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The (New) Texas Chainsaw Massacre

 
 
FinderWolf
17:22 / 17.10.03
I can't believe I'm posting about this, I'm not really a horror fan. I saw the original movie a while back, and I remember the movie (and several articles about the new one) mentioning that it's based on actual events in TX. I'm assuming the factual basis is just that some guy went crazy and murdered some kids with a chainsaw...but was there really a twisted mutant family who ate people??

I was always curious to see just what the real factual story was that the movie was "based" on. I would do a search on the Net but I figure I'm just gonna get tons of crap about the movie(s). Anyone know about the factual "massacre" in Texas?
 
 
spidervirus
17:32 / 17.10.03
i'm pretty sure that the movie was loosely based on serial killer ed gein, who lived in plainfield wisconsin. sick little puppy... made furniture out of his victims bodies. here's a link: http://www.crimelibrary.com/gein/geinmain.htm
silence of the lambs and psycho were also based on his case.
 
 
CameronStewart
18:26 / 17.10.03

Yeah, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre's "based on a true story" tag line isn't really all that true - it was just a little something to throw in to make the film that much more disturbing (the Coen Brothers pulled a similar stunt with Fargo, falsely claiming it was a true story).

As mentioned, Ed Gein is the basis for some of TCM - he flayed his victims and made clothing out of the skin, and his house was full of weird furniture made from bones. The rest of the movie is fiction.
 
 
gridley
19:52 / 17.10.03
As a side note, Ed Gein was also the inspiration for Psycho.
 
 
pasthair
23:52 / 17.10.03
Ed Gein has been the inspiration for hundreds of horror movies, including "Ed Gein"!
 
 
D Terminator XXXIII
11:47 / 13.03.04
(the Coen Brothers pulled a similar stunt with Fargo, falsely claiming it was a true story).

Which just goes to show the power of movies. An Asian woman - dimwitted, one might suppose - went in search of the loot that "Buscemi hid", and died as a result of severe subjection to frost.

The remade TCM was surprisingly nasty for a Hollywood movie, which might not be saying much, and ultimately isn't when compared to the original.

The fact that it was made for a handful of coins, a dozen or so Yankee millions, most likely influenced how far the filmmakers were willing to go, and compared to other so-called Horror movies of late, they went convincingly far. The macabre suicide within the van, the sociopathic cop taunting some of the kids in a sadistic vein, the senseless and sudden deaths, plus the terrifyingly unstoppable Leatherface. But what didn't work easily undid the horrific achievements. The beginning of the movie, a greiny, B&W documentary-style descend into (man-made) Hell was irritatingly predictable once the sequence resumes at the end of the movie ("Oh no, Leatherface's still about - ensuring the prerequisite demands of a sequel!"). The twisted, perverse, inbred family was not a patch on the creepy, bloodsucking Grandpa of the original; I mean honestly, a fat woman isn't necessarily worthy of an entry to the annals of the greatest horror movie characters, now is it? If that were so, Shallow Hal would be the candidate here. And the beautiful lighting, with a very Se7en sequence showing Leatherface's collection of organs and whatnot, had me thinking that if he were to make a career change, his startlingly innovative decorating sense would probably make him one of the most feted figures in the fashion industry; while Biel's breats were the natural center in whatever sequence she was supposed to perform in. But the travesty here, is the needless humanization of Leatherface: "Oh look, he's just a poor (white) man's Michael Jackson, who was cruelly picked on at school, therefore it isn't so strange that he became a twisted, psychopathic serial killer!" The original worked so much better exactly because he was an inexplicable force of nature that defied any easy categorization.

And the scare sequences, no matter how well orchestrated they are, fail to live up to the genuinely unexpected scares of the original; in fact, I almost had two heart attacks last night, when the woman in the fridge jumped out and when Leatherface dispatched the wheelchair bound brother.

So, a shout out to the original, then. Long may it live.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:43 / 13.03.04
The "Fargo fortune" story is a little more complicated than that, Dark Son. Takako Konishi's death was probably suicide by overdose, rather than exposure--and her problems went far beyond simply being dim and suggestible.

Of course, your take on the story is the one quickly becoming the definitive / urban legend version. Which is in itself germane to the discussion of how "true stories" change in the telling, shifting and settling until they reach some sort of poetic angle of repose.
 
 
eddie thirteen
16:26 / 13.03.04
My migraine (cause unknown -- I woke up with it, but I wasn't drinking, I swear -- advice highly desired) prohibits me from saying too much, but I love the original TCM, and liked the remake way more than I imagined I would.

Yes, the "humanization" of Leatherface is lame (though not as bad as I feared it would get when he found the engagement ring and I had a horrible vision of the saw-wielding maniac tearfully and incomprehensibly attempting to propose to Jessica Biel); worse still is that Leatherface did indeed have a motivation in the original -- he and his family simply saw the protagonists as food, which is about as bleak and dehumanizing premise for a horror film as anything I've ever heard of. Impersonal dehumanization is replaced by targeted sadism here, which undermines the original premise a bit, but is pretty fucking disturbing (and dehumanizing) in its own right, though the shift in premise has the strange effect of making R. Lee Ermey scarier than Leatherface.

Nothing in the remake quite lives up to the promise of the van suicide, where the director best channels David Fincher (as opposed to the rest of the film, where he's just making a very good Fincher pastiche...it's funny Dark Son mentions Seven, because I remember thinking when I saw the remake that Leatherface seemed to be the original occupant of the Paper Street House from Fight Club), but...I dunno, that scene alone kinda makes up for a lot, in my view. Got a kick out of the "Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" sticker on the van, too.
 
 
macrophage
11:34 / 18.03.04
As far as it goes it was Ed Gein who was an inspiration for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, good for its time. Like The Exorcist at the time it rocked the casbah. Sadly, I saw the original again a few years ago and it just didn't seem like it was when I was post-puberty, I think some horror films or mostly all films can act like that. I have a figure of Leatherface that sits nicely on my living-room shelf. The first time I saw it I experienced my first ever seance. Like goading each other to goto the Video Shop (pre-nasties) to obvously sneak some mad fucked up horror or some crazed porn film. Stuff like that imprints. I was especially fond of the zombie films from Italy but I dunno what the remake of Dawn of The Dead will turn out like. Seen the trailer for it but I can never get into remakes always seem like a bad copy. Has anyone noticed the glyph that seems to have blended itself into the scenes - on the van and the house? There was for a while bad rip offs of Chainsaw Massacre like Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers with all your 80s scream queens that pretty much sold mags like Fangoria to your spotty gore score fiend. Gore films just aint the same anymore the sheer shock value replaces itself with uncontrollable laughter!
 
  
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