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Grant Morrison's Obscure Work

 
  

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pachinko droog
17:09 / 16.10.03
Now that the complete Animal Man series is out in tpb, I just wanted some input on a few of GM's titles that seem to have languished in obscurity:

What's the deal with Zenith? I thought that vol.1 was supposed to be re-released in Aug. but have heard nothing thus far. Also, how did it pan out as a series? I know it originally appeared in 2000AD, so I assume the pacing is a bit different than his usual work.

What other series did he work on in 2000AD that should be reprinted?

Is Aztek going to see the light of day as a trade?

What about the issues of Swamp Thing and Spawn that he worked on? Any good?

Still keeping my fingers crossed about a reprint of Kill Your Boyfriend...What did folks think of it? Worth getting if it comes out again? What about FF1234? Sebastian O?

How was JLA/WildCATs? Good, bad, or indifferent?

And finally, is the rest of Doom Patrol going to be collected into trades (not to mention Flex Mentallo)? Did they iron out the legal problems? Just wondering.

Thanks for your thoughts in advance, and if I missed any of the hard to find obscure titles, please mention it.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:29 / 16.10.03
JLA/WILDCATS was, as I recall, a load of crap. Maybe one good line or bit in it, maybe two at most. I'm a huge GM fan but I remember reading this in the store and thinking "I will not pay money for this, this pretty much sucks."
 
 
Mystery Gypt
18:12 / 16.10.03
the swamp thing stuff -- there was only like 3 or 4 issues -- was pretty cool, a nice morrison-chanelling-PKD concept.
 
 
bigsunnydavros
18:19 / 16.10.03
I'm about to be a bit scary and geeky here, so watch out.

I asked about older/more obscure Grant Morrison comics a while ago, and received a fair bit of helpful feedback.

Not that that thread answers most of your questions – I just thought it might be of some interest to you.

Zenith phase #1 was indeed supposed to be reprinted in August, but I believe there are legal difficulties (can't remember the specifics here) that have held this up somewhat.

In my opinion Zenith is well worth your time - I found that the constraint of having such a small amount of pages to work with at a time seemed to keep Morrison focussed, though I believe that some people disagree with this in regards to the third and fourth phases of the series, where things start to go pretty crazy.

Anyway - I'm very, very fond of this series as a whole, and I highly recommend it.

The first two phases are pretty straightforward - very moody and stylish, with what would become several of Morrison's key themes and concerns appearing in various forms throughout.

World War Two heroes, evil Lovecraftian beings attempting to break through into our dimension, superheroes who were pop stars and Tory MP's, a bizarre Richard Branson riff etc - it's a good laugh. Very 80's and very British, but in a charming way.

The third phase sees Morrison turn things up to eleven, with a lot of bizarre pop-culture sampling coming in as the was wages across multiple dimensions. It's my favourite part of the series, to be honest with you. Really great OTT fun from start to finish.

Phase four...well, I myself like it a lot. It's not as good as the previous three phases were, but it's very entertaining nonetheless. I won't get into plot details, as it's something you really don't want spoiled for you, but if you read the first three series then you should have a pretty good idea of whether or not you want to read this one or not.

All of Zenith is graced with fantastic art from Steve Yeowell. It's suitably simple and dynamic, and I'm particularly in love with how it looks in black and white (the first three phases were all entirely printed this way, of course). There's something about Yeowell's work that really benefits from the starkness of this approach, though it does still look excellent in colour in Phase four.

Are you from the UK? If you are, then you can probably track this down fairly cheaply in old issues of 2000AD. Most places seem to have bucket-loads of the stuff, and I believe that Morrison's website has a list of what issues these stories ran in.

The previous printings of the collected editions seem to turn up on E-bay quite regularly as well.

Of Morrison's other 2000AD work I've only ever read Big Dave, which was written with Mark Millar and is... alright. It's pretty funny stuff about an English super-yobbo, but it's not really something that I'd recommend tracking down unless you're a completist. I don't really think it's reprint worthy, but then again, maybe that's just me.

The Swamp Thing issues he wrote (again, with Mark Millar) weren't anything special, but they were fun enough - it's a Swamp Thing story with some typical Grant Morrison themes thrown in, basically. I do recomend the bulk of Mark Millar's run on the title, by the way. There's a promise there that has very rarely been developed in his more recent work - good vertigo style horror.

I've never read the isue of Spawn that Grant Morrison wrote, but several friends of mine have, and they've all told me to stay well away from it. They're probably right.

I don't think there are any plans to trade Aztek, but I've read most of it and while I'm oddly taken with... something about the basic idea, you're not really missing much if you don't read it.

There were recent rumours about Doom Patrol being reprinted in its entirity, but I don't think there have been any concrete abbouncements about this.

Both Doom Patrol and Flex Mentallo are definitely among Morrison's finest work - I won't go on about either of them here, because if I did then I would probably end up writing a frightening amount, but needless to say, these are great, great comics, and I'd definitely recommend that you track both series down if you can.

Doom Patrol has always seemed pretty easy to get a hold of around my way, but Flex tends to take a little bit more effort.

FF1234 has been traded and is good, angsty fun. Like Morrison taking soapier side of the FF and butting up against some of his stock themes - I think it works nicely in this case, and while the pace gets a bit rushed towards the end, it holds together pretty well.

JLA/Wildcats was crap, yes. Don't bother with it.

Kill Your Boyfriend is another one of my favourite Grant Morrison comics. It's a black humoured kitchen sink drama that is both invigorating and satiric at once - I love it. Philip Bond's artwork is absolutely perfect as well - really simple and energetic and POP. Don't know how easy it is to find, though...

Have you ever read St Swithen's Day?

It's pretty amazing as well. Yet another favourite of mine, to be honest with you. A teenage boy plans to assassinate Margaret Thatcher in 80's Britain. Like Kill Your Boyfriend, it's short, very witty, and a perfect encapsulation of a mood.

Oni reprinted it a year or two ago, and it's another one of those comics that's pretty easy to find, I think, if you look about for it a bit.
 
 
PatrickMM
18:27 / 16.10.03
What's the deal with Zenith? I thought that vol.1 was supposed to be re-released in Aug. but have heard nothing thus far. Also, how did it pan out as a series? I know it originally appeared in 2000AD, so I assume the pacing is a bit different than his usual work.

I haven't read it, but apparently there was a rights dispute over the Volume I trade, and as a result, they are all printed up, but are currently in a warehouse somewhere, waiting for the rights dispute to clear. At least, that's what Rich Johnston has to say.



Is Aztek going to see the light of day as a trade?

I've heard on the DC boards that it's a project some of the trade editors would like to get in print. But that by no means indicates that it's in the works, so don't hold your breath.

What about the issues of Swamp Thing and Spawn that he worked on? Any good?

I think at least some of his Spawn is collected, and it's supposedly pretty weak. I have the Swamp Thing singles, haven't read them yet.

Still keeping my fingers crossed about a reprint of Kill Your Boyfriend...What did folks think of it? Worth getting if it comes out agin? What about FF1234? Sebastian O?

FF:1234 is out in trade, it came out last year. Great series, defenitely worth picking up. I've heard that Kill Your Boyfriend is still available from Diamond. If it is, buy it right now. It's phenomenal, one of my favorite Grant works. Sebastian O is supposedly going to get a trade somewhere down the line, but I'm not particularly a fan.

>And finally, is the rest of Doom Patrol going to be collected into trades (not to mention Flex Mentallo)? Did they iron out the legal problems? Just wondering.

Supposedly, Doom Patrol is cleared legally, and DC is going to start putting it back in print, beginning with a reprint of the first trade. However, if you've been picking up Animal Man in trades, you'll probably know that we won't see the complete DP in trades until 2007, or so.

As for Flex, there's a lot of conflicting reports, if you can find it cheap in singles, buy it.
 
 
bencher
19:25 / 16.10.03
Anyone know if the 'Steed and Mrs Peel' miniseries by Morrison and Ian Gibson was ever collected? I have issue #1 and #2, but can't find issue #3.

Found the covers here: http://theavengers.tv/comics/comics/acme.htm

Also, and I'm sorry for bringing up another question, but for Doom Patrol is the tpb Crawling From the Wreckage worth picking up - wasn't a few pages missing?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
19:42 / 16.10.03
Really & Truly. You'll find it in the 'Summer Offensive' issues of 2000AD, along with the first series of Big Dave (and some truly terrible Morrison/Millar-penned Dredd stories, where they showed just how little they understood about why that strip had ever worked in the first place).

But anyway, Really & Truly. Along with Dare, it's the one thing Morrison's ever written that I've loved without complaint. Most people will probably disagree and claim that it's throwaway nonsense, but that's the point. That's why it's so good - reading it never feels like a chore, it's totally disposable dayglo MDMA Sherbet Dib nonsense. It's bright and breezy and - unlike every piece of 'serious art' he's ever attempted - it's always a joy. And the Hughes art is beaut.
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
19:52 / 16.10.03
I liked the Millar/Morrison Dredd quite a lot.

Millar's Manic 5 in the same run was great, and John Smith and Paul Pert did a great strip too.
 
 
PatrickMM
20:05 / 16.10.03
I haven't read it, but yes, Crawling from the Wreckage is missing a couple pages. Also, anyone know if Grant's run on Flash is going to be reprinted, or if it's worth looking at.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:23 / 16.10.03
HOLY SHIT!! I forgot about DARE, Morrison's ultra-cool Dan Dare revamp!! It was a 4-issue miniseries, published by some small 80s company, beautifully drawn by Rian Hughes (who designed the INVISIBLES logo and drew one page of the penultimate issue, as I recall). I remember loving this book so much when I first discovered Morrison (this was about midway through his DOOM PATROL). I remember DARE was hard to find - I think I got the last 3 issues but couldn't find the first one. But it mystified my 11th grade brain and I was fascinated with it. WILL THEY EVER DO A TRADE OF THIS BOOK? Who owns the rights? I love this book so much I may have to email Kristan about it....

His FLASH run with Mark Millar was great. I doubt those'll be reprinted in a trade, but you never know. DC is on the outs with Millar these days, apparently, but their boy Morrison is back & exclusive. I recently talked to a DC sales rep at a comic store in NYC and told him lots of GM fans want KILL YOUR BOYFRIEND and DC ONE MILLION reprinted (ok, so it's only me who wants the DC ONE MILLION trade reprinted, I had to lie a little to get what I wanted). The prevailing wisdom is that now that GM is exclusive and hotter than ever in the comics world, DC might do a lot of trades of all his DC stuff through the years.

STEED & MS. PEEL was pretty good, as I recall, but I don't recall it being wonderful. I have those issues somewhere in my parent's basement amidst legions of comic boxes. I don't know if there was ever a reprint/trade paperback. What company published that, anyway? The art was cool though and I remember it being fun but not amazing.
 
 
FinderWolf
20:26 / 16.10.03
Also, CRAWLING FROM THE WRECKAGE is still great and worth getting - if memory serves, it's only missing like 2 pages that lead into the next big storyline. Someone here on the Lith has a link to scans of the missing pages in both this paperback and the one or two deleted pages from THE INVISIBLES - this guy's site is great, I can't remember what it is or what his name is.

He also scanned all Morrison's ZOIDS strips (or has a link to all the scans, at least) and the entire NEW ADVENTURES OF HITLER, a terrific short story drawn by the very talented artist of the first issues of INVISIBLES, whose name is currently escaping me (Steve something?). NEW ADV. OF HITLER is definitely worth a read. Maybe do a search for New Adventures of Hitler here in the comics section and the thread will come up?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
20:51 / 16.10.03
There was a really nice Dare TPB put out by Xpresso books in 1991. ISBN 1-85386-211-8 if you want to try hunting for it. Otherwise you're looking for the seven issues of Fleetway's Revolver and #56 of Crisis.
 
 
The Falcon
20:59 / 16.10.03
Fortunately, HunterWolf, I have it in my favourites: Fish1000 Comics

Nice chap.
 
 
bigsunnydavros
21:40 / 16.10.03
HunterWolf said:

"NEW ADVENTURES OF HITLER, a terrific short story drawn by the very talented artist of the first issues of INVISIBLES, whose name is currently escaping me (Steve something?).

That's Steve Yeowell you're thinking of there dude - the same very talented artist who drew all of Zenith.

New Adventures of Hitler is probably my favourite coloured Yeowell comic - that washy, dingy, psychedelia it's swamped in is perfect for the surreal mentalism of the story.

You know, I just plain forgot about the Morrison/Millar Flash run... will have to pick it up at some point - how many issues did they do?
 
 
Murray Hamhandler
00:18 / 17.10.03
I believe that the Morrison/Millar Flash was a full year's run, but it was just Millar on the last three issues or so.
 
 
The Falcon
00:33 / 17.10.03
It's quite sweet, and features a wee Sonic the Hedgehog tribute.
 
 
A
02:31 / 17.10.03
I thought JLA/Wildcats was good, stupid fun for the whole family.
 
 
Krug
02:59 / 17.10.03
FF1234 is beautifully drawn by Jae Lee and even though I've read very few FF stories, Morrison writes them better than they've ever been I'm sure. Gets the feel perfect.
It's somewhat similar to Arkham Asylum I'd say and almost as good.
Bear in mind that I'm a huge fan of Arkhan Asylum.

It's so much better than his X-Men or JLA or Flash.

Which reminds me...
I heard that his other Batman story Gothic was twaddle from more than one person. What's the consensus on Barbelith?
 
 
bencher
04:10 / 17.10.03

Steed and Mrs Peel was printed by Eclipse & Acme comics, I think.

Actually picked up Crawling From the Wreckage part 1 and 2 today(yup, could still find them), and will pick up the rest if it goes well. This has probably been covered, but is the rest of Doom Patrol being collected?
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
05:56 / 17.10.03
'Dare' is wonderful, I read it several years ago when I didn't know who Morrison was, and in fact it was only when someone mentioned it here that I realised it was him. He captures the characters wonderfully.

'St. Swithins Day' is a bit crap to be honest. It's a man in his mid-to-late-twenties at this point trying to write a 'serious' story for skinny white boys who don't want to read The Sandman or touch anyone's tits with their claws. It's also, if memory serves, an indie comic, so comics fairs are probably your only chance of getting hold of it.
 
 
_Boboss
07:51 / 17.10.03
bible john

ha! you'd all forgotten that hadn't yer?

quasi sinclair with moody art and no plot. luvvit
 
 
Dan Fish - @Fish1k
08:40 / 17.10.03
Glad you like my site guys,

Morrison also did a couple of 'Action Force' stories (That's 'GI Joe' to everyone else), one which featured Storm Shadow(?) being trained by Shang-Chi, master of Kung Fu.

The Batman:Gothic story was OK, not great, as long as you don't try and shoehorn the continuity into all the other batman stories.

There was also some stuff in A1, but I haven't read these.
 
 
sleazenation
09:07 / 17.10.03
He also did a stormshadow story where storm shadow goes to 'nam on a mission of vengence...
 
 
Sax
09:13 / 17.10.03
He did a couple of Hellblazer issues as well, about a small village that stopped worrying and learned to love The Bomb. It was quite good, but a blatant rip-off of (sorry, homage to) an old UK TV series or play, the name of which I can't remember now.
 
 
Sax
09:17 / 17.10.03
Ah, issue 25 "Early Warning" and issue 26, indeed called "How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb", with art by David Lloyd.

And I think the TV show was called "Pender's Fen" or something similar, though Google can't help.
 
 
Harhoo
10:23 / 17.10.03
I brought Dare from the Fantagraphics website not that long ago; unfortunately, looking at it, it seems they've sold out of #1. #2-#4 are still available for $1.25 each 'though.

I'd also add a small humble voice for JLA/WildCATS which, while hardly Animal Man, is certainly worth a couple of quid if you like his work on JLA or X-Men.

Batman: Gothic is a bit disappointing. The sort of book where the introduction makes it soiund proper exciting, and then you get a dull-ish generic story.

Incidentally: Doom Force is still pretty easy to get hold of, and most reviews say it's pretty funny (along the lines of 'The Beard Hunter' I suppose).

His issues of Spawn are pretty irredeemable. I got the trades from a baragin bookshop at a pound each and still regretted the purchase.

Sebastian O is disposable fun that's worth picking up in a cheap back issue bin.

The one thing I would like is a TPB of the Black Zoid saga from Spider-man and the Zoids. Especially if the paperboy could deliver it through the letterbox while me and my brother sprint for the door to try and get hold if it first. Hmmm. Perhaps all childhood comic book memories shouldn't be shared.
 
 
_Boboss
10:25 / 17.10.03
ooh yeah A1#3 house of hearts desire art by dom regan first use of the word barbelith

weird war tales#3 from about four years age, five pages of toys and lush quitely

2000ad prog 2000 zzzzzzzenith.com a pisstake-wrapup of all that went before, 5 pages of glorious yeowell doing the eighties

but have you got millar's zenith story? [it's rubbish, don't worry] or the coloured pre phase three zenith story with z's origin w. art by redondo or someone?

three or four issues of vampirella memorable for a crimeboss called don fattoni and cleavages

i can't help but think i'm missing something though what a wanker
 
 
Malio
10:28 / 17.10.03
Penda's Fen - TV play by David Rudkin.
 
 
Krug
10:57 / 17.10.03
Our Lady: You have got to be fucking joking chum!

St. Swithin's Day is easily is his best work. Way more effective than, dare I say, Catcher in the Rye even.

Hellblazer: Ripoff it might be but the art chores were art/colours by David Lloyd. And that's the real reason to get a hold of it.
 
 
SavageFistsOfFengshui
11:15 / 17.10.03
Morrison's story in Hellblazer #26 was actually called “How I learned to love the bomb” (from a Television Personalities single, not Doctor Strangelove).
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
11:28 / 17.10.03
Crivens, I just remembered: Dad's got all of Crisis and at least Revolver #1, the magazine Dare started off in (it was wrapped up in Crisis). Both were (sadly) shortlived but lovely spin-offs of 2000ad.

Morrison also wrote a pretty crap strip for 2000ad called Janus: Psi, a run on Dredd (Inferno, lots of carnage and some lovely Carlos Wotshisface art, I'd recommend it) and ummmmm some other stuff. Which I'll remember the second I hit "post".
 
 
I'm Rick Jones, bitch
11:38 / 17.10.03
2000ad profile here.
 
 
FinderWolf
14:26 / 17.10.03
I thought GOTHIC was OK - funny, I was just wondering if DC would re-issue that paperback of this arc. It's during Morrison's DOOM PATROL period - I just remember it's decent but not excellent, with some creepy visuals like some candle dude or villain with lots of candles much like the candle-headed creepies in DOOM PATROL. Some themes from DOOM PATROL are also in evidence in this story arc. Decent art by Klaus Janson. It's funny that no one ever really talks about this arc. It was like the 2nd or 3rd story arc in the LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT book.

I normally know Steve Yeowell's name off the top of my head but I blanked. Thanks for refreshing me - and you really have DARE on your site?? Or were you talking about New Adv. of Hitler (which I've read on your site and loved)?
 
 
pachinko droog
17:22 / 17.10.03
I have St. Swithins Day, really enjoyed it. Brought back a lot of that teen angst we all know and love (but hated at the time). Didn't this one almost get GM in trouble because of the assassination bit?

Batman Gothic I kind of liked too. Not as good as Arkham Asylum, but has some great elements in it. Just the idea of Batman studying sacred geometry made me want to buy it.

Really enjoyed his work with Millar on The Flash. Reminded me of why I got into comics as a kid in the first place.

Crawling From the Wreckage was definitely worth buying. Can't go wrong with his work on Doom Patrol. (If I could find any of the single issues I'd buy them, but all they seem to have in the bins around here are the crappy Rachel Pollack ones. Feh.)

Mystery Play was interesting. Not quite what I expected, but worth reading a few times. I like it as a change of pace from his usual output.

BTW, does anyone remember which Doctor Who issues he did way back when?
 
 
Krug
18:04 / 17.10.03
Mystery Play is terrific. Unsatisfying but terrific. Jon J Muth's art is marvelous.
 
  

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