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Is Sex and the City Post-Feminist?

 
 
Orange Julius is New
16:56 / 07.11.03
Are Carrie and her friends simply trying to reclaim post-feminist "femininity"? Or is Sex and the City a "farcical bitch-slap" to feminism itself, as Shelton Hull put it, "quite possibly the most viciously misogynistic television show of all time"?

Does it matter that the show is often written and directed by men?
Is the show post-modern and, if so, how does that affect the criticism applied to it?
If it is completely unredemable, what would make it better?
If it doesn't represent reality, what would?

Just something to think about as I pop another bag of Act II and put Season 4 in the dvd player.
 
 
Foust is SO authentic
17:15 / 07.11.03
Two cents worth here. I've always considered the 4 leads to be just about the least symapthetic females characters I've ever encountered. The show grates on my nerves. Yeah, I think the folks writing this show have a really low opinion of women.
 
 
All Acting Regiment
20:34 / 17.11.03
The characters in s&tc are of course over the top versions of the real thing- if real people lived like that, thered be about a hundred times more STD's for one thing.

Personally I'd say that the image it presents of men & women is gurning sex zombies drowning in their own shit. It's a uniquely digusting portrait of sexuality in a confined space.

I'd say it's sexist towards both men and women- though leaning towards women because its seen from a woman'as point of view.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
23:20 / 17.11.03
The problem with the show is that it's focused purely on sex. If it mentions a person's career than that is immediately linked to the problems that the job causes in their sex life. Naturally the result is a show that appears to be woman-hating and man-hating and in fact person-hating because sex is fundamental to adult life but people generally accept it as one part of that life rather than their everything.

Carrie is the main character and as such I find her absolutely disgusting. She is presented as a neurotic, hopeless woman who is obsessed with her sex life and spares little thought for the people around her. She is financially a complete loser because all of her money is spent on frivolous consumer products. She constantly whines but worst of all she hangs around with people who, in reality she would dislike and vice versa. This is probably the biggest flaw... female friendship is mocked because the women have major character clashes that are simply washed over. Look at Charlotte and Samantha, there's always a tension between them in the show but they would never talk to one another in their everyday lives. Here the show becomes misogynistic because it makes an assumption about the female sex that is ridiculous, that having one thing in common- being single- is enough to remain friends and that thing unfortunately suggests a good amount dependence on men. Other women, the model who marries Mr. Big, have power but they are frowned upon and disliked by this merry band of friends. Thus the one design in the series to rival the sex obsession, the thing that according to fans is the best thing about it, female friendship is in my opinion vitally flawed.
 
 
eye landed
08:36 / 18.11.03
I've not ever seen the show, but I'll toss a rule of thumb out there: if you're asking if something is post-something, it is. Hence the end of history. Excuse me.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
09:06 / 18.11.03
Someone tell me that wasn't a Fukuyama reference. I may have to go and throw myself off the edge of a building now.

How precisely is SATC post-feminist? I mean, these characters are claiming all the rights of feminism- sex out of wedlock, careers, trouser suits. It's hardly post-feminist because they want to get married... quite a lot of feminists did you know. Men are presented as pretty lame and over-masculinised. Sounds like a shot at feminism to me. It's written by men, does that make it post-feminist?
 
 
doctorbeck
14:16 / 18.11.03
i heard it was written by gay men and it is better understood if you read it as 4 drag queens and their lives

tho that falls down given that one had a baby recently

it is definitiely post-good, the latest series is dull.

but i liked that it showed woen in roles that wre at least a little different, and samanthas ability to have a sex life without emotional strings AND NOT GET PUNISHED is quite refreshing given that this is generallt not allowed in western visual media

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gridley
15:29 / 18.11.03
My girlfriend is a big fan of this show, as our most of my female friends, so I've seen most of the episodes. I have to admit the show brings out a previously unsuspected prudish side to me. I don't like these characters manage their sex lives, especially Carrie and Samantha (who between them have surely slept with half the men in New York by now). While I find it enjoyable enough, it's view of relationships sometime leaves a bad taste in my mouth (at least Charlotte and Miranda are finally doing ok!), and makes me not particularly like women as portrayed on the show.

I was also quite bothered a couple years ago that so many of my female friends identified with that Bridget Jones movie. I couldn't have written a more misogynistic story if I tried, yet my friend Amy said "This is the way every woman feels" and two other girls in the office nodded enthusiastically.

I want to say that all this is the result of me seeing these shows from a decidedly heterosexual male point of view, and that really they're not half as bad as I think. I do admit I find the concept of trying to write a sex comedy about four modern singles in which the characters don't sometimes come off as slutty is pretty unrealistic.
 
 
Yotsuba & Benjamin!
20:55 / 18.11.03
I would describe this show as Post-Quality.

My girlfriend and I used to enjoy it, I enjoyed the exploits of the refreshingly tall Miranda, but they just had to muck it up with forced evolution, giving people babies and weddings. If it had just stuck to the premise and didn't outlast its ingenuity (a trap deftly avoided by The Office) it might have remained a quaint jaunt through the lives of people with way too much disposable income on their hands. Now, it's poo.
 
 
Ganesh
22:03 / 18.11.03
Nah, they're female metrosexuals.
 
  
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