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Contemporary incarnations of God-forms

21:57 / 06.11.03

Do the Gods still walk amongst us? Is the reason that certain singers or actors suddenly go supernova for a brief time because they have incarnated a God?

For instance: Aphrodite/Venus/Isis - maybe two years ago, Kylie went supernova after years in the wilderness, and everyone agreed that she was gorgeous, she looked like she thought so herself, and she never missed an opportunity to shake her tush in public. Now, she's complaining about the media's obsession with her ass, and she looks older - it's as though the spirit's left her. Meanwhile, Beyoncé is glowing and all over the media like a rash.

And maybe Christina Aguilera is Nepthys (note that her her is black now) and Justin Timberlake is Adonis?

I don't know for sure, but it certainly explains the hysterical behaviour that surrounds these people for a very short period of time. What do the Barbelithers think of this idea? Are there other examples anyone can see?

23:22 / 06.11.03

having been face to face with how the media machine and record labels promote and market artists, I can guarantee you that "supernova looks/appearance" can be manufactured, faked, manipulated.

If all of a sudden everyone adores a new idol, it' mainly due to the mindcontrol and brainwashing we are all subject to, not necessarily the intrinsic qualities if the product that happens to be a human, or rather the image of a human.
[dont mean to sound like the cliché disillusioned artist, but it had to be said]

I do think certain "celebrities" have a very strong connection to the collective subconscious/supercontext/hyperspace though, and that gives them a qualitiy that the audience likes to connect with. This can be witnessed with people who have long term success I believe. Such cases usually tend to avoid the spotlight though.

To me it seems these example you are giving are more about man-made idolism rather than incarnation of Gods. Which opens a much bigger can of worms, where does man's creation end and god's creation begin.....one could even argue that we ourselves are manufacturing these "gods"

Nietzsch E. Coyote

06:53 / 07.11.03

Its magick all right I just don't know if it involves any gods. The manipulators of the image are hard core Mages but the effects of their glamours are usually quite temporary.

07:36 / 07.11.03

To move the discussion out slightly, I do wonder about the obsession the UK media seems to have with child killers. The headlines in the UK at the moment are all about the trial of Ian Huntley, for the double murder of two young girls (aged 10 or so). I don't know if this is solely the effect of the press and wanting to sell papers, there''s uch an obsession around it in the UK, we seem to have some weird media based sacrifice collective catharis cult being acted out through the papers. I suppose this is refered to in The Invisibles, with the reference to Princess Diana haveing Myra Hindley as her anthithesis.

(sidenote: Why is all the bile always directed at women? Ian Brady was primarily repsonible for the Moors Murders, yet Hindley seems to have become the nation's bogewoman. In this trial, Huntley's girlfriend, Maxine Carr, seems to be attracting an inordinate amount of hatred. Women disobeying cultural programming, of nuturing roles, maybe?)

Thoughts?

22:26 / 07.11.03

I do wonder about the obsession the UK media seems to have with child killers
I believe it's fear mongering.
keep the public afraid....then it's easier to control...
remember dune?...fear is the mindkiller.....

and gore news involving the "weaker elements" of society (kids & women) are even more successful.

here in LA there's all this "south-central is so evil and dangerous" crap going on...and don't forget about the "terrorist" threats... and we're on "amber alert" whatever the fuck that is....
I believe much of that is just being projected out to the public to keep everyone eating their fast food and doing the slave jobs. and those "god" idols do have a part in that plan, give us something to think of that doesn't seem so grey and mundane and empty as our own lives....

sorry to be trailing off, this is the magick board i know....