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Ganesh
19:55 / 19.11.01
One of the other threads (comparing orthodox medicine/psychiatric techniques to magickal ones) got me thinking about the role of clothing: uniforms, robes, ceremonial vestments, whatever.

Wearing black is supposed to make one appear more charismatic/authoritarian; when I wear black, Alzheimery patients mistake me for a priest (and seem, accordingly, to relax into 'confession'). There's a well-recognised 'white coat reaction' whereby the autonomic nervous system (sweating, heartrate. blood pressure) speeds up, confounding some clinical tests. Martin Bell will always be remembered as the 'man in the white suit'.

Questions:

1) What role does clothing play in your own magickal rituals? Do you wear specific colours or outfits to create particular moods?

aaand, on a tangentially-related (and not intentionally anti-Semitic) point

2) Why are rabbis' religious garments so unprepossessing? I mean, Catholics have their lovely frocks, bells & smells, Buddhists look great in saffron - even Scottish Calvinists pass muster in basic black. But rabbis? I'm sorry; on a bad day, they come across as fatbeards trying to look like the Phantom Stranger (or whoever). Even Boy George couldn't carry off the look. What's that about?

Serious or stupid question: the choice is yours...
 
 
grant
02:19 / 20.11.01
On question 2, the rabbis I've seen during actual services are definitely set apart - satin, embroidered yarmulkes and rather ornate prayer shawls at the *very least*. Not quite as elaborate as Catholic vestments, but still quite clearly not one of the congregation. It's also worth noting that rabbis are also only provisionally priests; in Judaism, that's the role of the tribe of Levi (thus, Book of Leviticus) who are charged with maintaining burnt sacrifices in the Temple of the Covenant in Jerusalem. The Romans pretty much wiped that business out in 70 AD, and everything that we associate with the ritual functions of Judaism has sprung up after that. Rabbis are really just "teachers," that is, religious scholars, who offer prayers in synagogue, but aren't really exercising the direct intercession with Y-H-W-H that the priesthood used to.
And will again, once the Messianic prophecies are fulfilled (the bit about the red heifer being born in the Holy Land and the re-establishment of the Temple.)
One of the things I really like about Judaism in its current form is that the real religious rituals happen at home - Shabbat meals, the Seder, that sort of thing. Very autonomous/anarchistic.

And for #1., well, yes and no.
I do find the clothing I wear -especially colors or slogans (more specifically, the absence thereof)- has an effect on my bearing in a magical kind of way, yeah. But the most common form of "magick" I practice is the semi-regular tai chi class, during which I wear whatever I wore to work, as long as it's loose and comfortable. This, I find, is also sort of freeing.
I do have a little necklace with a likeness of an African river god on it (bit of a cheesy souvenir, I'm afraid) that I kind of regard as a lucky/powerful object, but not so much that I won't take it off from time to time.
I imagine if I was working on something that I deemed "important" or "difficult" (I'm not sure why the quote marks seem necessary, but they do), I'd dress for the job - get all my symbols in a row, as it were. But so much of my worldview in this realm comes out of taking everyday stuff and seeing what you can do with it, that I like the idea of simply being comfortable in whatever you've got on and using that in its own merits. (With the caveat that I avoid brand name items and designer logos whenever possible, so all the clothes I'm likely to be wearing are semiotically pure, rather than borrowing associations from major multinationals.)
 
 
cusm
12:52 / 20.11.01
Hassidics adhere to a strict code of fashion. However, that is more an effort to preserve "the way things were" than to give a specific effect. Are you perhaps thinking of the hardline traditional sect of Judiasm? They are hard to miss in a crowd. There are strict rules of dress, down to the length of skirts, etc.

It is rather like the modern habit of catholic nuns. They started wearing them originally because it was the fashion of the time. They still wear them because tradition demands they not change, not because they mean something. Of course, NOW they mean something, as association has built on the dress. You just can't wear a habit any more without someone thinking you a nun, afterall.
 
 
Ganesh
12:59 / 20.11.01
Hmm, maybe I have just seen rabbis in their civvies. Apologies to all well-dressed Hassidics out there.
 
 
Naked Flame
12:59 / 20.11.01
In answer to 1, nudity usually works for me... 'course, there are situations where it's not too practical, so then I bear in mind the wise words of Sam the American Eagle- 'underneath our clothes, we are all naked: even the animals, beneath their fur, are running around stark naked! Even the birds.... uh... could someone pass me a towel?'

Edit- crossdressing seems to be a great way to get my magical head on, but I just don't have the legs for it.

[ 20-11-2001: Message edited by: Flame On ]
 
 
Lothar Tuppan
15:15 / 20.11.01
quote:Originally posted by Ganesh:

Questions:

1) What role does clothing play in your own magickal rituals? Do you wear specific colours or outfits to create particular moods?



I use clothing and/or other accessories for three reasons:

1) For a psychological effect either for myself or someone else's benefit. The psychological 'invoking' of my magical or shamanic self.

2) For a sympathetic connection with spirits or forces that I need to work with. Since I work with different spirits depending on what the purpose of the session is I would wear/use different things depending on the purpose.

3) If I am taking part in a traditional ceremony or working within a traditional style I wear appropriate clothing to show respect for the tradition as well as for the people, and the spirits of that tradition.

While number three is similar to number one it's less about psychologically preparing myself and others and more about showing the proper respect.
 
 
Rev. Jesse
16:20 / 20.11.01
Mostly, I were black, its slimming, fitting for my profession and hides the virgin's blood fairly well.

But, I do have a very cool jacket that has been pyschically charged by the care I have put into it over the years. It isn't a vestment per-say as i wear it on a regular basis. Very Cool.

-Jesse
 
 
Ierne
16:36 / 20.11.01
What role does clothing play in your own magickal rituals? Do you wear specific colours or outfits to create particular moods? – Ganesh

Clothing doesn't really play a big part in my rituals. As long as I wear something comfortable that I can freely move around in, I'm fine. To be fair, I work alone most of the time, so there's no-one around to diss my fashion sense in the presence of the Gods!

If I'm working with other people, then I would check with them re: dress code. (One exception: I don't do skyclad. Personal preference.)

As for colors & moods, I can't say I consciously do it, but I suppose I do dress in certain colors for certain effects. Blue for calm, Brown & Green for a healing, earthy vibe, Red for energy and Black...for that Saturnine (oo-ee!) vibe. I really don't wear a lot of White, for the simple reason that white clothes are a bitch to keep clean.

I do wear a lot of silver jewelry, but again not for any consciously Magickal reason. I just like looking like some disheveled Rock Star
 
 
Wyrd
20:58 / 21.11.01
quote:Originally posted by Ganesh:
1) What role does clothing play in your own magickal rituals? Do you wear specific colours or outfits to create particular moods?


Generally no, I don't wear different clothes. As Ierne said, for me it's mostly to do with comfort.

That being said, it's not always the same when you're working with other people.

I think if you're working in a Priest/ess capacity than it's a good psychological tool to wear something that marks you apart - not so much to boost your ego, but to confirm to those you are working with that you are fulfilling a certain function.

A lot of cultures put serious effort into their costumes, in particular shamanic cultures where there were usually talismans, etc. hanging off their clothes, and/or embroidery on them. These kinds of ritual clothing are very useful, and contain their own defenses.

I've been working as a Seer recently, and in that case I have a definite costume, albeit very plain, and wear two talismans. Everything I wear has a particular purpose, though it's not very fancy.

As some people have touched upon, everyone uses clothing and colours to enhance a mood. When you want to get a job (in a profession, for example) you generally dress in a suit, and adopt the necessary confidence - which can seem almost inherent to the item when you put it on. If you want to go dancing there's a whole range of outfits you can wear - flirty, outrageous, conservative, crazy, etc. So, yeah, costumes can have relavance to your magical, and non-magical work.

It depends a lot upon the person, and the magical situation.
 
 
Mordant Carnival
15:41 / 22.11.01
Usually I just look for something loose, comfortable and, for some stuff, easy to clean. Most of my clothes are black anyway. I was thinking of running up some "magickal" vestments, just as an experiment, to see if they helped me to get in the mood (some sort of robe might be nice), but like all the other props I don't regard clothes as being of central importance to my rituals. (This is only my personal experience, BTW.)
 
 
Little Mother
18:40 / 22.11.01
I don't have any majical clothes, partly out of sheer laziness and partly on principle since I don't see the magical part of my life as seperate form the eating, sleepin watching tv, shagging etc bits of it. If I'm communicating with the gods or anything else I'm doing it as me and akll that goes with it. The things I change are tone of voice and stuff like that in the same way you don't talk to your boss the same way as your younger teenage sibling. I do have a friend whose outfit of choice is cloak and combats. Combats have lots of pockets, in a ritual you can never have too many pockets!
 
 
grant
17:57 / 26.11.01
Having said that I prefer loose-fitting mufti, it strikes me that every time I act as a minister - performing weddings and baptisms - I do wear a simple stole I got from Almy & Sons religious wear catalog.
It's the simplest, cheapest religious vestment there is, but I still treat it with respect and act differently when it's on than when I take it off after the ceremony's over.

But that might be the difference between magic and religion right there.
 
  
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