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Tech: Dvd burners...

 
 
Krug
02:58 / 05.12.03
I'm sorry but I can't seem to find a place to ask such a question so decided to post here.

I'm interested in buying a dvd burner since they're cheaper now. I've been told you can copy dvds with a burner and it takes upto half an hour. Taking a look through a few websites I hear the terms dvdr+, dvdr-.
I have no idea what all this is.

I need to know what that means and if dvd burners can copy original dvds and what their limitations are.

Thanks.
 
 
fluid_state
03:19 / 06.12.03

I have a Pioneer LG DVD burning something. (I don't know the exact model)... I have successfully copied movie DVD's with the bundled Nero software. According to some sites, movie DVDs can have copy protection, requiring use of special software; I have no idea of the veracity of these claims. takes my 4x burner about 30-40 mins to do a 4GB disc (4.8 GB being your limit for data).

DVD+ and DVD- are different information-layering technologies, IIRC. try burnworld for info.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
08:50 / 06.12.03
Yeah , +R and -R are two different recording formats, neither of which has yet been accepted as the industry standard. +R is the technically superior format, but many more standalone DVD players play the -R format. If you're unsure about what you need, you could plump for a dual format drive, which will record in either format, depending upon which type of blank you put in the drive.

As far as copying original DVDs (I assume you mean movies) goes, there are a few technical stumbling blocks, neither of which are insurmountable. Your first limitation is the capacity of the DVD; there are two types of DVDs out there that movies are recorded on - you've got DVD5 and DVD9 (the number represents the approximate capacity of the disc in Gb), otherwise known as single layeer and dual layer discs.

Most movies are pressed onto DVD9s, which is how they end up squeezing so many audio tracks, added features and subtitles onto a single disc. That's the problem - currently all blank DVDs are DVD5s, which leaves you with a couple of options:

* Only record the main movie, selectively leaving out menus, extras, etc..

* Record the whole DVD (including menus, extras, etc..), but compress the video, losing some quality in the process. It's a trade-off, depending on where your priorities lie.

Your next problem is that DVDs are encrypted, using a system called CSS (content Scrambling System). This prevents you doing a simple DVD to DVD copy. It's not a very powerful encryption system, though, and is easily broken.

DVD Shrink is an excellent, totally free bit of software that allows you to do all of the above in a relatively intuitive fashion. You'll also need some suitable burning software, but I'm sure some will come bundled with whichever recorder you purchase.

N.B. Think very carefully before paying for any software that claims to do similar things to DVD Shrink; there are many people out there selling repackaged DVD Shrink as their own product.

Hope this helps.
 
 
nedrichards is confused
09:56 / 06.12.03
sidenote: DeCSS (the software that breaks the CSS encryption mentioned above) has an interesting history, check out this site for more info.
 
 
Krug
14:54 / 12.12.03
Thanks guys.
 
 
fluid_state
02:01 / 13.12.03
Actually, I have a question. Does anyone have any experience ripping DVD's? I'm looking to convert a few of my DVDs to avi/mpg files, and I'd like some recommendations on effective software. Sorry, but there's just too many programs out there for me to do the testing process in what little time I have (I'm looking to put a few movies on my laptop for a quick trip). TIA.
 
 
espy
03:00 / 13.12.03
solid state, try looking at www.doom9.net. In the guides section, it has mostly how to do anything with video files. There's one section in the guides section called "Ripping - How to copy the files on a DVD to your harddisk." and it has three guides for it. Any of those three should be good. Happy ripping...
 
 
Sleeperservice
09:34 / 13.12.03
For DVD to AVI I use Gordian Knot... http://gordianknot.sourceforge.net/ This can be a bit(!) intimidating if you've never done this sort of thing before, however. The writer of that has done a simplified version called AutoGK to simplify things (same link) but I havn't tried that as GK does what I want. Word of warning. Converting to AVI using something like the XVid or DIVX codecs can take ages. I have an Athlon 2800 and if you use the higher quality settings on divx it can literrally take *days* to encode a film. With lesser, but still very acceptable, settings you're looking at 6-8 hours or so.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
21:55 / 13.12.03
Gordian Knot's good.

For mpg, I highly recommend DVD2SVCD. It's free, but doesn't come with the requisite encoding software, but there are plenty of places to obtain those.

Again, there are tutorials and tips on DVD2SVCD available on doom9.

Personally, I much prefer mpg (or SVCD) as, properly encoded, these are playable on most standalone DVD players and offer excellent quality.
 
  
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