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My name is XORN! I am here to HEAL you!

19:43 / 30.11.03

This weekend, I healed a very good friend of mine of a long-standing and traumatic emotional blockage using Invisibles style techniques, like Mad Tom curing Dane of his fears on the banks of the Thames. As a result, the person in question looks and feels better than they have done in ages, has finally summoned up the courage to talk to an old friend they haven't seen in months because of what happened, and has gone out with friends tonight for the first time in ages.

You can say what you like about voodoo vengeance, hypersigils, and running around with the Batman, but damn, stuff like this just makes one feel so good.

So - given that my last topic in here was all about cursing people and other generally 'nasty' magic - I suggest that, in the interests of karmic balance, we create an equally sprawling thread telling each other about all our healing experiences. After all, it's nearly christmas...We're allowed to get a bit sickly-sweet, surely.

All Acting Regiment

19:53 / 30.11.03

threadrot- feel free to ignore
As it's ""christmas"" surely is the time ripe to sacrifice some meat to the gods of frost in case the spirit of winter comes to steal away some people?

22:19 / 30.11.03

vestalvandal, would you care to go into more specific detail about exactly how you did yr rituals? i'm interested in getting some good healing going over here.

14:46 / 01.12.03

Yah, velvet, tell us more about this! What exactly did you do to help your friend?

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

17:25 / 01.12.03

...before I say anything else, I love the title of this thread. Xorn was cool.

Anyway, it sounds like an interesting experience, I'd like to hear about it.

My personal healing experiences have mostly been with a friend of mine who was the main person that I knew in the flesh who also did magic for the longest time. He was hypoglycemic (which I seem to remember being that too much sugar was bad rather than too little). Anyway, he was going into some sort of shock once and I did...something. I dunno. I layed my hands on him and forced the energies in his body to balance out. I've done this a few other times with him, in generally the same manner: I Will the energy to go through my hands into his body and balance things out. For me at least I don't think there's a lot of ritual to it, as it's a simple transfer of energy and, thus, is really one of the most basic applications of the Will. Though...thinking about it I could certainly use something to refine and focus it more, though.

XXII:X:II = XXX

00:17 / 02.12.03

The one "paranormal" talent I knew I had before I began studying magick was something akin to Edgar Cayce's "healing hands." I'm not talking about laying on of hands or anything, just an ability to instinctively target muscle knots and other malignancies, and draw them out. I was always in awe of a friend from college who could induce orgasm in women with his massages, but I suppose I have the more practical chi. At least that's what I keep telling myself.

When I do this, I often find myself closing my eyes and working as the energies move me. I think sometimes I even go into a trance state. I use my whole hand (which, despite being thin, are deceptively strong), and often get my elbows in on the work. Usually I'm able to disperse the pain, but I remember once I was massaging the back of a girl with severe spinal difficulties, and the emotions I had to process were so overwhelming that I bolted from the room. I also remember when I was a kid my mother came hopping on one foot into my room, claiming she'd lost sensation in her lower leg save for excruciating pain. Her jaw nearly hit the floor when I was able to disperse it within minutes.

Strangely enough, or perhaps not, I'm not able to do this so effectively on myself. Which is a bitch, because I sometimes do get backaches and the like. Must be something about those energies staying within the same system.

VJB2

07:21 / 02.12.03

I haven't got much experience of this, (I tried it a few times, they all died - what you gonna do?) but one thing that I do is to "empower" any medicines and the like that I might be taking. The way I see it, if the efect of medicines is partly psychosomatic, giving a clear statement of the intent to your "deep mind" or whatever has got to help. This might go - This substance x is to heal me from x, quickly and to add to feelings of health and well being - and making that statement as you ingest. Perhaps combined with an appopriate visualisation. I do this with "normal" medicines as well as hippy dippy stuff like echineida (however you spell it) and sometimes with drugs (though the S of I is then a bit different). I've done this with foodstuffs as well.

The only other thing I've done is let visualisations arise out of whatever-is-wrong-with-me and tried to work with them a little bit. Relax, let an image arise of the disease or strain, and try and dialogue with it, or encourage it perhaps change shape to a more positive image. I haven't noticed any huge successes with this but it seems like a worthwhile technique. One recent anecdote - I've had a pulled muscle or something in my chest recently, from sneezing a lot last time I had a cold. I let an image arise and it was of some kind of petrified (as in dried or frozen stiff) lobster. I looked at the image in my minds eye, thinking "what the fuck is that supposed to represent", and it came alive and started flipping around a little bit. I came out of my relaxation and my chest felt a lot more mobile and alive. Then, I thought - any crustacean like this is a a good repesentation of your ribcage as it's a hard shell around ya gooey bits. I think the movement in this visualisation helped me release some of the tension that I'd built up from "holding" my chest so as to avoid hurting it more. Whether this helps it heal in the long term remains to be seen, but I don't see why not.

Another point - I think loads of the exercises that we engage in are go to general help with the process of "healing" anyway, on a broader level. Relaxation, meditation, any work with breath and body, any techniques to destress, shed negative ideas about yourself - all these are the beginnings of the process of healing.

09:34 / 03.12.03

I'm bumping this cos I thought it was potenntially a really good thread. Any more for any more?

09:49 / 03.12.03

Yeah, loads! I went to a spiritual healer once, but I was rational literalist sceptic at the time and felt nothing. I have had some success with hands, and I think everyone has healing hands to some extent. Amateur Reiki can be tried by stroking (and it's nice) and by hovering your hands over someone- you'll often feel heat or tingling in affected areas, and just having your hands near it seems to soothe discomfort.
Obviously the more you invest into it the more effective it will be.

Just noticed nobody in the thread mentioned Reiki yet, how come? That's the extension of healing hands isn't it?
Has anybody tried shamanic healing techniques? What do we think of psychic surgery (I think it's a fraud)?

Dances with Gophers

10:39 / 03.12.03

Yeah I was going to mention Reiki (Re meaning universal and Ki another spelling of Chi ie force) but people kept distracting me with work

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Bard & Vladimir's tales sounds like Reiki.

Reiki can be fairly powerful and often quite moving. Exceedingly calming took over a week for work to get wound up again!

Frater Pontikos

11:57 / 03.12.03

So, since I have never posted before, and this happens to coincide with my first day on this board, I find yall talking about healing and this particular issue has come up for me pretty much my entire life, here goes:

I currently have Asthma, I've had it for over 25 years. (I developed the condition at about 6 months) A group of friends and I just got done reading and doing the exercises in chapter 17 of "Quantum Psychology" by RAW. The next chapter (the end of which suggests purchasing a machine that generates alpha-delta brain waves) provided a source of inspiration to me for dealing with the Asthma, and I wanted to see what everyone thought about this "experiment".

I recorded 5 Pro-Healthy lungs affirmations, and mixed them in (so that are sub-audible) with the Paul Oakenfold trance song "Gamemaster", which I added theta synth to (about 6.01 Hz). I set the track on loop with no pause, set the headphones on, and sit there for 45 minutes, staring at the iTunes visualizations. So far the results prove promising, (I have backed this up with traditional Asthma treatments) which have included short term relief from my normal symptoms. I should also note that I have contracted the Flu in the last two days and this has exacerbated my breathing problems. I plan to run this theta track once per day for the next few weeks and record my results. So the Flu variable should get eliminated with a few days.

In light of my initial success, I showed up here looking for further suggestions for my experiment. It has already occurred to me to drop a few hits of LSD while synth-ing out, in order to re-imprint some early Asthmatic conditioning.

My fiancé holds her Reiki Master attunement, and she has agreed to follow up these sessions with adjustments. (she also has her RMT, each your hearts out!)

Finally, I should mention my ultimate goal, which consists of utter cessation of all Asthmatic symptoms. (heh, I like to aim high)

What do yall think?

Mao Sew Doom

12:40 / 03.12.03

I'd feel funny commenting from a distance, (not being asthmaic for a start) but all the best anyway. Acid could be a bit heavy, but if you feel comfortable with it, why not give it a go?

Some of the literature around the works of Wilhelm Reich mentions asthmatic symptons arising and passing away within Reichian therapy sessions, not surprising really as you're monkeying around directly with your breath, so that might be something to look at. Anything that reduces tension around your breathing. Is anyone aware of any studies or treatments that look at this kind of thing? Relaxation and it's effects on asthma?

farseer /pokes out an i

16:25 / 03.12.03

Mao Sew Doom, please post an update to let us know how it progresses. I've considered a similar reimprinting, but since it's not for healing, I'll keep that to a different thread. And yay to the RAW's QS. Great book.

One of my own personal self-healing processes started when I was a kid, maybe in 5th grade or thereabouts. I was nearly delerious with fever, and being stuck in bed and whatnot, was very bored. Late at night, I started 'daydreaming' (which I now know was 'creative visualization'). I pictured a part of the inside of my skull (the sloping top, forehead patch) being covered with a charcoal-like dusty but clingy substance. Then I began to visualize a mental razor of sorts painlessly scraping away the substance. I fell asleep during this process, and woke up the next morning and my fever had broken.

Since then, I've had good results using that same visualization process to eliminate headaches and other head pains. Now I've ritualized it a bit more; I purposefully enter a medatative state, and once I acheive 'off sensation', I visualize the same 'inside of skill' viewpoint with the charcoal substance. Once that's firmly visualized, I will a wash of light that I can 'feel' in my head painlessly scraping away the 'charcoal'.

I haven't kept a sure and fast journal of how effective this process has been for me. It's been effective enough that whenever I get a headache I try it, and it at the very least lessens the pain.

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

17:53 / 03.12.03

Actually, I've never really had any experience with Reiki, at least under that name. I know a few people who have done it or had it done to them, but I've never had it done to me or actually seen it done on someone. For me, and most of the people I know that do energy work, it goes by different names. Reiki's just another one of them in the end, I suppose.

XXII:X:II = XXX

01:07 / 04.12.03

DwG squeaked: Bard & Vladimir's tales sounds like Reiki.

You don't say. My sister is a licensed Reiki therapist. Hm.

VJB2

The Tower Always Falls

02:50 / 04.12.03

Everything I've heard about Reiki sounds fascinating, but given my financial situation and lack of knowing anyone personally affiliated with it- I'm pretty inexperienced with it.

As for self-healing, my sig other and I were galavanting around Scotland last August and I caught the uber-cold. I don't often get sick and when I do, I'm not one to really make a big deal. But THIS was one of the most hideous things I ever experienced. I've never had a cold like this before. And then taking a train back from Bridge of Allan on top of it. AND the fact that I'm reading Jeff Noon's Pollen when I could barely focus my eyes past the lack of breathing and pounding head really didn't make me feel any better.

I actually got rid of a cold by making a deal with it to write a story featuring it- a la Grant Morrison and that funky blood infection. As soon as I did the cold literally vanished that second. Never felt anything like it. There were some remnants of the symptoms but for the most part, it was gone.

I told the cold to give me a year to write that story. I've got about eight months and counting...

Bard: One-Man Humaton Hoedown

03:27 / 04.12.03

Tower...that is the most amazing story of bardic bargaining I've heard yet. The power of the story is thus shown when the magus confronts his infection with the proposition for it to live eternally in prose or to die when his body annihilates it.

I wonder if the story will spawn off some sort of infectious meme...

12:57 / 04.12.03

You've told us the story of your cold. It's published here on the Internet, where it's probably more accessible than any short story collection. I think you've already fulfilled your part of the bargain.

21:05 / 05.12.03

This is all really interesting.

My own recent experience was more along the lines of psychological than physical healing - the 'patient' had been suffering from depression for a while, due to an incident in her past she hadn't confronted. I helped her to relive the scene, going through everything she did, how she felt, etc, to the point where she actually threw up, cried, and, eventually, felt a whole lot better. And I mean a whole lot - better looking, healthier, more energetic, the works. I've been following up and checking on her during the week and she really seems to have turned a corner with this thing. It's a nice thing to feel I could help with - though I will, of course, be the first person on the phone to the hospital if anything negative comes out of this dangerous and irresponsible experiment in practising therapy without a licence. One needs to take care with these things, after all.

The Tower Always Falls

22:20 / 06.12.03

I think you've already fulfilled your part of the bargain.

*blinks* wow. huh... a very good point.

I wonder if the story will spawn off some sort of infectious meme...

Well, if the above is enough of a story to satiate it, then that could perhaps explain why everyone at work had hideous colds except me the day after I posted this...

17:57 / 08.12.03

Just last night I did one. My wife complained of a pinched something in her back, said it felt like a pin was stuck in there. So, I visualized the pin, got a good grip on it and pulled it out. She immediately (in seconds) felt relieved.

That's a full half or more of all there is to psychic healing right there.

07:26 / 09.12.03

I remember an interesting example with a girl who was dying of cancer. I was sat with her and I felt a sensation in my heart. I wouldn't be able to describe the sensation - I'd never felt it before and I've never felt it again since then, and I probably never will. She described it as a beam of light from my heart to her heart which she said was helping her to deal with the pain.

07:29 / 09.12.03

(Hoping throwing this into the conversation won't cause any trouble)

How do you know how much of it is what you've done as a healer, how much they've done on their own in terms of their natural ability to heal, how much of it was a placebo effect on them, etc...

09:35 / 09.12.03

I don't think it matters- the placebo effect is magic in a way, and whether the healing comes from you or them isn't really important. The important bit is the healing.

10:17 / 09.12.03

That's a really amazing story, Mike. Sad as well.

Q - I disagree with that, or rather, I think the Placebo effect is really interesting, and I wouldn't want to dismiss it, but I'm sure how to factor it into the discussion either. Perhaps one of the things all these ideas and techniques are doing is tricking the placebo effect into working. A mate of mine told me a story a while back - he got some sort of infection, or irritation I think on his face, for which the doctor had given him antibiotics, and it was clearing up. A medically qualifed friend of his looked at the pills, pronounced them a placebo, and they stopped working. I remmeber my mate saying "why did he tell me!" and "the mind's an amazing thing". The more unconscious you are of it, the more likely it is to work, just like other areas of magick. Interesting eh? Any more thoughts?

15:00 / 09.12.03

Mike: from my recent example, she didn't know I was doing anything more than poking about the spot that hurt with my thumb. I was a bit suprised myself when she was like "oh, its better now. you can stop" seconds after I'd finished my little visualization. Then I told her what I did that actually fixed it.

But that's a different situation that when someone is asking you for healing and you're doing it with their participation. In that case, they are doing as much of the work as you are. I see it as my work is encouraging them to heal themselves. The more active a part they play in the working, the more that will be the case.

Though as I've noticed, doing auric repairs on someone even without their involvement will cause their physical body to repair itself to match the change in their energetic body. As above/below, and all that.