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The Fiery Furnaces

 
  

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Matthew Fluxington
17:57 / 21.10.03
The Fiery Furnaces may be the best new band of this decade.

If I was the type of person who made year-end lists of records, The Fiery Furnaces' Gallowsbird's Bark would immediately zoom into my top ten, maybe even my top five. It was extremely hard figuring out which songs to post here - there are 16 songs on the album, and I've fallen in love with every single one of them. It's so rare for a band to seemingly drop out of the sky fully formed like this, with an aesthetic which is very particular to themselves but also owing to some extremely top-drawer antecedents. Think White Album-era Beatles, Wowee Zowee Pavement, early Bob Dylan, Royal Trux at their best, Guided By Voices at their wackiest, and a little bit of early Liz Phair and The Slits for spice. Think great loose-sounding chops, excellent melodies, a distinctive singer, and a playful spirit that makes it all sound tossed-off. This is my favorite kind of rock and roll. The last time I fell in love with a band this quickly was when I discovered Clinic back in 1999. These people are special, I promise you.

Gallowsbird's Bark may be the best debut album by a rock band since Slanted & Enchanted. Why have you not heard it yet?
 
 
Ethan Hawke
18:41 / 21.10.03
Dutch?
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
18:53 / 21.10.03
Is there any way to make fonts in the thread titles bigger?

THAT'S ALL THIS THREAD IS MISSING!!!!



I've only heard two songs, too. I haven't heard the album yet because I'm just not ready.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:28 / 21.10.03
Wow. They aren't Dutch. I thought they were Dutch! They sound so Dutch to me. Her accent - she wasn't born in America, was she? She must be European, right?

I'm so embarassed!
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
19:29 / 21.10.03
At any rate, Todd, you should clear your datebook for November 22nd, because you're coming with me to see them play the Mercury Lounge.
 
 
Seth
07:58 / 22.10.03
They do have one of the best band names I've heard in a long time. That's good enough reason to check them out in my book.
 
 
rizla mission
09:40 / 22.10.03
Heard a track by 'em last night.

Have to say it didn't immediately grab me, but then not much on the tasteful side of AC/DC really does these days.. as I've said in the past, I didn't 'get' most of my favourite bands when I first heard them.. my musical taste buds set in veerrry sloowly. And Flux's description sounds double plus good, so I'll keep my ears open..
 
 
Guy Parsons
20:58 / 22.10.03
I got their single/EP, Crystal Clear, and just thought it was messy and self-indulgent. Nothing to really get your teeth into, just indieness-as-gimmick and the tired brother/sister formula. Not that one can really hold their sibling relationship against them, but still.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
22:37 / 22.10.03
Indieness-as-gimmick, whatever.

Guy isn't it a little unfair to judge a band by their b-sides? You've got to hear the album to get the full effect. I really like "Crystal Clear" but I don't think it's their best song.

I've got two songs on my blog, maybe you should try them out.
 
 
Saveloy
09:40 / 04.12.03
Just got the album for my brother for Christmas - absolutely fantastic stuff. I'm completely amazed. Proves yet again that there is nothing finer than pop + weirdness. Make me think of Pram, with a more powerful singer and a sense of urgency. Pram crossed with Clinic, maybe, with a wee bit of the Coral and the Fall ('Leaky Tunnels' sounds like 'What You Need' performed by Suicide). I reckon their nearest kin, however, are Sparks - similar aesthetic, same sense of ooh-ooh-running-about-all-over-the-place madness. And the female singer sounds a *lot* like the guy from Sparks, without the operatics and high notes.

Are they European? The line about buying a tambourine from the Millenium Dome and the references to places in London suggest they're either British or living there (um, here).
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
10:02 / 04.12.03
Hmmm. I was thinking of getting the album, but you've just said they sound a bit like The Coral. Please tell me they don't?
 
 
Saveloy
10:54 / 04.12.03
Hmm, well, when I said "a wee bit of The Coral", I meant there was something of the Coral's 'lot's of things shoved in a sack and jiggled about' aesthetic in them. I don't think they sound like the Coral in any way that might cause you to ruffle your wee nose, anyhow. Or, to put it another way - they aren't a lumpy bloke's sort of band. Just buy the album!

Btw, I've checked out a couple of interviews on the web and it turns out they grew up in Chicago & live in Brooklyn (they're a bro/sis duo). The UK references are from a trip to Britain made by the singer.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:24 / 04.12.03
Flyboy, you trust me, right? Get it. You'll really like it. There's nothing "Coral" about them really.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
11:41 / 04.12.03
I got this for my sister's xmas present. This is making me want to have a sneaky listen... but I think I'd decided to wait until I give it to her.

Still - hooray for buying people things you want that they will like as well!
 
 
Saveloy
12:28 / 04.12.03
Matthew:

"Get it. You'll really like it."

He's right. And if you don't like it, you can always take it back and swap it for that Cast album you've been after.

Take a look at this piccy - definitely a dollop of Sparks in there.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:39 / 04.12.03
I think the beautiful thing about the Fiery Furnaces is that everyone who tries to describe them mentions about six or seven different bands that they are kinda sorta like, and there's not that much overlap in what bands they choose. They are kind of like a musical Rorshach test or something! I do hear people compare them to Patti Smith a lot, but I'm not sure about that - Eleanor looks a bit like Patti Smith in person. It's there a little bit, I guess. The more I listen to the Fiery Furnaces, the more it becomes clear that they are just very original and their aesthetic is very much their own. I love them.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:41 / 04.12.03
Saveloy, have you heard the cover of The Fall's "The Winter" that they recorded for that recent Rough Trade compilation? It's fabulous.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
12:52 / 04.12.03
Flyboy, you should buy this album if just because I suspect that you are going to really love the song "Rub Alcohol Blues."
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
13:57 / 04.12.03
Are you guys trying to make me rip off that shrink rapping and listen to it anyway?

They are hard to describe - from what I've heard - everyone says all their favourite bands! Which is great. I'd have to add in a dollop of Wowee Zowee, like you mentioned Flux... in fact I think that will go nicely with my little Pavement revival (did I ever stop?) period. But the weather right now is just right for Summer Babe. Even if I can't help wanting to sing "Summer Blooonde!" which just doesn't work!
 
 
Saveloy
14:00 / 04.12.03
Matthew>

No, not heard that yet, but I'll definitely be seeking it out. I asked about it on Fallnet a while back (before I'd heard anything by The FFs) and some idiot gave it a slagging.

Spot on about the band comparison thing, I've noticed it not just from the posts here but from the reviews I've checked out on the web; my brother even had me thinking they were going to be an electro-clash band. I agree that it is evidence of their uniqueness - you can't point to another band that sounds like them, only ones that share some of their sensibilities, attitude or approach, or even just other bands who might have had the same influences.

I was genuinely shocked by the album when I first heard it. Most bands that you hear, regardless of quality, you can see how they fit in to the natural progression of things, or how they fit in to the dominant aesthetics of the time, but I don't reckon that's true of The Fiery Furnaces. They could have appeared any time in the last 20, 25 years.
 
 
Ethan Hawke
14:29 / 04.12.03
I kind of put "Gallowsbird Bark" in a category with "Slanted and Enchanted" and "Internal Wrangler" as one of the most stunning debuts of the "indie" (american style) era.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:33 / 04.12.03
Suede, I don't mean to be a devil on your shoulder, but you may want to consider just getting your sister a different present!

BARBELITH EXCLUSIVE!

The Fiery Furnaces "The Winter" - I'll only keep this here for a few days, so act quick!

Eleanor Friedberger looks across the pub table to where her elder brother, Matt, is explaining his theory about the music they make together under the name the Fiery Furnaces. "We'd like to play for little kids and in old folks' homes," he says, "and play in nasty bars as well. The music we want to play is more catholic - it's a big enough mess that whether it's the old folk or the kids, they could find something amusing. Hopefully, it is really silly, shiny music. I want it to have a broken toy sound. And also a piano singalong thing. I always like the idea of families entertaining themselves by singing, like every member of a family has a special song they sing when they get drunk enough, a Cole Porter song or whatever. That's fun pop music to me."

This article from the Guardian gets it right.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
14:40 / 04.12.03
Eleanor is a startling and compelling frontwoman, blessed with a deeply disconcerting stare.

This is totally true, by the way, and not at all an exaggeration. When I saw them live a few weeks ago, I noticed how strange she is on stage. She locks eye contact with audience members for entire songs sometimes, and I felt it first hand during (I think) "We Got Back The Plague", and it was really weird. I'm not sure how to describe how she moves and how she carries herself - it's not like anyone I've seen before.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:48 / 04.12.03
Ok! I'll just give it a listen, to... y'know, check it's the right thing to have gotten her.

It wouldn't be right, you see, to not be entirely sure of every song/note/lyric being something she would like.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
14:53 / 04.12.03
Listening to the first track, it's lucky that I don't find the packaging particularly desirable.

Now, where are my blank cds...

I love how the first song starts off in a completely traditional indie riffage way... and then just goes completely different before kicking in! Beautiful.

Thoughts that go: Hmm, bouncy indie? ---- oooh? Ooooooh! -----> grin.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
15:04 / 04.12.03
Wow. Three days - seriously? Why aren't more bands like this? I mean, you compare it to a band like the Strokes taking 5000 years to perfect their sound, with their shockingly minimal releases... to this demo done in three days... I know which sound (multiple sounds in this case) I'd think would take more work to perfect.

They just seem like music is leaking out of their pores. Which is great! Music leaking from pores is my favourite sound for a band. Pavement? Music leaked from many pores there, just couldn't stop it. Just kept going and going, ideas and sounds - zip! This = the same.

Also, judging by the article they seem kinda fun. Oh, and I think I'm in love.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:13 / 04.12.03
The Fiery Furnaces secret weapon - relying on keyboards and pianos more than guitars, without seeming overly "keyboardy."
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
20:26 / 06.12.03
An mp3 of one of their best tunes, "Inca Rag/Name Game," can be found on this page in the Insound free music section. Just scroll down a bit.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:51 / 18.12.03
UK fans! Don't miss them on their forthcoming UK tour.

FEB 20 @ BARFLY / CARDIFF, UK
FEB 21 @ KING TUTS / GLASGOW, UK
FEB 23 @ ACADEMY 3 / BIRMINGHAM, UK
FEB 24 @ GARAGE / LONDON, UK
FEB 25 @ ROADHOUSE / MANCHESTER, UK
FEB 26 @ SHEFFIELD UNIVERSITY / SHEFFIELD, UK
 
 
Saveloy
08:40 / 19.12.03
So how do they do it live? Does the bro' play 5 instruments at once like an octopus, or do they get session peeps in?
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
11:02 / 19.12.03
They perform as a quartet live. Matt plays keyboards, bass, or guitar depending on the song (but mostly keyboard), Eleanor sings and plays guitar, and they've got a drummer and a guy who plays keyboards and bass.

This is what I wrote about their live show on my blog:


Wow. I really can't emphasize enough how different The Fiery Furnaces are live than on their album. The songs are still there, and their aesthetic is more or less entirely intact, but the arrangements of nearly every song is either subtly or drastically different from what you hear on the record. For example, "Tropical Iceland" was played as a keyboard-heavy upbeat pop song instead of a mellow art-folk number, and "Bow Wow" was played with a totally different (and far more harsh) keyboard sound. "We Got Back The Plague" was based more around the keyboard than the guitar, and Matt sang the verses, leaving Eleanor to sing the choruses. All of the songs were played much faster, especially "I'm Gonna Run," which was played nearly triple the speed of the album recording.

I enjoyed hearing the songs differently, and I appreciate that they treat their songs as living, changeable things. I've seen way too many artists who treat their studio arrangements with too much reverence and that can lead to rather dull and rote live performances. (I'm thinking specifically about Radiohead right now, who are certainly a great band to see live, but with few exceptions do everything they can to reproduce their album arrangements.) Playing the songs differently live also makes me think that they are more thoughtful and considered about how they make their albums, and that the consistency of quality and feeling on their album is no fluke. Everything about Gallowsbird's Bark seems much more deliberate now, and I like that.

I wouldn't say that the live versions were better than the album versions, though they were all quite good in their alternate arrangements. I'd love to get some live recordings of their shows so that I could get to know the songs this way, because when I was watching them last night, I couldn't stop thinking about the differences between the arrangements, particularly when they were so drastic that the music behind the vocal melodies were almost entirely different, as in "Leaky Tunnel" or "Asthma Attack." Almost all of the songs lost some of their subtlety and charm in their looser, more rocking live arrangements. I wish that they would slow down and take their time, if just a little bit. I can appreciate that they up the energy for their live performance - that makes perfect sense - but in the case of "I'm Gonna Run," it seemed like they were just a bit too frantic and shambolic for their own good.
 
 
Regrettable Juvenilia
08:51 / 08.01.04
A copy of Gallowsbird's Bark arrived in the post today (Saveloy, you are a scholar and a gentleman). Early thoughts based on the tracks I listened to on the bus to work: nice, very nice. I can hear the reasons they've been compared to Royal Trux - it's the more playful, surprising side of Royal Trux, the one that was more about mucking around with odd instrumental arrangements than digging around in the muck of rock'n'roll history (not that I mind that side of Trux at all). I also hear the hint of Patti Smith in Eleanor Friedberger's voice - although, unlike certain of her contemporaries, it doesn't sound like a deliberate imitation, which is refreshing. Yeah, and I hear a little bit of late Beatles, maybe, although I always wonder whether that reference point is just the most obvious of many one could invoke on hearing a certain kind of pop. Anyway, I like hearing all this.

Stand-outs so far:

'Leaky Tunnel' - oh gosh, it's production WOW time. The sounds on this track impress me much in the same way as the RZA's 'Cherry Range', so much so that I'm slightly disappointed when the most interesting stuff drops out around the two minute mark. It's still great, though, and so far it's the song on which the Furnaces' thing for singing about London tourist spots and the like is most charming.

It also transitions nicely into 'Up In The North'. Now if I was still drinking, and if I could, I would love to persuade a whole bunch of my favourite people to listen to 'Up In The North', fall in love with it and learn all the words, and then at the end of a long evening of carousing we would sit in someone's front room and have a good old sing-along.

'Don't Dance Her Down' - is also very good. Sorry, here my ability say something interesting about a song after one listen has failed me, and I just have to register my approval and the likelihood that I will soon be humming this one regularly too.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
13:28 / 08.01.04
Fly, are you going to see them play in February in London? You really ought to.
 
 
Suedey! SHOT FOR MEAT!
15:24 / 08.01.04
I'm hoping to assemble a rag tag bunch to make it to Birmingham.

I've been listening to them quite a lot lately, and I love them, simply. They feel kind of like kiddie fantasy books, but only in my brain, where it just feels nice (I seem to have an awful habit today of thinking of things I like simply making me feel like all the other things I like. Which is hard to describe but awfully nice to have to try). Wintery but warm. I must make an effort to listen to it at a point where all the songs don't blend together (my main listening is when doing other things and going to sleep, for example), though thinking about it, that's something they do very nicely and I like it.

However, they're on hiatus at present because I finally got Malkmus' first album back. I didnt have it for long before it dissapeared... wow!

Troubbble = ahead of the game!

I have found my king. Again.

Look who's rambling off topic, but hastening to add it's allowed because it is jickcentric. I could listen to Church on White forever. However, I'm only talking about this to goad Matthew in to entertaining me with more tales and fun facts.
 
 
Matthew Fluxington
15:43 / 08.01.04
I think the most right-on thing I've read about the Fiery Furnaces so far was written by O. Nate over on his blog. He ranks Gallowsbird's Bark as his #2 album of the year (after Outkast), and this is what he says:

2. Fiery Furnaces - Gallowsbird's Bark. With this, their jaw-dropping debut, the Fiery Furnaces single-handedly bring fun and adventure back to the realm of rock. If I had to guess, I would say that the Friedberger sibs have been spending some time with Harry Smith's landmark Anthology of American Folk Music. Little snippets of traditional folk tunes peek out here and there. "I've played cards in England/I've played cards in Spain" is lifted from "The Cuckoo", a tune performed by Clarence Ashley in the Harry Smith Anthology. There is something very old and very American about these twisted little ditties, something that speaks to the old-fashioned pleasures of song-making - of singing around a campfire or an old family spinet. Anyone who grew up playing games of the imagination with a brother or sister or friend will feel right at home here. The folk elements are not played straight, rather they have been reconfigured as off-kilter rock, in the tradition stretching back from Pavement to Captain Beefheart's Magic Band, bands that evoked classic song forms while simultaneously re-imagining them. However, Eleanor Friedberger's earnest, fresh-faced vocals are miles away from Stephen Malkmus's lazy drawl or Captain Beefheart's Wagnerian Howlin' Wolfisms, and the music has a lighter touch as well, with cleverly deployed piano giving the proceedings an almost vaudeville feeling at times.

Suede, I don't think you're off-base at all to bring up Malkmus (especially Jick-y Malkmus) in this thread. They seem like kindred spirits for sure, and I think the Fiery Furnaces are sort of in the space place right now where Pavement were back in 1991/92.
 
  

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