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WANTED #1

 
 
KwendeCentral
11:01 / 12.12.03
So I copped it.

Fact is J.G. Jones' work doesn't look nearly as good as did in Marvel Boy. Pencils aren't nearly as tight. That was the 1st thing I noticed.

The script is popping, almost to the point of being corny though. Everything is in "millarcoolspeak". Every sentance, if not exposition, seems to be punchline. The charachters do draw you in though, and I already love the professor.

I see what he's setting up, and I can't deny my interest. He's giving his charachter a real life upgrade. He'll learn about the secret society, and his abilities, participate in them for six months, then be left with the option to return to his regular life.

Show him the mechanics of the world, then see if he's satisfied just being a cog.

Anyone else get this?
 
 
uncle retrospective
12:12 / 12.12.03
Ah, violence, a book where swearing is both big and clever. What's not to like? I'll have to re read it to get a more in depth opinion though.
 
 
FinderWolf
16:40 / 12.12.03
This was decent, I think Jones' art still looked great, but I do see the slight decrease in quality as compared to MARVEL BOY and BLACK WIDOW. I agree with you about the supercool Millarspeak - but I want to give this one another issue or so to see where it goes.

"Fuckwit"/Bizarro was hysterical.
 
 
Mike-O
18:46 / 12.12.03
Six issue series, so yeah I guess it's a bit early to tell... You know, I can't say I didn't like it, 'cause yeah it was entertaining and the art was well done to be sure (though no where near as nice on MB, agreed). But I don't know... I just really can't bring myself to care about where this story is going, so... Bagh, I like Millar when he's "on", but maybe it's more than that.. maybe he has to be writing characters I actually give a shit about, you know? Not to say I could've care less about the Avengers per-Ultimates, but... I don't know. I just wasn't really drawn in, I guess.
 
 
Ganesh
05:11 / 13.12.03
I bought it on the promise of the moustachioed leather-daddy on the cover, and was disappointed when a dressing-gowned Killer copped it early on...
 
 
bigsunnydavros
11:49 / 15.12.03
I think Paul O'Brien's review of this issue is pretty on the money.

Says he:

“In other words, it's a Mark Millar version of "One day my real parents will take me away and I'll become a princess." But because it's Millar, Wesley gets to be a gun-toting leatherclad psycho instead. Something that he doesn't seem altogether happy about, it must be said.”

First things first: while I know that all such slogans should be taken with more than a pinch of salt, "Watchmen for super-villains" it ain't. I didn't expect it to be in any way shape or form, and there's still the majority of the series to go, and I'll be nicely surprised if Millar and Jones manage to disassemble the power structures behind the idea of super-villains like Moore and Gibbons did with their more heroic counterparts way back when, but still... I don’t see it working out that way, not based on what we’ve seen so far.

I find Millar's violent, schlocky excesses to be mildly out of place most of the time, to be honest with. I feel like he often goes for shock value, and ends up with something that is just plain boring instead (see his last Authority arc, which wasn't crap purely because it was "toned down" and edited, but because it was a really shitty, clichéd superhero story dressed up with a couple of shabby "extreme" touches). But still, he can be an entertaining writer when he’s on form – I love his first Authority arc, his first Ultimates arc, and various bits of his Ultimate X-Men run. It’s OTT trash, but I’ve got a lot of time for that…

Wanted is, of course, the pure distillation of Millar’s excesses, and I’d say that this works better in this context (i.e. within the realms of a creator owned comic book about a load of nasty of super-villains) than it has in any of his previous superhero work, and is pretty entertaining as a whole.

It doesn’t look like it’s going to have much bight or complexity to it so far, but I think O’Brien is on to something when he points out that J.G. Jones' art gives the whole thing a slightly deadpan feel; ideally, I reckon this would be like the Kill Bill or superhero comics – a really silly, bombastic exercise in style, violence and black humour presented in a fairly straight-faced way. I know, I know – I said I’d be pleasantly surprised if this did turn out to be “Watchmen for super-villains”, but I think that it is far more likely that Millar could write something brilliantly silly in the Kill Bill vain than it is that he could create something anywhere near as big and clever as Watchmen.

So far, Wanted hasn’t really hit the level of masterful absurdity of Tarantino’s latest movie. There are too many clunky bits (such as the whole Fuckwit section; I’m with O’Brien on this one - it was a crap excuse for a joke) for me to really love it, but I’ll check out the next issue to see how it develops.

I’m interested enough to see how Wesley handles all of this to read on at least a little more, which is a good sign, and so far I’d say that a more fitting description of this book would be “a superhero comic for people who like to play Grand Theft Auto with all the cheats on.”

This isn’t an outright condemnation, by the way – just an observation of the drive of this particular power fantasy. It could be an interesting ride, depending on how Millar chooses to engage with the situation his character finds himself in (if he does so at all) - there's potential for a simple play on the old "power and responsibilty" theme amidst the silliness, and I'm hoping that it isn't squandered.
 
 
bigsunnydavros
11:51 / 15.12.03
And yeah - Jones' artwork was better on Marvel Boy (at least in part because he was drawing so much rediculous, eye-popping stuff), but I'd say that it is effective here in a slightly different way, as mentioned above.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:33 / 16.12.03
Since WATCHMEN is a real masterpiece and one of the seminal works of the last 20 years, it seems awfully cheap hype to say this book is in any way comparable to WATCHMEN. Just wanted to get that right out there. Millar is nowhere near the category or class of Moore as a writer.
 
 
Mr Tricks
16:42 / 16.12.03
Yeah it was rather Blaaa...

Jone's art reminded me a bit of Chris Weston at some points, particularly the bit where what'shisface shoots at the flys.

Beyond that it was very much like most of the indulgant aspects of Kill Bill with-out the soundtrack.

Maybe I'll buy the collected TPB when it's on sale...

Millar's looking very much like a shadow of his earlier work.
 
 
Haus of Mystery
20:43 / 16.12.03
I quite liked it, but with reference to the 'fuckwit' moment, I'm really bored of writer's referencing classic characters or contnuity in their 'daring' new books. Fuck it MOVE ON! It just cheapens stuff to have continual post-modern references for us all to snigger at. I thought Millar was doing a fairly creditable job of creating a believable world, but all the recognisable villains just jolted me out of it. Top Ten was fun 'spot-the-hero' stuff, but this was naff. That aside no major gripes. I'm sure Millar'll blow it though - he usually does.
 
 
FinderWolf
15:46 / 06.02.04
#2 is out. Seems very "eeeeeh". I bought the first one, wasn't too impressed, read the second one in the store. Was glad I saved the money. What did others think?
 
 
KwendeCentral
17:49 / 06.02.04
I'm equally tepid about #2. It ended with me saying "So what"? And not "So what. I wonder what'll happen next". Just "So what?"

Now The Unfunnies....that's good comix.
 
 
CameronStewart
22:46 / 06.02.04
Surely you jest.
 
 
KwendeCentral
22:13 / 08.02.04
What about the Unfunnies??

I acutally see myself enjoying that more than I will any of these other Millarworld project, except for Run. It's the real hoo-ha if you ask me. Genuinely creepy, twisted comix. Who is this mystery internet friend? Why is he in the real world while the rest are cartoons? How did he start trading hardcore jpegs with little crows, and why does Frosty Pete see...who I assume to be said net-buddy when he's unloading in Birdseed Betty's face?

All this i'm interested in. Whatshiseminemface...not so interested. These are just my tastes. I am as God made me.

I feel a post brewing....
 
 
CameronStewart
00:50 / 09.02.04
>>>I acutally see myself enjoying that more than I will any of these other Millarworld project, except for Run.<<<

....which according to Millar has apparently been put on indefinite hiatus/cancelled, because Ashley Wood has not produced any artwork and isn't returning phonecalls.
 
 
_Boboss
08:55 / 09.02.04
unfunnies was alright - forgettable, cheesy and annoying all the way through, art and story combining nicely to make you bored and a bit ill feeling, something a bit weird and compulsive about it. then the final page sends a proper little blair witch shudder down my back and i realise this comic has been playing me pretty well. hell of a wasted opportunity to use the word 'prag' though. anyone ever seen 'prag' in a comic before? no, me neither, and yet here it would have fit so well. oh well.

wanted number two though, wow superman is now just a forgotten cripple in a wheelchair. hey mark, that idea's a tired old bag of shit, and a really fucking pointless signpost as to where the series is going. the cliches seemed to pile in so quickly - oh, it might not be the rictus guy who killed his dad, but the 'kindly' professor you say? wow, that's different. and there's almost a smell of desperation about the book, as if it has just been designed for eminemanemone to see and hassle dre into putting up the money for a movie of. this whole 'verse isn't millar trying to stretch comics, it's him trying to get out of them.
 
 
Bed Head
11:07 / 09.02.04
Well, hey, I like the art. I think I even prefer this to his Marvel Boy work, maybe because there isn’t so much fiddly perfect detail, it’s kind of broad and bold and strong and stuff like that. Compared to Marvel Boy, there isn’t so much to see the second time round, but it flows way better on the first reading, if that makes any sense.

Yeah, the script is offensively bad, I‘m not really sure now why I thought it might be better. Although it’s astonishing, seeing as how it’s Millar and all, that he actually switched off his patented Millarscript-generator for a second, and had The Professor hoarding Superman’s cape as a trophy, instead of his pants. Because I bet that would have been his first thought. Perhaps he’s got one eye on selling the film rights.

But, I really like the art.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
18:44 / 10.02.04
I usualy enjoy Millar's work but I guess Marvel [or lack of a good writing partner] has spoiled him a bit, in the sense that his work has not about good ideas done cleverly anymore - but relies solely on "cool" one-liners and quick shockers for "growing" superhero fans.

I wanted to like WANTED, but it sounded so FILTH-lite to me. ok, only one issue yet but it has a lot of annoying little bits. Jones' art didn't help either; there's even some inconsistency regarding Wesley: he doesn't wear earings as far as I could tell [unless I was misguided by reading it late in the night] but in the "posse" scene based on a 8 MILE still [and only then] he *does* wears earings...

I have UNFUNNIES waiting for me here and I'll see if my faith in the guy has not altogether faded.
 
 
chucklehound
00:51 / 11.02.04
i'm aware that defending millar with my very first post here might be ill-advised, but here goes.

i've been reading "wanted" as a defense/apology of late 80's/early 90's comics, or at least an attempt to try to pin down what the appeal was of the dark age anti-hero. given that wanted establishes '86 as the year when the heroes are killed, i'm assuming this is supposed to indicate the publish date of watchmen/dark knight, and the point at which superheroes started being able to kill people with impunity, dress in skintight leather, etc.

the wish-fullfillment aspect of the story that others have mentioned is, i think, an attempt to portray the appeal of the post-moore/miller hero as more of a supressed rage outlet instead of as a "throwing off of shackles of tradition"/"tearing down of heros" not sure if that's really a great argument, but at least it's a little more in-depth than waid's "it's what the public wants" explanation for why comics took the turn they did. i'm hoping this will become a little more clear as the series progresses.

of course, he's got four more issues to either make this point or mess it up entirely. at worst, we're going to end up with another "recovery" of pre-dark age superheroism (a la mark waid's stuff) and, no matter what, there's going to be lots and lots of millar-cool-speak.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:00 / 11.02.04
Welcome, chucklehound!! You've got a great username. And hey, we'll see if Millar follows the kind of progression you're getting at in the rest of WANTED.
 
  
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