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'Avant Garde' Electronics

 
 
reFLUX
19:51 / 05.11.03
can anyone recomend any early electronic music, I'm talking pre Kraftwerk. i know of the obvious ones like Stokhausen and the BBC Radoiphonic Workshop people but who else is there?
a discussion along with the recomendation would also be nice. modern electronics in a similiar vien would also be ok. thanks.
 
 
Gary Lactus
06:50 / 06.11.03
Ron Geesin was cutting up tape in te mid 60s and some of his stuff is great. His albums aren't generally hardcore electronics though, (except for the electrosound series). He frequently mixes electronics with virtuoso banjo playing. More humourous than your average 'tronic musician.

Edgard Varese's Poem Electronique was a real seminal work, definately worth checking out. Spooky as hell.

Bit light on the discussion side of this post but I've got to get to work now.
 
 
illmatic
08:06 / 06.11.03
Raymond Scott?

There are several CD retrospective of this guys work released over the last few years, the latest one is a Double CD and 144 page book! I think "Soothing Sounds for Baby" was the first. Electonica from over 40 years ago.
 
 
Saveloy
10:19 / 06.11.03
Pierre Henry - a French composer who did bleepy bloopy stuff in the 60s (?) with groovy percussion and rock guitar (amongst other things). His most famous track is 'Psyche Rock', which you can find on this album. IIRC there was an album released in the 90s of well-known dance/electronic types covering some of his tunes.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
10:23 / 06.11.03
I have the Raymond Scott book and Double CD (entitled Manhattan Research Inc). Quality stuff. He was a true innovator, even if people didn't want him to be.

Employer: Mr Scott, we at Ford auto cars are great admirers of your previous orchestral compositions, so we have no qualms in getting you to do the jingle for our new ad.

Scott: No problem.

Composes 30 second string of electronic beeps, squeaks and thuds that sounds like a robotic toad making love to Sputnik.

Scott: How's that?

Employer (backing out of room): Here, just... just take the money!
 
 
Jack Fear
17:26 / 06.11.03
Early electronic noise in a "pop" framework? Two words:
Silver Apples.
 
 
Not Here Still
18:01 / 06.11.03















John Cage

(Sorry - bad joke) Cage is a really interesting composer and actually predicted the production of music through electronic instruments in one of his early essays. Personally I find some of his stuff a bit, well, unlistenable, but some of it is great.
 
 
Gary Lactus
17:09 / 07.11.03
Having heared Raymond Scott's baby music I fail to see how it could possibly be soothing; it's fucking mentallist rave music without the beats!
 
 
at the scarwash
03:47 / 09.11.03
La Monte Young experimented with drrrroooooooonnnnnessss. He wrote compositions that were a sine wave. That's it. You wander around the room between the speakers. That's the only change you get. The Dream Syndicate stuff is apparently more interesting, but less electronic. Steve Reich did some wonderful tape pieces, using simultaneous tapes to explore his ideas about rhythmic phasing. You play two copies of the same tape on two tape machines. They go out of phase eventually. Wooshes ensue. Bruce Haack was a Moog childrens' music pioneer. The Electric Lucifer will fuck you up. Of course there is Wendy/Walter Carlos. Clockwork Orange, Switched-On Bach, Tron--but you probably know all of that already. Clara Rockmore is the first Virtuousa of the Theramin. Bob Moog's Big Briar sells videos of her. I recommend the one where she's hanging out with Moog, her son, her sister, and some other guy in her apartment in Manhattan giving a concert and discussing the history of electronic music. Hot stuff.
 
 
The Knights Templar Boogie Machine
12:43 / 09.11.03
Alexander scarabin - he used to experiment with sonics and its effect on metabolism in the early 1900's (Psychic Tv's Themes 2 record utilises samples and audio techniques pioneered by him), The futurist art movement recorded some very abrasive industrial noise collages around the 1920's i think..Theres a website of them somewhere if i can remember the link.......
 
  
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