking it up because there was nothing else to do. Harvey was standing around in the park, musing about getting older in a short story devoid of any action or visual interest, and click. That was it. The first hundred pages of Harvery I read I wondered why he never did anything. I've read probably a thousand pages since just to see what he doesn't do next.

There are short stories where Harvey goes to the market and buys fruit, or drives to the airport early. I've read at least two where he has a dull day at work when everyone else is at home. Waiting for a plane, anticipating a package, going for an appointment of any kind fills him with anxiety. His stories are about nothing, the tinest events and commonplaces and disappointments, and yet they capture something nothing else I've read ever has. Part of it is Harvey himself, a unique character, and the world he surrounds himself with. Part of it's what he sees, the stories he finds himself in or attracted to.

FinderWolf: I've been curious about his new upcoming book, OUR MOVIE YEAR. I always like reading about behind-the-scenes Hollywood stuff, and I think Harvey Pekar's take on such would be especially fun.

It was disappointing, a load of different pieces including a set of two-pagers on jazz musicians thrown together into a book. All the stories about Harvey's anxiety over the movie premiere and the power cuts on its first night were good, there were CD inlays and party invites and magazine covers done in the Splendor style, and the final eponymous story about the world tour Harvey and family take off the back of the film is good, but otherwise it was too random.The Quitter, the recent "secret origin of Harvey Pekar" OGN from Vertigo, is one of his first works to leave me cold. I could just be out of the Pekar groove, though. And I'm waiting for the trade on the current mini, where Harvey gets to work with a higher quality of artists than ever before.

Anyone else got the Harvey habit?
 
 
Janean Patience
10:35 / 08.06.07
To answer my own question? It would seem nobody on here cares for Harv. Which is a shame, because he's a unique voice in comics as he would be in any media.

The new collection of the Vertigo series, Another Day, is an extremely accessible slice of his life. It mixes stories from his youth, family arguments, worries about money and just plain compulsive worrying and has great art by Eddie Campbell, Ty Templeton, and Pekar's new regular collaborator Dean Haspiel among others. I love Harvey and it was a pleasure and a joy to read stretched out on the grass using the book to shade my eyes from the son. If you've never read any of his work then I implore you to try this.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:30 / 08.06.07
I have actually pretty much always dug Harvey's stuff. Sometimes it can get a bit one-note but it's pretty consistently fun and entertaining. And Dean's art is always a blast to see!
 
 
Janean Patience
07:54 / 11.06.07
Has anyone read any of the non-Harvey Splendor? There's one called Ego & Hubris about a guy called Michael Malice and another about someone's Vietnam experiences. I've avoided them because I can't imagine the Pekar magic working with another subject. He's not exactly a groundbreaking storyteller. It's the synergy of his affectless style and the undocumented little moments he chooses to write about that gets me. Writing someone else's story, something with drama and excitement, the style would become a barrier. Or so I imagine.
 
 
misterdomino.org
18:29 / 11.06.07
He's done a lot for the medium of comics itself, in helping people see that there is more to comics than just superheroes. It's been fine for novelists to wax about the philosophy of everyday living for centuries now. Sartre's Nausea, on the surface level, has the same (non) appeal, for instance. There's something beautiful about watching Harvey worry about mundane parts of his life on the way to the market, and resolving the whole strip by enjoying the thought of freshly baked bread. As grant said, Harvey can be very Zen. It's like he's shattered our notions of what comics should be with a very dull, boring hammer.
 
 
Mistoffelees
17:41 / 12.07.10
Famed underground comic scribe Harvey Pekar dead at 70

Weird coincidence, just yesterday I looked up American Splendor on wiki, somehow going from the Happiness to the AS entry.
 
  
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