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Xbox live! ... not

 
 
hanabius yamamura
19:24 / 15.11.03
... so, finally got broadband and am now surfing the net like a turbocharged pony trekker - 'lith has never appeared so swiftly
- and thus got my sweaty mitts on xbox live! starter kit, an ethernet cable and a copy of PSO ... ooooooooooh, how i rushed home, eager to experience online play in 'minutes' ... ... ... my arse !!!

... having experienced the simple online joys of the sublime ( and criminally under-rated ) dreamcast, on which i spent HOURS of my life as 'washen' on PSO, i can only say that the apparently simple process of connecting my xbox to the live service is enough to give a cambridge mathematician a nosebleed ... ... ...

... has anyone else experienced this 'easy' procedure ? thoughts ?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:48 / 15.11.03
I'm planning on doing the Live thing when broadband finally drags its sorry arse over here - what problems are you having with it?

Oh, and a word of warning: Xbox PSO has, apparently, already been hacked to fuck. Thank heavens for little boys, because little boys become bigger idiots every day.
 
 
hanabius yamamura
19:59 / 15.11.03
... well, randy, where to begin ?!?!

... firstly, in teeny teeny print, the box says 'depending on your internet service, provider etc blah blah give me your cash you mug gamer blah, you may (ha!) need other hardware' ie my mate, the telecommunications dude, said 'oh, yeah, it's nippy' and i apparently need a router so ... ... ... ggggggrrrrrr

... secondly, the instructions of 'bung in the cd and go live! ' are so uninformative ... it's a good job i shave my head 'cause it'd be getting pulled oooooottttt!!!
 
 
hanabius yamamura
09:06 / 17.11.03
... sssswwwweeeeeeeeetttttt success ... all thanks to lovely claire ( technical support lady at telewest ) xbox live! is running like a dream ... took a bit of work but telewest were fab and ultra-helpful
 
 
The Strobe
10:21 / 17.11.03
Caveat emptor: it is, acutally, for a broadband service, dead easy.

What you have on the back of the Xbox is an ethernet socket. You need to plug this into your network, and if your network has internet access, it will work. The small print is saying "you somehow need to connect an ethernet socket to the internet".

If you have broadband, you can bung it direct into a cablemodem except you'll need to disconnect your PC. If you have ADSL, you need an ethernet modem, and you'll have to disconnect your pc...

or you just need a router. My ADSL comes through a router-modem combo. It's all rigged up, you just plug the Ethernet from the Xbox into the Router, put the CD in, and it all works. Like advertised.

(or: you can have two network cards in your PC, and use shudder internet connection sharing).

For what it is, it's dead easy. It's not a one-wire solution, but to be honest, I never thought broadband gaming WAS a one-stop solution that every single member of Joe Public would immediately understand. Setting more than one device up on broadband is always going to be a technical job, and to disguise it as anything otherwise is foolish.

(I still reckon on paper it's the best service out there. Now, to get a wireless bridge for my Xbox so I don't need to lug my Xbox and telly upstairs... Live is a project for my Xbox very shortly)
 
 
Linus Dunce
10:30 / 17.11.03
or: you can have two network cards in your PC, and use shudder internet connection sharing.

Is this very hard? Or is sharing bandwidth the issue?
 
 
The Strobe
10:48 / 17.11.03
Sharing the bandwidth is fine. I'm also informed that the ICS method works fine if you use the right settings - I think it's a 98SE/2k/XP thing, I know 2k and XP can do it but forget about 98. And people using it are reportedly happy. I just find the idea of having two network cards in one machine scary. I'm wet. I have a router. Hopefully will be trying Xbox live at some point (as I've got a 2month free trial to use) so will let you know about experiences too.

Only got one Live-enabled game, as yet, though...
 
 
The Strobe
11:47 / 17.11.03
A quick browse of the Xbox Live forums (ugh) reveals that a) most users of Live (at least, those who post on the MS fora) are not the sharpest cookies in the box and b) broadband is one of the most misunderstood technologies in the world.

Many, many posts about people wanting "to do this on the cheap and not like buy any extra hardware whatosever" or "will i get ripped off witha huge phone bill?" MS are doing almost as good a job as you can of explaining the service... and BB providers are doing pretty well at configuring it for users on the end of the phone.

The fact that most of the XBL forum writes posts as if they were text messages doesn't exactly help. It makes my heart sink every time I go in there... do I REALLY want to fork out to play with these people?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
13:46 / 17.11.03
That's official fora for you, though. I mean, have you ever dared have a look at the one on the UK's official Nintendo site? Car crash doesn't even begin to describe it.

My main interest in the service is largely antisocial, I've got to admit - league tables and downloadable content. Until Halo 2 comes out, anyway.
 
 
hanabius yamamura
13:50 / 17.11.03
Setting more than one device up on broadband is always going to be a technical job, and to disguise it as anything otherwise is foolish.

... and, as a simple soul, this was my main difficulty ...

If you have broadband, you can bung it direct into a cablemodem except you'll need to disconnect your PC

... and this is what i've ended up doing, after tech. support basically talked me through a lot of what you mentioned above, Paleface. My main difficulty was that i've not got a lot of insight into the world of network cards, routers etc.

... i can only praise telewest tech. support again as they were very helpful and within 10 minutes had me up, running and a lot more informed than i was previously
 
 
hanabius yamamura
13:59 / 17.11.03
... also ...

firstly, in teeny teeny print, the box says 'depending on your internet service, provider etc blah blah give me your cash you mug gamer blah, you may (ha!) need other hardware' ie my mate, the telecommunications dude, said 'oh, yeah, it's nippy' and i apparently need a router so ... ... ... ggggggrrrrrr

... secondly, the instructions of 'bung in the cd and go live! ' are so uninformative ... it's a good job i shave my head 'cause it'd be getting pulled oooooottttt!!!


... with hindsight, i appreciate microsoft have a HUGE job on their hands catering to the gaming masses and are probably explaining things a lot clearer than i appreciated and don't deserve my un-informed ranting ...

... as i said, i'm a simple soul who had been reading tech. sites for a number of hours by this point ... ... ...
 
 
hanabius yamamura
22:09 / 18.11.03
... one final word on xbox live! - one definitely in it's favour ...

... just finished playing a 2 hour session of capcom vs snk2 eo with a mate who lives about 200 miles away ... it was like playing in the same room - voice chat ( albeit a wee bit glitchy ) was spot on for baiting n' berating and network gameplay? ... spot on with no lag whatsoever swwwweeeeeeeeeeeet
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
07:35 / 19.11.03
I used to get a great Counterstrike connection on my uni lan until the buggers finaly remembered to put up a LAN.

threadrot aside, how's Xbox PSO? I used to love the DC version, even though the last boss made me shit my pants and pull the power the first time I got to him. Only game to ever scare me (and don't get me started on his hard mode third form. brrrrrrrrrrr).
 
 
hanabius yamamura
12:47 / 19.11.03
... xbox pso rocks ... voice chat definitely adds to it and there's some new character classes, as well as episode 2 which essentially doubles the size of the offline game ... it also allows you to play lots of stuff, eg. battle from ver2 of the dc version, offline ...

... bum point is that you HAVE to have an xbox live! account to play it even offline ...
 
 
foot long subbacultcha
14:02 / 15.12.08
I never thought I'd be as impressed with online gaming as I am now. I used to be a wireplay subscriber oh so long ago, and have fond memories of driving to a friend's house with my PC in the boot of my car. XBOX LIVE is fantastic. I've only just tried Gears of War on the public system and didn't expect to have so much fun. It's even better with friends. A Gears of War 2 session is a great excuse to catch up with a beer, even though you're miles away from each other. The voice communication isn't quite phone call quality, but it's pretty damn good.

Anyone who wants to add me as a friend, do PM me - I'm not that interested in going online to find games so much as spending quality gaming time with people I know or can get to know (even if it's just in a getting-better-at-a-game capacity)
 
  
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